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Skip Atwater on Telepathic Alien Conversation Using Rubik’s Cube Metaphor

Context on Skip Atwater

F. Holmes “Skip” Atwater is a verified figure in the Stargate program — the US government’s remote viewing operation at SRI International and later at Fort Meade (1970s-1995). He served as Operations and Training Officer for the program for approximately 17 years. Post-Stargate he worked with the Monroe Institute on consciousness research. His government credentials are real; his post-government work spans the harder end of the consciousness/parapsychology space where claims become non-falsifiable.

The account (in summary)

Atwater describes being “standing behind an alien in a spacecraft” — context suggests an out-of-body experience or remote viewing session, not a physical encounter. The alien tells him “you shouldn’t be here.” Atwater asks: how do you get from here to Alpha Centauri?

The alien initially says “you wouldn’t understand.” Atwater notes that the alien is communicating telepathically (has access to his mental thoughts) and asks the alien to use concepts already in his head to explain.

The alien uses a Rubik’s cube as the metaphor:

  • Imagine the concept of a Rubik’s cube (not necessarily 6 sides)
  • On each tile, imagine a chart of the elements (an elemental chart)
  • Same on each of the other surfaces
  • Atwater is thinking of “going that way very fast for a very long time”
  • The alien says: “So what you do to get out to Alpha Centauri is you just twist the cube”

The clip ends mid-explanation. The mechanism described is consistent with a folding-of-spacetime model where elemental composition at different points in space is connected by something like a rotation rather than a translation. This is parapsychology folklore but it has a structural correspondence to wormhole / Einstein-Rosen bridge physics if you squint.

Significance

The interest is in the semantic connection to Dylan Borland’s “Project Rubik’s Cube”. Two unrelated UAP witnesses, one from the 1970s-90s Stargate era and one from the 2024-2026 whistleblower wave, both reference Rubik’s cube in a UAP-propulsion context. Either:

  1. Real common reference: a program codename derived from a recurring metaphor in alleged debriefs or briefings. Witnesses across decades reference the same metaphor because the underlying material does.
  2. Coincidence: Rubik’s cube is a common cultural reference. Two independent witnesses using it isn’t surprising.
  3. One inspired the other: Atwater’s account was public (Shawn Ryan Show, August 2025). Borland was asked about “Project Rubik’s Cube” in May 2026. Either Borland’s program codename was inspired by Atwater’s public account, or the codename existed first and Atwater’s account is post-hoc resonance.
  4. Both seeded: someone deliberately seeded the Rubik’s cube reference across multiple sources.

Without more, this is not dispositive. The Atwater account on its own is a single-source experiential claim from someone with real government parapsychology credentials but well-documented post-government drift into harder-to-falsify territory.

The Borland connection is what makes it worth tracking. If “Project Rubik’s Cube” turns out to be an actual ICIG-investigated program codename, the question of why the codename matches Atwater’s metaphor becomes genuinely interesting.

What this is and isn’t

This is: a verified Stargate veteran on a mainstream podcast describing a telepathic interaction with an alien, in which the alien used a Rubik’s cube as a propulsion metaphor.

This is not: corroborated by any other witness, anchored by physical evidence, or made under conditions (oath, classification, accountability) that would distinguish it from imaginative recollection. Atwater explicitly notes “I’m telling myself I’m silly again” in the clip.

Full transcript

[00:00] It’s hard to talk about dimensions, but [00:03] I was standing behind an alien in a [00:05] spacecraft, [00:07] just a small one, which I understand [00:12] get bigger and smaller depending upon. [00:16] At any rate, [00:19] he said, “You shouldn’t be here.” And I [00:21] said, “I know. I realize this is a [00:24] strange place, but [00:27] before I go, could I ask you a question? [00:31] And this is [00:35] really a very strong memory in me. [00:37] >> Yep. [00:38] >> No, I don’t remember what I had for [00:39] dinner last night, but this is in there. [00:44] >> I’m telling myself I’m silly again. [00:45] Dude, it’s not in there. At any rate, [00:49] um, [00:53] and he said, “Okay.” [00:55] And I said, “Um, how do you get from [00:59] here to Alpha Centuri? We can’t do that. [01:03] The only thing that we think about is I [01:06] have to go really fast for a really long [01:09] time. How is it that you can go to Alpha [01:12] Centuri without any problem?” [01:15] And essentially he said you wouldn’t [01:16] understand. [01:18] So I said [01:21] I agree that that’s a problem. However, [01:24] I know that you have access to my mental [01:27] thoughts. I mean that’s you’re not [01:30] talking to me with your mouth. You have [01:31] access to my mental thoughts and I [01:33] understand that. Can you use what [01:36] information I have in my head and try to [01:38] explain it to me? [01:40] And he said, “Well, do you know what a [01:43] Rubik’s cube is?” I said, “Oh yeah, my [01:45] son can do them in 2 minutes.” He says, [01:47] “Okay, so imagine a Rubik’s cube, but [01:51] not necessarily just the six sides. Just [01:53] imagine the concept of a Rubik’s cube.” [01:55] And I said, “Okay, [01:57] now imagine on each one of the tiles on [02:00] the Rubik’s cube [02:03] has [02:05] a chart of the elements, an elemental [02:08] chart.” [02:10] And you say, “Oh yeah, I know what that [02:12] is.” you know, I’ve had science in [02:14] school and everything. He says, “Now, on [02:16] each of the other five surfaces, there’s [02:19] also elemental charts.” [02:22] And I said, “So, okay, but what’s the [02:26] deal?” And he said, “Well, [02:29] you’re thinking about going that way [02:32] very fast for a very long time.” [02:36] What he didn’t say to me, which I’m [02:38] thinking right now, there’s no space in [02:40] time. [02:42] I’m only thinking that right now. That [02:44] wasn’t part of the explanation. [02:45] >> Uhhuh. [02:47] >> And he says, “So what you do to get out [02:49] to Alpha Centtory is you just twist the [02:51] cube.” [02:54] And I said, [02:58] “What do what do you mean?” And he said,

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