Can I put it this side? Yeah. They're trusting me to do this myself is their number one mistake.
Joining us now is investigative journalist Jeremy Korbel. Good to see you. Korbel is an investigative journalist who helped obtain and release the DOD footage
of UFOs and made contact with this DOD whistleblower as far back as 14 months ago.
The front lines of UFO disclosure. It is scary if that's true, Joe. I think you guys are. Investigative filmmaker Jeremy Korbel got a shout out during the hearing for obtaining
UAP videos and releasing them to the public. The images obtained by Jeremy Korbel, the Pentagon confirming the images are being reviewed
by a task force. The man who's been pushing for better transparency, Mr. Jeremy Korbel.
It's everywhere as of late. And now the government started and I'm like, what's going on? Today exists.
I want to thank my buddy Jeremy Korbel for documents and access to some whistleblowers.
The footage is incredible. The United States government has gathered a great deal of information about UAPs over many decades. Biologics came with some of these recoveries. Yeah.
Were they, I guess, human or non-human biologics? Non-human. And that was the assessment of people with direct knowledge on the program I talked to that are currently still in the program.
Jeremy Korbel played a big role in bringing these questions to the public. If he looks familiar, that's because he was sitting behind Fravor, Grush and Graves today in that testimony. Thanks for having me, man.
It's the duty of journalism to investigate the unexplained, not explain the uninvestigated.
Slowly, the U.S. government has acknowledged that they're real. Korbel released these videos. What else is weird is Jeremy Korbel said a bunch of people are going to start saying
there's a mothership coming to earth and don't believe him. Remember he was saying that? Somehow he does have inside context, but if he says too much, he puts his whole life in danger. We've talked to you so many times over the years.
You're one of the world's leading experts in UAPs and UFOs. He's the most unconventional figure in this space, covered in tattoos, a former martial artist, a former artist, and yet he's somehow the one in the know, standing at the center
of it all. I've been holding a secret for about 11 years, you know, absolute proof beyond any reasonable doubt. UFOs are real. They're threatening the life of a journalist.
Let me ask you, why, why, wait, why wait for 11 years? Why didn't you do this that year?
I needed to verify it myself. George and I will be briefing eight Congress people on video. I'm telling you this over the phone, so any intelligence agency that has a FISA on my phone, which my lawyer is sure they do, knows that I am having that meeting and now a lot of people know about it.
Alright, here's the deal. Your journalistic credentials mean jack shit, to put it mildly, alright?
If you look in the 70s and 80s with the CIA, they used to have reporters on their payroll.
They don't respect anybody. If you do something that pisses them off, they're not going to come after you, not only
you, they're going to come after your family. And you've seen that happen? Yes. It's one of those things where if you become a liability, if you really have stuff that is that sensitive that you cannot release and you're relying on your connection as a journalist, they're going to throw you to the dogs. I've been having a very surreal series of days, yeah. Hey, thanks so much man, I appreciate it. Yeah, of course.
The daily reality of how often do I get contacted? Government whistleblowers or just the average person that says, what the fuck is that I just saw? You know, launch a Starlink or something like that, a rocket. Non-stop.
I don't think there was any fuckery, but I need you to confirm. So this is how it came? How do you know what to go after? I see original Polaroid. Holy shit.
And where is this from? It's from Los Alamos National Laboratory. Your dad died, right? He did. He passed away about a month ago. I'm sorry to hear that. My dad died too. What was your dad's position and why do we find this interesting?
He was in charge of all computer and cyber security for the entire laboratory. So I sent you some official documents from the lab that talk about meetings they had
about atmospheric anomalies. There's also some information in there about Russian sightings. I recognize some of the names because I know a lot of these motherfuckers.
I had no idea what my father did. He never discussed his job. Why are you nervous? Just tell me for legit why you're nervous. I can tell you're nervous.
I don't belong in this world, but here I am. The UFO world? Yeah. I don't belong in this world. I'm like the least qualified person on planet Earth, but I thank you for your trust because the one thing I am is I am worthy of your trust. Yeah, I don't know.
I'm going to relax though because I feel really uptight right now. It's a crazy fucking week.
He was the most curious kid ever. Then I heard that he was listening to George Knapp.
Hello and welcome to On the Record. About nine months ago, we invited former state senate candidate John Lear to appear on this program to talk not about politics, but about UFOs.
George Knapp, he's a journalist who broke the story about Area 51 several years ago. Thank you both for being here. That just weaponized his curiosity. Well, I did say, Jeremy, maybe you need to find another career. I said that to him and he's going, yeah, right. He knows way too much.
I'm afraid he's going to die. They're going to put a, I mean, there is a hit out on him. That's what I was told. That he's not going to be able to protect himself. Am I an investigative journalist? I'm a husband. I'm a daddy to my doggies. Really, my business is apartments and properties. This is, you know, the glorious life of a UFO hunter. There's the maintenance and the renting. This is how we make our money. So it's like the UFO thing for me is out of passion and because I love it.
These are solvable problems compared to the UFO thing. UFO thing, unimaginably difficult. I don't know what to say about it. I don't know what to say. How does somebody get so deep into the UFO subject?
To really understand the full picture, I'm going to need to start where it all began. I'm going to tell you the deep end.
You need to go see Sensei Jeremy Corbell. Martial athletics, since I was nine years old, you know,
first time I was able to punch somebody in the face and not get in trouble for it. I was in severe pains, what you'd call groin pains, but I had my hips x-rayed.
They're thinking about coming and cutting out the bursa. I mean, all sorts of crazy stuff.
I was also very inflexible because of this. I have ADD and a decoding disability. It makes it very difficult sometimes for me to focus and concentrate,
or at least it really used to. I'm highly dyslexic. I have one of the highest levels of dyslexia.
Needless to say, groin pain is a problem. I'm one of the highest levels of dyslexia. Needless to say, growing up was a challenge. But what I realized is that obstacles are opportunities. I could see where I was going, all these schools, more money than I could ever spend realistically as a young kid. So I had everything, and I was just curious. Is it possible there's anything else for me, my spirit, like what I'm to do? And God damn, did life answer. So I was in Nepal. I was like, where's the easiest place to keep moving, to keep going?
I was like, okay, I'm going to go to India. When I started getting sick, I thought I had bronchitis or something,
you know, take antibiotics for my lung problem. I remember calling my mom and dad and telling them,
like, something isn't right, like, I'm coming home. He sort of blows things off, like, oh, it's no problem, I'm not stressed,
you know, I can handle it. But as a mom... I had contracted valley fever, but it had become so corrosive in my body,
untreated, because I was overseas. It had fucked up my kidneys, my liver, my heart, my lungs,
but it was also in my bloodstream. Being a martial athlete, that was my entire identity. When your identity is so wrapped up into something, and then you don't have that anymore, you can't do that anymore, you feel like you die. I started taking apart computers, putting them back together again,
just something I could do mentally. Honoring actress Sharon Tate was on display in Culver City.
She was a symbol of freedom and she was a symbol of love. I don't even know how that happened.
Total accidental artist. My whole career was because of an illness, you know, and I was having testing done, like, every three days for blood,
so they always took it and it looked really beautiful. It was red, you know, and so then they gave me, I said, well, that's beautiful, I need that for my work, and so then they gave me, I have loads of it. I got a camera for my wedding, I started practicing on my honeymoon, like, how to use it. He did those black and whites out there,
and that's when I started learning about where his brain was going. The first person that I ever pointed a camera at and was like, oh, fuck, it's like a Rubik's Cube,
you know, I got to get this person talking. It was really hard, was John Lear. For more than five years since we've been hosting these programs, no guest has inspired such a widespread and enduring audience response as has John Lear, son of the famed aviation pioneer
and a world-class pilot in his own right. I was approached by a government theoretical physicist employed by the government who works on the saucers up at Groom Lake.
He has seen the aliens, he is tired of the cover-up. John Lear, people know about him because his father was the inventor of the Learjet, 8-track stereo.
This is a guy that had some credibility in some ways publicly. He was the person that you'd want to be able to interview
and talk with about this phenomenon. I am so hungry and curious to know what I don't know.
I mean, it's like a sickness, bro. It's like, it's a sickness, you know, like my curiosity.
It's a sickness. The government has retrieved between 10 and 15 factual flying saucers, three of which have been in perfect condition,
one of which they tried to fly. They have between 30 and 50 alien bodies in cryogenic storage. It's not about UFOs to me, you know. You know, what got me interested?
Well, I always point to what I heard Bob Lazar on the radio. Well, there's several, actually nine flying saucers, flying disks that are out there of extraterrestrial origin.
I was a 13-year-old idiot kid, but that really sparked me. But, you know, I put that down.
I didn't devote my life to it from there. Bob Lazar is the reason why you know about Area 51 and you know about UFOs in popular culture.
The original, like, I guess, whistleblower about the UFO thing. He says he was hired to work at an area called S4,
which is a few miles south of Groom Lake. At S4, he says, are flying saucers and other working examples of technology that is seemingly beyond human capabilities. The live interview with the shadowy dentist drew international attention. His real name is Robert Lazar. The choice of Dennis was an inside joke.
He says that's the name of his superior at Groom Lake. It wasn't a joke to Dennis. Why did I go for John? Probably because, you know, in this part of my brain,
I knew that the Bob Lazar story was somehow filtered through Lear. That's my driveway. That's Bob.
I remember trying to get a hold of Lear for over a year. Hi, this is John Lear. I'm not at home right now,
but please leave a message and I'll get right back to you. Thanks. But I remember at one point, I just cold called his phone and he picked up. I couldn't believe it. And then how open he was with me. So I just I saw this like window, you know, there he is. And I said, hey, man, I want to learn about UFOs. Come on over, Jeremy.
The hell, you know, who is this crazy person? He doesn't know me. And I didn't even really tell him I was a filmmaker
because I wasn't a filmmaker at the time. So I said, cool. Yeah. Yeah, I want to bring, you know, a camera
and kind of document some of what you're saying. And I think he was just hungry for attention.
Come on over. Yeah. Come to Vegas, Las Vegas, Nevada. Come on over. I'm like, OK.
Hey, John, I'm out at the gate. I'm out at the gate. And then, of course, when I got there,
he wouldn't say shit to me. So like at the time, he wasn't supposed to smoke and drink
and all that stuff. He always, man, he made me get like go get him cigars and sneak them in the house,
all the stuff his wife didn't want him to have. Jeremy, sneak me in a five pack of Philly Titans.
You can get them at Walgreens. Merrill, he's cut me off. Just sneak them in the house. And I wasn't getting shit from him
unless I brought the cigars, you know. Being 13 years old, I was so influenced by this thought that there's a prolific, intelligent life, technologically advanced everywhere. That's how I heard of John Lear.
I have no fucking idea where this is going. But my journey now is to tell the real story,
the real message. It's the start of a new journey in my life. He was so passionate about it.
I was happy for him. I didn't think he would make any money at having that as a career. I hope it answers questions,
and I hope it gives me a million others. His toilet would be broken, and it's like ghost flushing, and I can hear the sound in my footage, so I go and fix the ghost flush in the toilet because I've done it a billion times because of my history of, you know,
maintenance and property and all this stuff. And once he realized that I could do that, game over, man. You know, so I'm like the handyman at his house.
And then computers, forget about it. Usually when I click that, it just comes over the whole thing,
and this just has the contacts. John Lear wouldn't tell me shit about UFOs, but once he started, it was years, man, just telling me everything.
The moon was constructed in Jupiter about 20 billion years ago, and it was towed to Earth sometime
between that 20 billion years and now. There's been many, many civilizations on the Earth. One of the most advanced civilizations
is buried under the Sahara Desert. They're erased, and then they grow again. They're erased. This is where you get all these stories
about the civilizations like Atlantis and Lemurus. Anyway, the moon is a place for the guards to be sure that we don't escape or don't get away
while we're on Earth maturing our souls. This is John Lear from the Lear family,
and the guy had this personal story that's so wild. Where did he end up? Who's imprisoning us?
Those guys. The bad aliens, they do interfere with our lives. As a matter of fact,
they're pretty much in control of Earth right now. There was a table of scientists there, and... Oh, yum. Oh, thanks, darling. I had to make it a little healthier for the kids because I put chicken in it. Is it, do you need anything to drink, honey? What?
Anything to drink, you guys? No, this is fantastic, but I could have a glass of water. Well, John Lear was a real crazy conspiracy guy,
but he was, Jeremy was fascinated with him. With John, so much of what was true was how did this guy come to believe these things that are so extraordinary or wild, right? Yeah, the guy I was talking to here
helped build the pyramids and... Helped build the pyramids back in the day? Yeah.
How did he do that? The aliens are God's demons or something. Huh. I was just kind of documenting this human being
that had these ideas that were so far out there. We have landed on the moon before.
You said six times, but just not with people? No, we never landed on the moon. Did I say that? As far as Dr. Mitchell and whether he believes or not
that he went to the moon... Liftoff. We have liftoff with Apollo 14. Three minutes past the hour.
Oh, my God. The time is 60 seconds later. This is very tough because Dr. Mitchell is a hero. He participated in that program. He's going to be very irritated to know
that he's been the victim of mind control. Well, he didn't introduce me to Dr. Mitchell.
He more or less challenged me. Oh, oh, oh, oh, UCF Knights! Oh, oh, oh, oh, UCF Knights!
Oh, oh, oh, oh, UCF Knights! Ladies and gentlemen, please direct your attention to the staff and the dean of the Burnett Honors College,
Dr. Alvin Wang. He's joined by Captain Edgar Mitchell. Captain Mitchell, an Apollo 14 astronaut and pilot,
is the sixth person to ever walk on the moon. Why do you think that there's people that, no matter how much proof you give them,
they don't want to believe that you walked on the moon? Bob's friend, a guy named John, John Lear,
you might have heard of him before. He's the son of the guy that invented the Lear jet. I know, I know. Okay, you know, he's one of those people that just doesn't buy NASA's story about the moon landings.
I was not aware that that was Lear's attitude, frankly. And I'm sorry to hear that.
I knew his father quite well. And that makes no sense to me. That's not why I was there. I was there to talk to Dr. Edgar Mitchell
because he was born in Roswell, New Mexico. People talked with him without a filter. Everybody involved with the Roswell alleged UFO crash, they're going to, of course,
talk to an astronaut who walked on the moon. I grew up near Roswell, New Mexico. I was on my way off to college when the so-called Roswell incident took place in 1947.
He knows everybody from when he was born and raised there. Several of the people tucked over my sleeve
and said, can we talk about it? They said, well, the UFO idea. Well, it turns out these people
were all descendants of what I call old-timers. For example, the descendants of the undertaker who had provided small coffins out to the military
to help carry the bodies of the deceased ETs. That if you're an astronaut and you start knocking on doors of government
and start talking to people, they're going to trust you. So I knew that he had insight into the UFO thing
that he had not been saying publicly. I knew he did, but I wanted to find out how much of that is belief and how much of that is very specifically the knowledge that he had that other people didn't. So that's why I was there. I did not give a fuck about the moon.
I did take this to the Pentagon a few years later and we did get an interview with the intelligence officer
of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. This is not just government. It's not just military. It appears to be a cabal. President Eisenhower on his retirement
warned against the military-industrial complex. So what we have here likely is a cabal of the military-industrial complex worldwide that has been able to control this thing
and hold it for their own purposes. There's no question. The evidence is very strong. They've been here and are here. Six men to walk on the moon, right? Yeah, that's a pretty cool friend to have, man. He knew some people.
He could connect me with people. That was really cool. I learned a lot from him, not just from him, but some of the people he led me to speak with. My name's John Alexander. I spent 30-some years in the military. I went from private through colonel.
My second career was Los Alamos National Laboratory. I worked in aerospace. While in the military, I created an ad hoc group on UFOs and studied the subject intentionally. It was top secret.
And what you know is above top secret clearances. We had people from all of the services, the intelligence community, and aerospace industry.
What we found was not at all what we anticipated. What does that mean? Every agency was interested.
Every agency knew the stories. Everybody thought somebody else was doing it. UFOs are real, and I mean by that, very hard craft, the transit, or physical reality as we know it. Whatever this is, it is far more complex than we ever anticipated. We're not even asking the right questions yet.
Start a sentence with, John Lear is. Oh, John Lear is a very interesting and colorful character. Unfortunately, we violently disagree
on notions of reality. Certainly, I firmly believe that we did put him on the moon. You guys seem to have, you know, some sort of respect for one another despite the fact that, you know,
you think he's totally crazy. Yeah, well, let's understand. I mean, his history with Mike Air America,
his pilot, we both were in Southeast Asia. Certainly respect those kind of adventures.
The guy really had quite an exotic past. Do you think he would intentionally lead me the wrong way just for his own kind of pleasure?
I have no idea. I mean, you're asking about his motive. I have no idea or way to discern that.
Free booze. Why did they think they went to the moon? Because they got on this big-ass rocket
and shot it up in the air. You don't think they could have been faked? No. Do you ever ask yourself, like,
are you just nuts? Am I just nuts? Yeah, do you ever ask yourself sometimes, am I just nuts? No. I know this is all real. That's where I'm at. And if I'm not too bad, it's a great ride, you know? It was a constant barrage.
And to this day, a lot of it was bullshit. It doesn't mean he didn't believe it.
You know, he believed it. If you've seen it. So how do you know? About seven years ago, I was on AboveTopSecret.com and a guy started to post, whose name was Sleeper, talking about being in the army and having been picked up by aliens
and taken all over the universe. He's talking about this guy, this guy that's like a UFO Jesus,
I mean, some weird guy. And like you said, he met the dude online, the dude wrote some books.
He was brought here to Earth in 1952. The main problem is to get out of here, this prison planet.
And according to Sleeper, I'm done. When he says, little angels like John get passed right on through without judgment,
that's pretty strong. Did you see the part yet where I fucking made them meet face to face?
I guess, you know, proceeding with John, I was wondering if, at your convenience, if you have interest, you know, to meet him, because as far as for his ideas, as I've said, you've played such a pivotal role
in his understanding. He has such an admiration for you. It seems like it goes both ways. Any month, any time, you know, just for a couple days, a weekend, you know, I could, you know, essentially bring you out to Vegas.
Do you want to do it over? You know, I think that was actually really good. It was natural.
I'm into UFO phenomena. I came here in a ship, and I learned a few things. I learned a few things about Jesus,
Buddha, Mohammed, and other beings. And I've explained a lot of the things in my books.
Let me get a drink. Okay, yeah. Well, I just want you to know that this is the first time I'm in front of a camera,
so I have no experience of being in front of a camera. John Lear happened to want to link up with me,
because, you know, we're old friends. We haven't met. Okay, when you're ready, come on in.
The infamous Lou. Come on over here. How's it going? Just like your picture. Oh, well, that's good. But little angels like John get passed right on through without judgment.
So just hold on to that ticket. Is it still valid? Oh, sure. You know, I brought this picture because I wanted to show you
Is it still valid? Oh, sure. You know, I brought the icon, the person that you can defer everything to and just believe, and I just felt like it was a lie.
Do you see each other again? Yeah. To this day, I don't understand it. Mostly what I learned from John Lear
is what not to do. I would see people come from all around the world. How are you?
Nice to meet you. Okay. What's your first name? Jeremy. Spice Outlet Programs, and there was one that was
a nighttime Spice Outlet Program. Thanks for the whiskey. It's damn good. Okay, yeah.
You guys mind if I film? I don't, I'm a nameless person. So are you. Are you okay? People would come to just get it off their chest, whether it was they were crazy or they were not,
it was true or not true. He was just this person that you could just talk to. And then from there, though, I started to, because my mind was open, I learned maybe from him, don't judge somebody
and push them away. Somebody was trying to take pictures of him, but the government didn't want anybody to know, but you did it anyway,
or something. It allowed me to kind of be a good listener, I think, to people that have had profound experiences they believe, sometimes they're actual, sometimes they're
a little misguided. But I think that's a core value that I learned from all that. It's an Alice in Wonderland
planet. Very few people will ever find the truth. But everybody is looking for the truth, and a lot of people think that they found the truth. But that's impossible. But that's impossible?
I was really frustrated. I was there to learn about UFOs. I was there to get information. I thought it would happen so quick.
My wife was always really supportive. She was like, when I just felt it, like I gotta go and drive to Las Vegas alone, a lot of time, money,
everything to do that. I was just starting my real estate stuff, so I was putting every penny I had to get in that car, buy the gas, get down there and first couple times, staying at a hotel or something cheap
I could find. What kept me going was also that some of what he said was verifiably true. Stuff that was so out there.
Like about the way our government was hiding the UFO truth, he would tell me stuff and provide me a document that he got somewhere and some of that
was absolute spot on. Every single person has been abducted and are being abducted. So UFO land
is destabilizing. And like I went right into the viper's pit with the destabilizing thing. George Knapp
was always this anchor. In the five years since we broke that story, a lot of nonsense has surfaced about
what goes on out there. We've heard stories about tunnels that stretch all the way to New Mexico and New York, secret underground bases run by aliens
and the military. He was an island of sanity. Yeah. 100% fucker. He was. He still is.
Kinda. I tried to get ahold of George Knapp through email and calling the news station and just asking if he would have lunch with me or talk to me so I could get some background with him and talking to you and he hasn't responded to me yet
but I won't stop. I'll keep trying to get ahold of him. Yeah, he doesn't respond
to anybody that I know. Getting to George Knapp is like trying to get to the fucking president
during an election. I mean, it's like it's the hardest thing in the world. Contacting him and contacting him because he was like an idol
and George just fooled him off. They say it's the easiest secret in the world to keep. It's leaked out many times before
and nobody believes it. But I had a new thing to say and it was, hey, you know, for like a year I've been filming with John Lear
in his home. So I was an artist at the time, right? So I was making art and I was in my drive port, like my car port, and I had this really toxic resin and it was like the phone rang for Vegas and I didn't know
who was calling. I even got resin on the phone but I was like, hello, this is Jeremy.
That's how I answered. And some dude comes on and he goes, hold for George Knapp and I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, wait, what?
And me, an unknown fucking person, George Knapp, started talking. It's like shock and awe
over Baghdad here. You sit up here on the roof or on the balcony below, you cannot believe the firepower
that is unleashed. Once they met, it was like they clicked. Cheers, thanks for having me over,
this is great. Things I went through the atomic testing archives at the Department of Energy and the reason I want to look for it is to see if we could see Area 51 on the map and sure enough,
it's on there. Now in the days when I was doing this research, Area 51, they said it didn't exist, we've never used that term, I don't know what you're talking about, that was the official
position of the Air Force. It's especially satisfying to go catch them in an absolute lie. So suddenly, there's a whole shelf of books about a base that no one
had ever heard of. There are hundreds of news articles, documentaries, TV dramas, a thousand product lines,
along with assorted businesses. The Bob Lazar music video. He helped me really just clear the table
and start over. Boxes, volumes, the stuff that I've got on Area 51 and John Lear, Bob Lazar. Did you ever think that you would be so deep with information into these fields
and mysteries? Did you ever think this was going to be a part of your life? No, this was not part
of my game plan at all. I think Bob is concerned about John's credibility because it reflects
on his own. And if John Lear, who is a proponent of the Bob Lazar story, is whacked out talking about crazy stuff, it reflects badly
on Bob's story. So yeah, I think he has a certain concern for John, both because of their friendship and because of what it means
to his own credibility. I think I have obtained testimony from a couple of dozen people
who worked out there. I believe that those craft were out there. That they looked like what we would call
flying saucers. I believe that they came from somewhere else because we weren't building them. We were taking them apart to figure out
how they worked. Two dozen people who've worked out there have told me that over the years. They said it was a very compartmentalized,
restricted program. Only the people with a very strict need to know were read into the program. I know there was a lot of gamesmanship that's been played and mind games with the public and lies that have been told. Take it or leave it. I'm just telling you what the story was
as he explained it to us. I think that's what that is. If you want it, you can take a look. Sure, I mean, whatever you got on the digitizer, I'll bring you back
a digi-copy. Many UFO sightings occur in broad daylight. Many involve multiple witnesses. The witnesses include pilots and policemen,
even a president. People who are trained to be observant and whose judgment is to stay back to the dawn
of recorded history. Can you give an overview of the kinds of things that were in these reports? They had photographs
of aliens. There were autopsy reports. What do they look like? The typical gray. I hate to say that like anyone knows
what a typical gray is. It's a creature probably 3 1⁄2 to 4 feet tall. I saw the carcass, well, it was obviously
a dead alien. The carcass cut up and all dark inside like it was in an iron base. It seemed to be
one large organ. In the late 40s, that's when they started to because of its potential magnitude was given
executive power. Did you ever know a man named Bob Lazar? Here's his picture. What about this? If you want to know, then sit down
and talk about it. Okay, that's what we're doing right now. No. Well, the camera's not rolling.
I understand. But you see, we have a limited amount of time. If you want to know, then sit down
and talk about it. Okay, that's what we're doing right now. No. Well, I want to understand this.
You need several hours. If I ask you on camera if you know Bob Lazar, can you just say no?
I will sit silent. Can you tell me who he is? Yeah, I can tell you who he is. He's a scientist out in Reno, Nevada that worked at a place
called Area 51. That's Sector 4 within Area 51. And he says that you've been there and that he knows you and that you helped him get a job
out at Area 51 Sector 4. You met him at Los Alamos on June 28, 1982 at a seminar you were giving at Los Alamos,
a lecture on SDI. And he says you know about all the things I'm talking about and that you most likely wouldn't talk to me about them because he says they exist, but people in general
don't want them. Look, I don't know Bob Lazar. All this sounds fine. I probably met him. I might have been, I might have said to somebody I met him and I liked him after I met him
and if I liked him. But I don't remember. And why should I say that on camera? I mean, look, you are trying to force
that I simply won't answer. I'm not asking you to say what you believe to be a fact. I'm asking you to say what you read in a report that is distributed at what may be the most top secret
facility in the world. It's so far out. Your objection has been noted. What does it say? That we're containers. That's how supposedly the aliens look at us.
That we are nothing but containers. Containers of? Containers. Maybe containers of souls. You can come up with whatever theory you want, but we're containers and that's how we're mentioned
in the documents. That religion was specifically created so we had some rules and regulations for the sole purpose of not damaging
the container. They shot at you? Somebody shot? Maybe as a warning perhaps? As a good warning, I had my back tire shot out on my car as I was getting
on the freeway. You saw the guy? Yeah. Well, I didn't see the guy, per se. I couldn't identify him.
You saw the car? Yeah. But getting this on tape is an insurance. You've fallen into the rabbit hole and there is no more.
Do you want to grab your phone or? No. It's a fact. Do you think, do you think we've tried a couple times
to call Bob? Do you think we could try that again or next time we should really try to get him on the phone so you can be like, are you coming
to my birthday, Bob? So one day, John said, Bob's in town. My good friend, Bob Lazar, he's in town.
He's going to come visit me. And I'm like, okay, cool. I'm there filming because I've been there all the fucking time.
Bob came in and of course, I get to meet Bob which is great because all I want to fucking know
is he a liar. And if I knew that, I could put the cameras away and fucking go home
and I'm fucking done. I am done with George Knapp. I'm done with John Lear. I'm done with UFOs.
It's fucking done. I don't fucking care. It was weird at the time that I thought that was the most important
question to answer. And some of the things John comes up with, I mean, are pretty far off of normal, sensible, you know, the normal sensible
range of possibilities. Like the soul sucker, where in the world did that come from? You know, right, the greys were controlling the soul sucker on the moon and when you die, it sucks up your soul and it gets reprocessed
unless the greys steal it. I mean, come on, John. What the fuck? And there was a spirited debate
about Sleeper. It was hilarious. This book is a work of fiction. Names, characters, places, organizations, cities, private and public, government institutions, millionaires, are used
in a fabricated manner. What else is he gonna say? What else is he gonna say? Why would he lie in his own book? He has to say, oh, by the way, all of us. Why would he,
why would he disclaim that? I was like, hey, Bob, look. I don't know, I don't know if this is captured on camera or not, but like, I don't know if you're
telling the truth or not. There's some things he didn't get into putting here. Come on, John. Three fucking minutes of you talking for yourself
would make a huge difference. So, you might have asked, asked you a couple questions about... Alien spacecraft at Area 51,
reverse engineering. Fucking simple. Just wanna know. Yeah, I know there are alien craft here
from another planet. I, now, I saw other ones, but I was inside one. I know it was not
made on Earth. I know it was made with materials that we cannot fabricate, we cannot duplicate,
and we've never been able to. I know it uses a power source that's so advanced that we could only dream of something along those lines, and the energy density
on it is phenomenal. I saw the truth that day, but I didn't trust it yet. It took a lot more for me to trust it.
Yeah. I was going bonkers on UFOs. I was, like, trying everything I could. What the fuck is going on with UFOs, non-humans engaging humanity? I was capturing the world and letting it tell me
what is possible. Are you aware of a facility or facilities on or near Nellis Range designated S4, past, present, or future?
The best I can put together is that there is another intelligence, probably a lot of other intelligences that interact with us
in a variety of ways. They can enter our reality and mess with us and leave, and there's not much we can do about it.
Here is a close-up photo. This was on the bottom, not of a disk. A wedge-shaped craft. I give you a piece, and you would guard this
with your life. I will guard it with my life. And not destroy it. No. I did not. All right. Thank you for letting me
in your lab today. We have two samples of the layered material. I'd like to count the layers.
Are these artifacts from a downed craft of any kind? I would say no. Any way mysterious
to you at this moment? No. Somebody is going to some real bother to represent misrepresent essentially what anybody would consider
industrial waste. I'm going to beg and see old man it's like, you know, kind of not doing so well and I got to wrap
some stuff up with him. But it's coming to a point where it's really making him immobile. I got it, I got it.
What was John's decline like? I mean, fuck, he was a friend, first of all, so it fucking sucked.
Yeah. See if we can nail it this time. There you go. Yeah. They won't give me what is prescribed because nobody has that much. Yeah, that's great. Thank you. Alright. It was hard to see him suffer and not have proper care.
There was something mystical about John, like the way he viewed the world for all his flaws
and all the pain and all the suffering and all. And again, at the end of his life, I mean, he, I was probably the lowest on his list
of people that he liked. Right. I just want to know what it was that pissed you off so much.
I've never seen you pissed. Six times you said something like, and it was exactly on the last time, but I don't
believe what John Lear says anyway. I don't believe most of what he says anyway. That's okay with me. I just didn't know you didn't believe it.
Well, I think that's a little bit inaccurate and I think we'll have to look at it differently. But I've said, you know, with each like time we've done a radio interview that 90% of what you say, I can't prove for example. Let's talk about something else.
I don't feel like being contentious today. Okay. Okay. Well, it's good to see you. What is it you want people to know today? There ain't going to be no disclosure today, tomorrow, in the future, ever.
So the government is never going to tell people the truth about aliens? They don't know the truth and that's mainly why they'll never tell because they don't
even know what's going on. Even at the worst times, I like to believe there was still love between us as human beings and I can't shake that, that there was.
Even when he really, I mean I have voice message, he just chews me out, fucking hates me. But I just always felt like, maybe I'm delusional, but I felt like there was always this respect
and love. I love him, you know, I always will. There came a point where Bob was sick and fucking tired of other people talking about him. And ultimately that's what made him come in front of the camera with me.
It all had to do with investigating how this craft worked. I do not have the luxury of disbelief.
Bob Lazar is telling you, as it happened, how he experienced it. Take that for whatever value you take that at, coming from my mouth, but that is the fact. And wrap your head around that. I probably was the biggest skeptic.
I thought a lot of it was just BS, I didn't believe Bob Lazar. So are these the two guys, you wrote this down for me in Pioneertown, that these were the guys? Hey, hey, why do we even have this sheet of paper in existence here? You told me to write it down, put it in my safe, and I did.
Is it the fear, were they, like, messed with, or something? Yeah. Oh. Yeah, directly. Okay. And were they messed with because the idea was that if they stood up, it made you seem like a legit person? Yeah. Really? Yeah. That is one of the most fucked part of the stories that I've heard.
You will not leave before I get a hold of one of the people associated with the schools. Hey Jeremy, it's Bob Lazar.
Listen, I have something to ask you, something's really come up that's important.
What's the fuel for this reactor? The fuel is even more bizarre. It's an extremely heavy element. On a periodic chart it would be 115. So here's the deal. Did you ever get a piece of element 115 out of Los Alamos? Yeah, I did.
Did you get just one, or multiple? No, I had one. Do they know you've hidden it? I don't know.
I don't know. I don't know how good we were at keeping that quiet. That didn't convince me, but what's come down in the last, I don't know, six months or so, it's like, yeah, there's something going on here that's bigger than I thought. It doesn't matter if you believe Bob. It's either true, or it's not true, the whole thing, the whole shebang.
When I got tipped off about the Nimitz encounters, I reached out to a bunch of people.
They all kind of pointed to you. Everybody referred to you as this credible individual who's a straight shooter, and you're going to have no chance at hell of talking with him. You got to talk pilot.
When the incident happened, I had been flying for about 16 years, about 3,600 hours. I went to Top Gun, so I am one of those guys.
There's four of us that actually visually saw this thing for over five minutes. UFOs are real, non-human intelligence from somewhere else, not made by mankind, or it's
a big fucking lie. My name is David Fravor. I'm a retired commander in the United States Navy. In 2004, I was a commanding officer of Strike Fighter Squadron 41, the world-famous Black
Aces. All four of us, because we were in F-18Fs, so we had pilots and WIZO in the back seat, looked down a small, solid white tic-tac object with a longitudinal axis pointing north-south
and moving very abruptly over the water like a ping-pong ball. The controller told us that these objects had been observed for over two weeks, coming down from over 80,000 feet, rapidly descending to 20,000 feet, hanging out for hours, and
then going straight back up, for those who don't realize, above 80,000 feet of space.
We haven't really thought about it. You'd have to see something that you trusted, on video or in person, to really wrap your head around it. And if you do, it might change the way you see the world. And all of that leads us to today. I'm being quite vulnerable. This whole time, I have not gone public.
The only thing that I have done is ensure if I die, this story comes out. And here's the kicker, Jeremy, is I don't trust the government so much that I don't
even want to go into witness protection. I don't even want to fucking tell anybody, one, because I don't know if I can even legally
tell anybody. And two, I don't trust them to not fuck me up more. They've ruined my life. They've ruined my friend's life.
They're in process of fucking with everybody else, and we're just all fine with it. No big deal.
Like I, this whole thing sucks, man, it sucks. I want to know what is happening with my life. Like I deserve to know that, and I can't keep living like this.
Like I got married a month before I went down there. My entire marriage has been wrapped up with this, and my wife left her job over this shit
because I didn't want them going after her. I'm tracking everything, so at least just be knowledgeable that somebody is tracking
everything for you. I also will make a promise to you that if I ever get pertinent information to your personal
case or well-being, I will immediately transmit that to you 100%, no questions asked, as a friend, okay?
I appreciate that. I have one more favor to ask of you. Anything. If anything happens to me, please make sure, hold on, what the fuck, please make sure my wife is taken care of. Okay. This fucking sucks. This fucking sucks.
This really sucks. The agreement is that you know everything? Yeah. Okay, so you need to know this. Okay. So we'll talk tomorrow. Okay, baby. Okay, love you, Mama. I love you. I'll forget what you tell me anyway, but I'll know it for one time. Everybody wants to catch me in pain on camera. Don't want to go there. All right, let's just start over.
It's such a funny story, man, like, you know, I like, sorry, it's a funny story. Simple question.
I've been holding a secret for about 11 years. There is a reason why I chose to believe you.
If you lied about everything, the problem is you were right. So that's weird. UFOs are real. Did you see something? Do you have something? Right. Okay, so let me be very careful with how I say it. So yes, obviously, military filmed footage of UFOs beyond any question.
It's not a video of an alien. It's not a video of one craft. It's more than that. Hours upon hours of military filmed unambiguous UAP. The reason why I'm not telling you right now that I have those videos.
If I said I have them, right, then I would be immediately federally rated within seconds. There also exists seven years of recorded conversations of consequence, thousands of hours of people, witnesses, firsthand intelligence officers, threats I have received, coercion
entrapment. And I have been working with in person, Congress, Senate, Senate intelligence.
Are you sure you're making the right decision on this? Well, I mean, I thought about this too, that, you know, you know, maybe there's a good reason
they're keeping this secret and that everyone's agreed to keep it secret. And, you know, what I've always, you know, pushed for is just at least make it known that there is some other intelligence and some craft or whatever, something else going
on. And they've kind of admitted that. And at that point, that's where I wanted to stop. They have admitted it, but they are threatening the life of a journalist.
And when I mean they, I don't mean just the United States. But you keep pushing further. I do, Bob. I don't. I don't think that's a good idea. For who? I don't think it's a good idea for you because this is no longer about me. I am protecting whistleblowers with firsthand knowledge like yourself.
I have to make a really hard decision because I've tried every other way to do it. And here's the question I have for you as somebody with critical and important information
about UFOs, that they are real and I can prove a lot more than that. Should I expose corruption and crime relating to the withholding of this truth from the
American public and about the nature of UAPs if it doesn't harm national security? Yes.
Say it again. Yes. People will go to jail for this, meaning people within agencies, very powerful people will
go to jail. Should I do it? Yes. And the reason I say yes is like nothing is above the law, dude.
These threats, I think if I'm being honest, it means that everything I'm doing is not in vain. There is a private corporation and that corporation wants to protect its assets, meaning visual,
intellectual. Oh, I have a delivery of atropine coming to me tomorrow and it is a remedy to a nerve
agent because this threat was so specific. The fact I know is either a testament to the excellent sources I have or people are overcautious or I'm getting fucking played. It is so alarming to me what has happened to some of the whistleblowers.
It is not my story to tell, but I am fucking following it. Out of two people, there was one allegedly willing to testify to their direct firsthand involvement in reverse engineering a UFO for a private corporation within and under an intelligence agency for the United States government, actively on the legacy program,
and that person is dead. It is of high concern to us that their autopsy and investigation be done from a third party outside intelligence agency.
I mean, there's co-workers and friends of mine that worked on that program for years.
They were not hazed. They were not tricked. They literally worked on the material and the specimens and all that, and that was kind
of common knowledge. People mysteriously vanished from the program, never to be seen again.
Everybody's supposed to have due process regardless of accusations of treason or what have you.
There's a couple core secrets the United States has where they are willing to commit those deeds.
That's not the America I thought I grew up in. That's not the America I thought I was serving. You know, even though I was a little disillusioned when I was in Afghanistan and I saw what we were doing there, but, you know, I still believed in, you know, America doing the right thing
at the end of the day. I don't know what UFOs are. I don't know what they represent to humanity. Ask your priest. Ask a scientist. I'm a tattooed, bearded, accidental journalist that has a great mentor. I'm not qualified to answer your question. Abby! Abby! Stay. Stay. Yeah. Hi, baby. I love you. I love you. You want a beer? Yes.
They're not going to come after you, not only you, they're going to come after your family. Oh, my God. Am I having a good day, Michael? It's a hard moment. I know. It's just really, I'm trying to keep it together. I'm scared to death.
You know, there have been threats on his life. My lady's doing great. My pups are doing great.
Everybody's doing great. I'm not. So let's talk about it. I'm petrified. Don't be. Don't be. I can't just turn it off. It's not a switch. I mean, the CIA and the FBI, it seems like there isn't a lot of communication. And the CIA is more interested in protecting government secrets. The FBI is saying, yeah, well, we can protect you from the CIA or whatever. There are also these independent contractors that work for the CIA. Things have been, different times in my life, very clear and defined.
And at this point in my life, it feels like the fucking twilight zone, except everything is real. If you really have stuff that is that sensitive that you cannot release and you're relying on your connection as a journalist,
they're going to throw you to the dogs. He's been told by a bunch of officials in the government that he needs to get a conceal and carry, that he has ordered this antidote for neurotoxins.
They told him don't go into any parking garages because that's another favorite place. Don't be alone. Don't don't drive alone. Don't be alone. Baby, I love you. I don't know what to do. I don't know. Do not show this man.
No, I don't want to. I'm I'm sick. I'm not feeling good. And there's a lot about to happen. So your question was. I'm sad for people, man. People fucking cry to me, dude. Take care of my wife.
So I could prove UFOs are real. Probably go to jail for it, but I could prove it.
I am just trying to report in America. I should not be threatened by our intelligence agencies.
I should not be threatened by corporations and I should not be threatened by individuals.
Problem is that I have received threats from all of the above direct threats, bro.
So if I got a problem, can you imagine people that like sign shit that says your life will be done?
Yeah, I don't know, man. I have never worked for the government. And I have signed no NDAs.
This UFO thing. It's wild fucking West for me. I don't regret ever opening my fucking mouth.
I don't regret opening my fucking mouth. I don't regret opening my fucking mouth. I don't regret ever opening my fucking mouth. Here's the deal, man.
If I tell you my secret, you would know why I knew Bob Lazar was telling the truth.
You would then know why I decided it was important to verify that. To bullet test it.
You would know what motivated me. You would know who motivated me. Do you want me to just tell you?
Do you want to know the secret? I didn't know if Bob Lazar was telling the truth or not.
And so, over the course of ten years, I asked somebody over and over and over again. Not about Lazar, just about the topic.
And over and over and over, that person told me nothing to see here and move on.
And this man is the most respected, revered and highest ranking military individual I know. Very carefully, gingerly.
What is your opinion on crap that have no sound, that are a mile wide, that are picked up on radar and sit there? Are those ours? No, those are not ours. Somebody who would know.
Okay, so maybe it started like that. I don't know if I should tell this story, Michael. I don't think people should hear this, man.
You realize there's a thousand people who could tell you what's up. You realize this is not on me.
I'm going to tell you part of it. There's somebody I really respect. Somebody in position to know.
Somebody that loves me as a human being at that time. Loves me as a human being. And I said, I need to know if this is true. I'm about to spend all of my effort, all of it, on this. This one question, is Lazar telling the truth or not?
Lazar's story is, by any standards, fantastic. He says he's telling it in order to protect himself. Bob, this is John. How you doing?
I was going to embed myself into his life. And you've been there. You know that place.
Am I wasting my time? Because you've told me for years not to waste my time on certain things.
Dude goes into a wood shop. Spends like three fucking hours angry at some wood. Comes out.
Why wouldn't he be telling the truth? That's the start of it. Why wouldn't he be telling the truth?
Oh, you're talking about somebody now. Okay. Have you been there? I've flown out of there. Okay. Is there a place exactly like that? Why wouldn't it be? I went angry. Conflicted, inside, personally. Should I hunt this with all of my might? End of the day, let's just say, I dedicated my life to it. And not blindly. And that is what started me. To try to find that truth. And I found it. Unambiguously, I found it. When I get up high on the food chain of people that ran the legacy UFO program.
And I push them, and I push them, and I push them. And they won't break their fucking oath.
I push them to the point where something's gonna break. Every single fucking time. They'll say something to me like, Don't kick a sleeping dog. I guess I gotta put my money where my mouth is now, you know? Make a choice. I don't know what to do, man. Is it worth it? To who? Jeremy is so honest and so protective of everybody he talks to. He doesn't talk to anybody about what he has, except George.
So, where are we? I actually do get nervous just thinking about it. You've seen it all too. We've never seen that kind of thing out in the world.
It's overwhelming, the amount of footage that we've obtained. Somebody from the New York Times said,
You guys are in a pickle. Because at this point, it is a national security issue.
There could be repercussions for journalists. I think where we're at is, I don't know what to do. I can't even count the number of death threats I've had over 40 years.
I laugh at them when I get them now. I figure, A, if they're really gonna try to kill you,
they're not gonna call you up and warn you. I think anybody that has had that intense depth of experience I was having would have felt and maybe acted the way that I did,
which is very self-protection mode, my wife and me. She was getting death threats.
Your wife and your mom and all that stuff, that's over the edge. Fuck them for that stuff. The first 10 years I was doing this,
I'm going through the same stuff that you're going through now. Bouncing off the walls, up and down, peaks and valleys,
scared shitless, worried about what comes next. And then I just decided to let it go. Are they gonna kill me? I'm now at an age where I said,
If you're gonna kill me, fuck you. What's the difference? I've lived a long time.
I remember the first time I realized they were tapping my phones. I was astonished, stunned.
How the hell could this happen? In a newsroom, in a TV station in Las Vegas, that somebody's listening to my phone and then visits people and intimidates them and tells them to shut the hell up. How could that happen in America? There's no damn way they had a warrant for those taps.
They just did it to see who else was coming in to give us information. And like I said, people outside of our world on this topic would not believe that's real. But it is real. You can't let them get to you.
You cannot let them get to you because they'll wear you down. And it's just my gesture that I've shared with you before when things are going really bad and there's been periods of real bad ups and downs. Is that the best you got? Bring it. What do you got? It's the biggest question in human history other than maybe what happens after we die. Is there something that goes on?
It's the biggest. Are we alone in the universe? Is there another intelligence out there?
If so, has it visited? That's big stuff. That's world-changing stuff. If we just put out everything that we trust that has ever come to us,
it would represent one of the largest leaks in American history. The journalist's ethical imperative is get the story, get it right, and tell it no matter who it helps or who it hurts.
And I've always tried to live up to that. And you and I have had these conversations before
about how far we should go. The reality of it is while we can try to live up to the journalist's ethical imperative, the third part of tell it no matter who it helps or who it hurts
is not realistic with this topic. Because, you know, as we've talked before, and I've shared with you from the beginning, you've got to sometimes protect sources even from themselves.
We were going to bring our best evidence ever. That's what they asked for. They wanted to bring us into a skiff so we could show them what we would play under protection at Congress,
the best visual evidence we have of UAP. And I thought, great, we're under protection.
This is to the American public. This is the way it should be. There we go. Let's do it. Our lawyer suggested we don't go in that skiff because the second we do,
we can no longer be journalists and report on it. It could instantaneously be classified or something like that so that we can't report on it. The public's always telling us,
I don't want to see grainy images from some thermal sensor. I want to see the good stuff. It exists. It's out there. I don't think they're ever going to
willingly release that stuff to the public. So if it's going to come out, it's going to have to come out through people like us. There's a gigantic segment of the population
that still is not tuned into it, not paying attention. They might see a news piece here or there on a program,
but they're living their lives. They're raising their families, paying the bills. They're worried about what's happening to our country,
what comes next. Does it help to drop everything all at once? I think that's dangerous because there's the unknowns of how we could be damaging national security or something like that. What's something we can put out that will be safe for national security? Well, there's one particular image. I know this is not a mistake. I know it's the right thing.
I'm just a little bit terrified to begin that process. Welcome to life. We're alive.
It's exciting. It's fun. Yeah, it is. It is. It is, okay. Fear and fun. I guess it's time we do our best, slow and steady, and put out what we feel is appropriate and good.
So we actually just made a decision right there. We're going to do it, so we have to be careful.
Oh, fuck. Fuck. The first one will be interesting because even though the information and the data and the visuals are real, it could just have been a setup
to be able to stop our reporting moving forward. We'll know because we'll get pressure,
and it probably will not be public. You know, why would you start releasing this
even if you get away initially? Somebody's not going to like it, and they're concerned they're just not going to sit back and let you guys slowly keep releasing information if they don't want it out there.
It's a dangerous game you're playing. Yeah, I don't have a choice. I am doing this because George Knapp told me
the first rule of journalism. You protect sources or witnesses with your life even if they don't protect themselves, and I took that to heart, so now I do not have a choice.
You're right on the edge, Jeremy. I love you. I don't want to see anything happen to you. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you.
What's the purpose, Dave? Why are we doing this? Well, I mean, I've already crossed the Rubicon. You know, I'm not going to stop until the mission's done,
or I'm non-mission capable, as we say. But these people want to push back at me like that?
Well, great, I'm not intimidated. They know what they have to do to shut me up, so bring it. I think I'm like you, and, you know,
it's like fucking bring it or get the fuck out the way. There's a whole part of reality that the federal government, its private partners, and other nations around the world and participation thereof for the last several decades, and I'm of the generation that has seen our parents
and older siblings and friends go to war for what. And I think it's time for a new era to begin, especially because, you know, we're not alone, and this universe is teeming with life, and that life is already here, and, you know, we can openly interact with it.
♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ There's a little bit of a closer look. This is a freeze frame. This is with some boosted contrast of what appears to be a disk-shaped object captured back in 2020, possibly somewhere over Afghanistan, Pakistan,
the border there. This was filmed by some sort of asset, DoD asset and forward-looking infrared shot
from above looking down. Jeremy Korbel, he joins us on set. Jeremy, good to see you. Welcome back.
Good to see you, man. All right, so getting into this, navigating through the clouds, like, I hate to even bring this up, but that sounds a lot like Jordan Peele wrote it in NOPE, right? That's what we saw a little bit in NOPE. What's going on here?
What are we looking at? Yeah, so for a couple years of investigating this footage, right, making sure it's authentic, where it came from, what we're seeing here that's different
than ever before. You know that I've obtained and released with George Knapp thermal videos of UAP. Now, our government has admitted
some of what we've put out. They've admitted they're UAP. I'll tell you this. I'm not saying it.
That was in the original footage. It says UAP navigating through clouds. They called it a disk. I'm not even calling it a disk,
but what you're seeing is first shape. I have never seen in all UFO history when it comes out of military
an actual circular form. It was amazing to me. The second is the movement. When you see it make an abrupt turn from your left to your right
when you're watching it. And the third thing that really was astonishing to me, this is in thermal. There is no heat signature
of traditional propulsion. Is there a chance that this is just a, I don't know, a balloon?
Our military doesn't think so. Our military called it a disk. Our intelligence community
has been at this since 2020. Now, look, when assets like this get out to journalists like me and George, you know, we're not experts at this, but we know and can report
that our military calls this UAP. Like every piece of footage we've put out. You have become the conduit
for so many of these videos here. This is the tip of the iceberg. What you're seeing here, George Knapp and I are committed to reporting on our best evidence. No, that means that you've got more.
That means that there's other stuff. I know you well enough to. I hope that the world gets to see
more, better, diverse footage. I am not in absolute control of how the world perceives things, but as a journalist, I am going to fight
to get as much out as humanly possible. Got it. And real quick, what's the update on Capitol Hill?
There will be more hearings. If they have courage, there will be more hearings. And I have three firsthand witnesses that they can put up to testify. We're looking forward to witnesses. We're looking forward to more evidence. Jeremy Corbell, so good to see you.
Fascinating topic, isn't it? Yeah, yeah. Always a fascinating topic. I've come to realize that everything I did, every single thing I did, prepared me for exactly where we are right now, today. I would like to see him have a more normal life.
Is there a part of you that wishes Jeremy had chosen a safer path outside of UFOs? No. I wouldn't, because for various reasons about who he is, he needs to do this.
The conversation will be different one day. I just don't know how long that takes. This nightmare coming back, I am genuinely starting to get concerned
that it is coming for me. Please make sure my wife is taken care of. My name is Dylan Portland, a former 1N1 geospatial intelligence specialist for the United States Air Force in an active duty enlisted capacity
from 2010 to 2013. I came forward out of concern for people's lives and to ensure I did everything I could to let our elected representatives know the truth about what is really happening
in the executive branch. Each day, victims of crimes committed by agencies and companies maintaining this secrecy are denied justice
is another day our Constitution is shredded. In 2023, Patriots provided this committee and the executive branch with undeniable proof of the UAP reality, and I commend your continued commitment.
It was proposed and we accepted that we would study all aspects of the phenomena,
and by the phenomena, I mean UFOs. EIA and Congress monitored the funds at all times. Was that part of OSSEP, where you go knocking on doors to see, hey, have you guys got
crash flying saucers somewhere? Yes. If it's not Russian, it's not ours, it's not Chinese.
It's somebody else. Now, you know, at that point, even OSSEP stopped. You look into UFOs,
you encounter the paranormal. You can decide to ignore it. It's not going to ignore you. We simply confirmed what people have reported over the years,
and it's occurring and it's accepted. I've been approached by CIA to be paid money to shut up. I've been approached by FBI for money to give up sources, all of which I have declined and is well documented and is with my lawyer,
who is Chuck McCullough. We also welcome the Honorable Charles McCullough, Inspector General of the Intelligence Community at the Office of the Director
of National Intelligence. Look, Jeremy, you are a journalist, but this is a very serious situation.
You're not in a skiff. You're not protected on some base somewhere. You need to be very careful.
I'm being careful as I can. It's every single piece of armament that I could put together over the last 11 years that I'm ready to present
in a very controlled and slow way. I would imagine over the next couple years if I can start with one piece of information and give people education and slowly bring people forward
without being fucked with, harmed. But I do need to be protected. My lawyer, Chuck McCullough, said for me, my biggest fear for you right now is being taken into custody for 24 hours and to not be ever the same after. And it would have to be under false charges.
So now I want to be very fucking clear with you, Bob. I have committed zero crimes that Commander David Fravor now knows. And he told me, you need to do it.
I want you to keep using the processes we talked about. Your methodologies are exceptional.
I want you to keep doing what you're doing. You need to keep vetting these people that are coming to you, right? Yeah, thank you. I will. Same process. You need to be extraordinarily careful. Keep the vetting going.
That looks like what it's made out of. It's going to be an enormous amount of interest
in what you're doing here. Yeah, there is, yeah. So you and I need to get together and have a substantive conversation about this, okay? I need to do that now.
It's really sad that the powers that be for some reason have decided that you are not allowed to know
the nature of an aspect of reality. And that has happened. That has happened. It's unfortunate. The excuse on their end, the people that are getting high up on the food chain here, their excuse about the cover-up about this, or what they tell me and George, is that you don't want to uncover this. And that is frustrating.
Because it's like they're scared of something. I'll tell you this, is that all the encounters that I hear about that I believe, like the ones from military people who are not public, things that have been documented by our government, these visitors can essentially get you to see
anything they want you to see. So that's a problem. If you look at stories, and then you look at documentation, and you look at just what people have reported, all the way back to when we're barely making boats, you bring that all the way through time,
there's a consistency. Where does this start for you? When you look up to the stars, or you wonder what that means, that every single spot of light you see is a sun, likely with orbiting planets in the Goldilocks zone,
where this starts is you have this intuition. It doesn't matter who lies to you about it. Like, do you realize, in your own personal experience,
that something's up? Maybe you've had experiences. You can't explain. Not like seeing an alien, seeing a UFO, I'm talking about, like, simple things. Feelings. Hunches. Like, it's okay not to have the answers. It's not okay to fucking hide the answers. Be vocal. Talk about it. Discuss it. That's where all this starts for everybody. Don't hide from it.
This UFO thing is just a fucking symbol, man. It's a reminder. Maybe that's all it is. Maybe it's just there to remind you. To make you guess. To make you wonder.
Maybe that's what it's about. I don't know. I don't know. But, um, stop telling yourself lies. Other people are better at it.
Life is strange. So am I. I'll be strange till the day that I die. Life is sad. So am I.
I'll be strange till the day that I die. Life is sad. Life is sad. So will you. That's all right.
We can cry if you want to. Let's drink. Here's to us. Take a cup. Go on, fill it up. But you said you really don't drink anymore. Well, do what you must.
In the end, we all turn to dust. I'll stay forever right here if you want me to. Life is strange.
Tell me why. I feel alone when I stare at the sky. I'm unworthy. So will you. Life is strange.
So I do what I do. Sing me old songs. Make me cry. I will stay till the day that I die. I'm a lost cause. So will you. Life is short. I'll do what I want to.