NewsNation Reality Check — Ross Coulthart Q&A: “Alien hybrids, ‘Disclosure Day’ and a secret that changed things” (31 May 2026)
- Source: NewsNation, Reality Check weekly Q&A (host Ross Coulthart with Megan Medic), YouTube, 31 May 2026 (~37 min). https://youtu.be/lKRH1F8MwTM
- Speaker: Ross Coulthart ( Coulthart ~45).
- Transcript pulled 2026-05-31 via YouTube caption API (
youtube_transcript.py). Lightly auto-formatted; a mid-roll ad (American Financing) left inline. - Why it matters: a representative sample of Coulthart’s amplification-with-hedging mode, and a node for several active claims. Notable for being relatively careful — he relays extraordinary claims but flags the disputes.
Key content:
- The Nordic-hybrid / CIA-DNA-database claim. Coulthart relays Jason Reza Jorjani’s account (on Jesse Michels’s American Alchemy, Nov 2025) that retired Stargate remote viewer Lynn Buchanan told him the CIA has backdoor access to consumer DNA databases (Ancestry, 23andMe) screening for “Nordic” alien genetic markers, with Kit (Chris) Green allegedly involved — but prominently refutes it: Dr. Paul Smith (former Army major, Stargate’s official unit historian) emailed calling the story “balderdash”; Coulthart: the claims “are disputed… I really have no idea about the veracity.” (Ties to Elizondo’s recent “human-alien hybridization” comment.)
- “Disclosure Day” (Spielberg film). Praises it; recounts the (secondhand-confirmed) Reagan/Close Encounters “everything in that film is true” White House story; takes issue with the always-benevolent NHI portrayal.
- Disputes the official “no gray aliens” line. EOP senior director Sean Chiddle publicly claimed gray-alien lore traces to a 1959 test-pilot (“Dan”) crash (swollen face, redacted suit/aircraft) — Coulthart rejects it (“hundreds, if not thousands of witnesses since 1959”).
- Trump’s cabinet ET comment (“releasing a lot of information having to do with extraterrestrial things… trending number one”) — Coulthart calls it “an astonishing admission” but cautions the war.gov/UFO releases are “not evidence of extraterrestrials.”
- Corbell/Knapp “Sleeping Dog” + the ~46 videos to Congress — defends them (“journalists get leaked stuff all the time”; praises their vetting/redaction care); endorses the redactions (protecting Predator-drone surveillance capabilities) while calling the videos “next to useless as scientific data” without the redacted telemetry.
- “Catastrophic disclosure” — warns of a possible WikiLeaks-style mass dump; reads the White House “slow trickle” as deliberately “taking the steam out of the disclosure debate.”
- Zero-point energy / market disruption — claims “legacy program” sources say reverse-engineered tech (incl. ZPE) is being suppressed by intelligence/defense + top-100 aerospace; flags Matthew Tuttle’s UFO-disclosure ETF; argues US resilience means disclosure wouldn’t “destroy the economy.”
- Primary for community-credibility-assessment (Coulthart roster entry); relevant to Buchanan (the CIA-DNA claim) and the recirculating four-species taxonomy.
[00:00:07.680] Good day and welcome back to that time [00:00:10.800] of the week reality check Q&A where you [00:00:14.080] get to grill me with your questions. And [00:00:17.520] here my interrogator Megan Medic. Good [00:00:20.880] day Megan. How are you? [00:00:22.400] >> Fantastic Ross. How about yourself? [00:00:24.880] >> Very well, thanks. Very, very well. [00:00:26.640] What’s been happening? Oh gosh. By the [00:00:28.560] way, what’s happening? Have you seen [00:00:30.720] Have you seen Have you seen what [00:00:32.960] President Trump said today about [00:00:35.120] extraterrestrials? [00:00:36.640] I’ll quote it exactly. He was in a [00:00:38.480] cabinet conference, cabinet meeting. And [00:00:40.719] with Marco Rubio on one side and Pete [00:00:43.200] Hegsth on the other and both of their [00:00:45.840] eyes were popping out of their heads as [00:00:47.520] the president said this. The president [00:00:49.680] said, “We’re releasing a lot of [00:00:52.079] information having to do with [00:00:54.960] extraterrestrial [00:00:56.800] terrestrial things and people are [00:00:59.120] totally fascinated by it.” Mr. Trump [00:01:01.199] said, President Trump said, “It’s [00:01:03.280] literally trending number one. Can you [00:01:06.159] believe it?” [00:01:08.320] Now, I don’t think we should take that [00:01:11.119] necessarily as an acceptance by by the [00:01:13.439] president that what they’ve released to [00:01:15.600] date and the war.gov website UFO site is [00:01:19.759] evidence of extraterrestrials because [00:01:23.040] frankly it isn’t. I’m sorry to [00:01:25.439] disappoint. Maybe the president was [00:01:28.000] speaking out of turn or maybe he knows [00:01:30.799] something that’s coming up. We can but [00:01:33.200] hope. But look, it is a positive sign [00:01:35.520] and it’s to be applauded that the [00:01:37.600] president has shown such initiative on [00:01:40.159] releasing and declassifying UAP files [00:01:43.520] that frankly when you look at them [00:01:45.280] there’s absolutely no reason. It’s quite [00:01:47.360] clear now there’s no reason why they [00:01:49.360] couldn’t have been released a lot [00:01:51.439] earlier than today. [00:01:53.840] Fire away, Megan. Give me some hard [00:01:55.840] questions. I’m in the mood to answer [00:01:57.759] some. [00:01:58.399] >> I love it when you’re in that mood. [00:02:00.240] Ross, let’s go to a big headline that I [00:02:02.399] need you to react to. This is coming [00:02:05.040] out. The CIA has been accused of gaining [00:02:07.360] secret access to the DNA information of [00:02:09.679] millions of people as the intelligence [00:02:11.840] agency allegedly searches for alien life [00:02:14.720] on Earth. [00:02:16.400] >> Okay, now this goes back to uh a [00:02:18.640] gentleman who we must get on the program [00:02:20.560] at some stage. um Jason Rea Georgiani uh [00:02:24.160] who is he’s been a science fiction [00:02:26.560] writer in his time but he also I think [00:02:28.640] does some profoundly fascinating [00:02:30.800] interviews on the phenomenon and he has [00:02:32.720] a wonderful grasp of history spiritual [00:02:35.440] ideas and I don’t know whether what he’s [00:02:40.000] saying is 100% accurate but I’ll I’ll [00:02:42.080] basically put it all in context. Um he [00:02:45.360] appeared on Jesse Michael’s American [00:02:47.760] Alchemy broadcast in November 2025 and [00:02:50.879] he said that a retired Army remote [00:02:53.760] viewer named Lynn Buchanan who was part [00:02:56.560] of the old Stargate psychic spying [00:02:58.879] program told him the CIA has backdoor [00:03:02.159] access to consumer DNA databases like [00:03:05.920] ancestry.com [00:03:07.599] and 23 andMe. And what they’re doing [00:03:11.120] supposedly is screening for genetic [00:03:14.239] markers, particularly for those pesky [00:03:17.360] Nordic beings, alien beings that [00:03:20.400] allegedly reside here on the planet with [00:03:22.640] us. Now, that’s one hell of a story, of [00:03:25.200] course. And um it follows hard on the [00:03:27.440] heels of a I think still quite [00:03:30.159] extraordinary comment by Lou Alzando, [00:03:32.799] the former Pentagon UAP program [00:03:35.360] investigator, who told us, oh, about a [00:03:38.640] week ago now, that were people in the [00:03:41.360] intelligence community who told him [00:03:44.080] about hybridization, human alien [00:03:48.080] hybridization. So, all of a sudden, this [00:03:50.720] is becoming a buzz subject. [00:03:53.040] Now, Nordics, if you don’t know what [00:03:54.799] they are, are tall, blonde, blue-eyed, [00:03:58.000] no, I’m not guilty, beings living [00:04:00.480] discreetly. Apparently, they love living [00:04:02.799] in in the Rockies up in Colorado. So, if [00:04:06.319] you see any strange blonde, blue-eyed [00:04:08.000] neighbors up in the Rockies, keep an eye [00:04:09.680] out. If they’re especially tall, keep an [00:04:11.840] extra special eye out. Um, now the claim [00:04:16.239] was made in the same Georgiani interview [00:04:18.320] that Kit Green, Chris Green, is heavily [00:04:21.120] involved in this alleged program. And [00:04:23.759] I’m sure Kit wouldn’t say anything about [00:04:26.720] if I approached him about this, but um [00:04:30.000] anyway, apparently the hybrids just want [00:04:32.560] to live peacefully and happily amongst [00:04:34.560] us humans. Um, Lynn Buchanan has [00:04:38.880] publicly discussed an unknown, [00:04:41.919] unidentifiable DNA category that [00:04:45.280] interests the government and he’s [00:04:48.080] avoided, he said he’s avoided consumer [00:04:50.720] DNA tests himself, but he’s never [00:04:53.440] directly confirmed the full Georgiani [00:04:56.240] story or the notion of CIA back doors. [00:04:59.600] So, this is what Jason Georgiani is [00:05:02.160] saying. He was told by Lynn Buchanan, [00:05:04.160] who has ne never said anything publicly [00:05:07.280] to back exactly what Jason’s saying. So, [00:05:11.199] by complete chance today into my inbox [00:05:13.600] came an email from Paul Smith, uh Dr. [00:05:16.720] Paul Smith, a former major in the US [00:05:19.039] Army, who was one of the principles of [00:05:22.639] the US Army’s Stargate program. And uh I [00:05:26.320] met him briefly at Contact in the [00:05:27.919] Desert. I think probably because he’d [00:05:29.759] seen these comments in the uh internet [00:05:32.800] and social media. I think he was anxious [00:05:35.280] to allay people’s concerns. Um he saw [00:05:39.120] that NewsNation had picked up the story [00:05:40.800] that Jason Georgiani is peddling that [00:05:43.039] Stargate was mining the popular DNA [00:05:45.440] databases in search of alien human [00:05:47.600] hybrids. quote, “Having been in Stargate [00:05:51.280] myself for 7 years and having been on [00:05:54.000] orders as the official unit historian, I [00:05:57.360] am comfortable in saying that this story [00:06:00.080] is, to put it mildly, Boulderdash. If [00:06:04.479] you want details, I’m happy to supply [00:06:06.720] them.” Now, I’ve gone back to Paul and I [00:06:09.199] will be getting more details, but [00:06:10.960] basically um it does appear Lynn [00:06:14.160] Buchanan has made inferences that [00:06:16.080] there’s something dodgy about DNR DNA [00:06:18.639] databases being accessed or the [00:06:20.800] government taking a close interest in [00:06:22.319] DNA databases. But this is being refuted [00:06:25.360] by the official historian for the [00:06:27.520] Stargate program. But of course, to [00:06:30.319] quote Mandy Rice Davies, when she was [00:06:32.319] confronted in England about an alleged [00:06:34.400] affair with a British politician who was [00:06:36.560] also um she was also having an affair [00:06:38.960] with a Russian spy and the the [00:06:41.759] politician had denied it. It’s one of [00:06:43.360] the great statements in British [00:06:44.720] espionage. Well, he would say that, [00:06:47.120] wouldn’t he? Is what she said. So, you [00:06:49.600] know, can we take Paul Smith? Is it all [00:06:51.680] part of the cover up that he’s saying [00:06:53.600] that it’s not true? I don’t know. And [00:06:56.000] frankly, I really have no idea about the [00:06:58.479] veracity of these claims. What I can [00:07:00.880] tell you is that they are disputed. Um, [00:07:03.440] I’ve got a lot of respect for Jason [00:07:05.280] Rigger Giojani. He’s done some great [00:07:07.039] work in his time. He does sometimes, I [00:07:10.160] think, go way beyond what I know as [00:07:13.680] accepted official fact. But in these [00:07:15.919] wacky days of eupfology and revelations [00:07:18.800] where presidents are talking about [00:07:20.639] extraterrestrials, [00:07:22.240] who knows, maybe there are Nordics in [00:07:25.680] beautiful log cabins somewhere in [00:07:28.000] Colorado. If they are, could they please [00:07:31.039] reach out to Reality Check because we’d [00:07:33.360] love an interview. [00:07:35.440] >> Absolutely. [00:07:38.319] Summertime expenses in 2026 are stacking [00:07:41.680] up faster than ever. From those pricey [00:07:44.319] family vacations and record gas prices [00:07:47.759] to looming tuition and camp fees. For [00:07:50.960] many of us, it feels like the only [00:07:53.599] option is swiping the credit card, [00:07:56.479] leaving you trapped in a cycle of [00:07:58.960] highinterest debt. 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American Financing, America’s [00:08:58.000] home for home loans. 8668858027. [00:09:05.680] That’s 8668858027 [00:09:09.920] or americanancing.net/ [00:09:14.000] rosculart. [00:09:15.360] >> We will go to heavyhitter onx. Do you [00:09:18.399] think movies like Disclosure Day [00:09:20.240] negatively impact the seriousness of [00:09:22.320] this topic by keeping it in the [00:09:24.160] fringefiction category for people who [00:09:26.720] are less informed on the subject? [00:09:29.279] >> Actually, no, I don’t. I think [00:09:30.720] Disclosure Day is a great film. I I’ve [00:09:33.360] been invited to the premiere uh week [00:09:35.600] after next and I’m excited to be going [00:09:38.080] and you’ll be seeing our report on that [00:09:40.080] shortly. Um, uh, I think Steven [00:09:43.040] Spielberg has a long and illustrious [00:09:46.000] history in covering the issue of [00:09:48.480] nonhuman intelligence, I think, in an [00:09:50.880] intelligent and provocative way. Um, uh, [00:09:56.160] one thing I do take issue with, I guess, [00:09:58.640] is he’s consistently portrayed the [00:10:01.120] beings as always benevolent, never a [00:10:04.320] threat. And that’s not consistent with [00:10:06.240] some of the people that I’ve spoken to [00:10:08.240] that say that you can’t describe [00:10:10.880] everything about these non-human [00:10:12.399] intelligences, of which there are [00:10:13.839] allegedly multiple, as being 100% [00:10:16.480] benevolent. Um, one thing I do remember [00:10:19.440] is that wonderful story that uh, Ronald [00:10:22.079] Reagan told, President Ronald Reagan [00:10:24.079] told, and this has been confirmed to me [00:10:25.920] by someone who was actually there, not [00:10:27.920] Spielberg and sadly not President [00:10:30.160] Reagan, that when they watched Close [00:10:32.720] Encounters of the Third Kind in the [00:10:34.720] White House movie room with Steven [00:10:37.040] Spielberg present, the president said to [00:10:39.839] everyone in the room, [00:10:42.160] there’s a lot in that story, in that [00:10:44.240] film. everyone there there are a few [00:10:46.079] people in this room who know that [00:10:47.839] everything in that film is true and it’s [00:10:50.800] interesting because that film Close [00:10:52.320] Encounters was exploring the idea of [00:10:55.360] human engagement direct contact and [00:10:58.720] perhaps agreements with non-human beings [00:11:01.920] and the idea of human astronauts going [00:11:04.720] onto an alien spacecraft and going [00:11:06.880] somewhere else. Um, I think Steven [00:11:10.480] Spielber Spielberg’s film will hopefully [00:11:13.120] popularize and uh allay a lot of the [00:11:16.720] stigma and the taboo about the idea of [00:11:19.360] disclosure. By the way, I was quite [00:11:21.839] shocked today to see that in the midst [00:11:24.640] literally hard on the heels of the [00:11:26.800] president’s comments in the um uh [00:11:30.240] cabinet room in front of his different [00:11:32.480] cab cabinet colleagues um a special [00:11:36.000] advisor to the president Sha Chiddle [00:11:39.040] went public with quite an extraordinary [00:11:41.279] comment. He um he he said um gray [00:11:45.279] aliens. [00:11:47.040] Uh he was talking about the Disclosure [00:11:48.880] Day film and he said um he could explain [00:11:52.959] Gray Aliens as going back to a test [00:11:55.120] pilot called Dan who crashed in 1959 [00:11:58.959] wearing a redacted space suit in a [00:12:02.000] redacted aircraft. And he looked really [00:12:04.880] bad because his head had been knocked [00:12:06.480] around. His nose was barely visible. His [00:12:08.639] eyes were swelled shut in black and his [00:12:10.880] head had swelled. [00:12:12.880] Thus, Shan Chiddle asserts began the [00:12:15.519] legend of the gray alien that Spielberg [00:12:17.839] is talking about. And he went on to say [00:12:20.240] he’d used that version in ET, Close [00:12:22.800] Encounters, War of the Worlds, and Super [00:12:25.040] 8. Oh, no, deviated it from it a bit [00:12:27.120] with War of the Worlds and Super Eight. [00:12:29.279] Then he goes on to say, “The fact is [00:12:32.240] there is no such thing.” [00:12:34.959] Now I have the greatest respect for [00:12:37.040] anyone who gives their time and their [00:12:40.000] service to serve in the uh office of the [00:12:42.800] president. Sean Chiddle, senior director [00:12:45.279] at the executive office of the [00:12:47.200] president. But I honestly, sir, do not [00:12:49.839] understand how you can say [00:12:51.440] categorically, the fact is there is no [00:12:54.240] such thing as gray aliens when hundreds, [00:12:58.160] if not thousands of witnesses have [00:13:00.320] independently reported such things since [00:13:03.519] 1959. [00:13:05.200] Are we to assume that all of them are [00:13:07.839] pilots who’ve had their heads knocked [00:13:09.519] around in plane crashes? It’s a quite [00:13:12.160] extraordinary explanation and I [00:13:14.240] certainly hope that Shaun Chiddle goes [00:13:16.720] to the effort of asking his boss what [00:13:19.120] did he mean when he talked about [00:13:21.440] extraterrestrials in the cabinet office [00:13:23.760] today. Thank you, Megan. [00:13:26.000] >> Right, we will go to Muk Wicket on X. [00:13:29.200] Corbell, German Corbell, recently [00:13:31.200] released supposedly classified videos in [00:13:33.360] his new documentary Sleeping Dog. How do [00:13:36.000] you think he obtained said videos unless [00:13:38.160] he was working with the gatekeepers he [00:13:40.240] so vehemently opposes allegedly? [00:13:42.560] >> No, I’m sorry. I’m not buying into that. [00:13:44.800] That’s a silly theory. Journalists, and [00:13:47.440] Jeremy Corbel uh uh says that he’s a [00:13:50.720] journalist uh often receive leaked [00:13:54.240] information. Uh, and to his great [00:13:56.800] credit, Jeremy and George Knapp have [00:14:00.399] received a series of videos that they’ve [00:14:02.959] gone to an enormous amount of effort to [00:14:04.639] provide to the Congress. And a lot of [00:14:07.600] the 46 or so videos that were allegedly [00:14:10.880] provided or brought to the attention of [00:14:12.720] the Congress were originally alerted to [00:14:15.680] the knowledge of the Congress uh, UAP [00:14:18.320] caucus, I’m told, as a result of great [00:14:20.800] work done by Jeremy Corbell and George [00:14:22.800] Knapp. So, I don’t have a problem with [00:14:25.360] it at all, frankly. Um, uh, I don’t see [00:14:28.320] any conflict for Jeremy. We get leaked [00:14:30.560] stuff all the time. It’s perfectly [00:14:33.040] normal for journalists to be leaked [00:14:34.959] information. Where I have a problem [00:14:37.920] sometimes with some people who leak [00:14:40.399] information is they’re often reckless. [00:14:42.399] They often show disregard for national [00:14:44.800] security. And even though journalists [00:14:47.120] often get accused of breaching national [00:14:49.440] security by releasing information, um we [00:14:52.720] are and we do make an ethical assessment [00:14:55.519] legally of what’s legally able to be [00:14:58.000] revealed. And I think George and Jeremy [00:15:00.240] did that entirely properly. I think it’s [00:15:02.079] only to be applauded. This is exactly [00:15:04.320] what we want. Um, I don’t see any [00:15:06.720] conflict at all in doing what Jeremy and [00:15:08.880] George have done. And congratulations to [00:15:10.800] them for the great work that they’ve [00:15:12.959] been doing over at it weaponized and [00:15:14.959] bringing these videos into the public [00:15:16.800] domain. I know how careful both of them [00:15:20.079] have been in making sure they vet their [00:15:22.320] sources and in making sure that those [00:15:24.880] videos are not released publicly without [00:15:27.760] having proper redactions or checked [00:15:30.000] first with people who actually know [00:15:32.240] whether or not there are secrets that [00:15:33.839] that are being compromised by the re the [00:15:36.160] revelation of that information. So I’m [00:15:38.720] I’m sorry to disabuse the correspondent [00:15:41.519] to the notion that they appear to have [00:15:43.440] that there’s something wrong in what [00:15:45.040] Jeremy’s doing. I think he’s behaved [00:15:47.120] entirely properly. This is exactly what [00:15:49.360] needs to happen. Frankly, thank heavens [00:15:51.920] that the videos were leaked to Jeremy [00:15:54.079] and George and not to other people that [00:15:57.680] might have just put them up on the [00:16:00.079] internet without redactions because [00:16:04.079] I know a lot of people get really [00:16:05.440] frustrated about the redactions that do [00:16:07.360] appear on the videos and I think they [00:16:09.040] are excessive, the ones that have been [00:16:10.959] posted on the UFO uh Department of War [00:16:14.399] website, but we don’t want to reveal the [00:16:18.240] capabilities of predator drones. owns [00:16:20.800] aircraft that have surveillance [00:16:22.399] capabilities because that tells [00:16:24.160] potential foreign adversaries the [00:16:26.240] capabilities of our surveillance [00:16:27.920] technology. So, it’s only to be [00:16:30.000] applauded, frankly, that the president [00:16:31.759] and the White House administration have [00:16:33.600] made this decision to redact the videos [00:16:36.000] that have been released, albeit [00:16:38.160] incredibly frustrating. It would be good [00:16:41.040] if we could get some idea of some of the [00:16:43.680] data on some of these videos because [00:16:45.519] frankly they’re next to useless as [00:16:48.399] scientific data because there’s no data [00:16:51.120] associated with them that gives us any [00:16:53.120] idea about the movements. For example, [00:16:55.360] when you see something that looks like [00:16:57.680] instantaneous acceleration or hypersonic [00:17:01.040] speed on some of those videos, you [00:17:03.199] really can’t tell because all of the [00:17:05.360] data has been redacted. So, I have no [00:17:08.160] issue at all with what Jeremy and George [00:17:10.079] have been doing. It’s wonderful work and [00:17:12.079] frankly um uh that’s we need more of the [00:17:15.120] same. I I fear and people asked me [00:17:17.919] recently about catastrophic disclosure. [00:17:20.559] Catastrophic disclosure would be for the [00:17:23.600] government, for the Department of War, [00:17:25.280] for the president. If every single [00:17:28.400] video, every single piece of information [00:17:30.720] on eufology was inadvertently released [00:17:33.200] in a massive data dump like a Wikileaks [00:17:35.520] data dump uh because people in the [00:17:38.240] Pentagon, people in the intelligence [00:17:39.919] community are holding back on what they [00:17:42.160] know. I can tell you I think that’s a [00:17:45.840] real possibility unless the government [00:17:48.640] does what it’s currently doing. It’s [00:17:50.480] taking the steam out of the disclosure [00:17:53.039] debate by very very slowly trickling out [00:17:55.919] into the public domain data that makes [00:17:58.799] it I think increasingly uh [00:18:01.200] unquestionable that there is a [00:18:03.360] phenomenon there that is real and as the [00:18:06.160] president has intimated [00:18:08.320] extraterrestrial. [00:18:10.080] That was an astonishing admission by the [00:18:12.240] president and I just hope he adds to [00:18:15.039] that with further evidence in the coming [00:18:17.039] releases. What does he know? I hope he [00:18:19.919] knows a lot more than Sha Chiddle. [00:18:23.120] >> All right, we have an email that came in [00:18:24.400] from Chile. Dear Megan, dear Ross, your [00:18:26.559] work has been amazing. Thank you so much [00:18:28.080] for it. I have the following question [00:18:29.600] for you. The signs that the great [00:18:31.679] disclosure is finally coming, [00:18:32.960] catastrophic or not, are growing by day [00:18:35.200] by day. I have no doubt in my heart, [00:18:37.200] thanks to you and others like you, that [00:18:38.880] UAP exists and that their technology has [00:18:41.200] been being reverse engineered for [00:18:42.640] decades now. So the most important [00:18:44.480] question is really will we know about [00:18:46.640] the energy sources that must have been [00:18:48.640] discovered considering that giving those [00:18:50.720] resources to the public would completely [00:18:52.960] disrupt some of the most powerful [00:18:54.480] industries of our time and completely [00:18:56.640] change existing power structures. I [00:18:58.799] would love to hear your thoughts on that [00:18:59.919] Ross. Thanks a lot for thanks a lot and [00:19:02.320] what exciting times we are living in [00:19:03.679] best Michael. [00:19:04.480] >> Okay that’s a really good point. I mean [00:19:05.919] the point is that yes if there is [00:19:08.960] technology that has been developed from [00:19:11.440] acquired nonhuman technology if that’s [00:19:14.240] true and I strongly suspect it is if [00:19:17.440] they for example have developed zero [00:19:19.919] point energy energy from the quantum [00:19:21.919] vacuum the capacity to draw unlimited [00:19:24.400] amounts of energy through um an [00:19:27.440] understanding of quantum science that at [00:19:29.360] least in the public domain has not yet [00:19:31.679] been fully explained. [00:19:34.240] That would be an absolute onlogical [00:19:37.600] shock not just to humanity but [00:19:39.520] particularly to the markets. It would [00:19:41.440] probably wipe out every top 100 company [00:19:44.320] on the American stock exchange [00:19:46.080] overnight. If you think about the [00:19:48.559] dominance of fossil fuels, hydrocarbons, [00:19:51.360] and the way in which the incredible [00:19:54.400] power of the fossil fuel industry, the [00:19:56.640] oil industry influences just about every [00:19:59.200] company in America. where we get our [00:20:01.679] energy, how we drive our propulsion [00:20:04.000] systems, everything would change [00:20:06.799] overnight. This is something I’m going [00:20:09.120] to be exploring in an interview very [00:20:11.039] soon with Matthew Tuttle, who’s the [00:20:13.679] chief executive of Tuttle Capital [00:20:15.679] Management, who has actually started up [00:20:18.240] an exchange trading fund looking at UFO [00:20:22.240] disclosure. He’s decided it’s time to [00:20:25.200] put together an investment fund that [00:20:27.200] bundles together stocks, commodities, [00:20:30.720] bonds that have UFO related technology [00:20:34.960] that might give investors an advantage [00:20:37.039] by investing in it. And so he’s trying [00:20:39.360] to pick those potential stocks that [00:20:41.919] might leap if this revelation of [00:20:44.640] disclosure occurs. And yes, it would be [00:20:48.240] market changing, but I explore this idea [00:20:50.640] with Matthew Tuttle in my interview. Is [00:20:52.880] it going to destroy the American [00:20:54.799] economy? I strongly doubt it. One of the [00:20:57.360] things about America is its resilience [00:20:59.360] and its capacity to bounce back from [00:21:01.840] disasters as it did in the Second World [00:21:04.320] War, as it did in the Great Depression. [00:21:06.880] It has a long history of responding to [00:21:10.080] stresses. And yes, I do think that there [00:21:13.520] are game-changing technologies in uh [00:21:16.559] both propulsion systems and energy [00:21:18.640] systems and a huge array of other [00:21:21.600] technological breakthroughs that I think [00:21:23.360] will probably if anything else vault [00:21:26.720] America into the 21st century if they [00:21:30.080] embrace this technological change with [00:21:32.240] both hands. Incredible as it may sound, [00:21:35.520] I do believe that there are people in [00:21:38.080] the intelligence and defense community [00:21:40.559] who in collusion with companies that are [00:21:43.360] stock exchange listed major companies [00:21:45.919] are sitting on technological [00:21:47.679] breakthroughs that could help humanity [00:21:50.640] probably get rid of fossil fuels [00:21:52.559] overnight. I sincerely believe that that [00:21:56.159] is the case. That’s certainly what’s [00:21:57.919] being conveyed to me by people I’m [00:22:00.240] speaking to from within what’s called [00:22:02.960] the legacy program. There is a deep [00:22:05.760] frustration that Americans, the rest of [00:22:08.240] the world aren’t being told the full [00:22:10.640] truth. They want this story out. And [00:22:15.120] maybe what’s happening with the [00:22:17.280] currently very small D disclosure that’s [00:22:19.760] coming from the White House with the [00:22:22.000] war.gov/UFOS’s gov/ufos website. Maybe [00:22:24.880] that’s the beginning of a broader [00:22:26.400] disclosure. I’m not so sure. I still [00:22:28.960] think that there’s push back from the [00:22:30.480] intelligence community, from the defense [00:22:32.400] department, and particularly from [00:22:34.960] private aerospace and some of those big [00:22:37.679] top 100 companies. There are a lot of [00:22:41.679] wealthy business people, bureaucrats, [00:22:44.400] who frankly don’t want you to have free [00:22:47.520] energy. All [00:22:48.640] >> right, this is from Seek the Day on X. [00:22:51.200] Hi, Megan. Can Ross tell us more about [00:22:53.120] the B-52 cockpit footage where a pilot [00:22:56.400] supposedly recorded a disc next to the [00:22:59.120] aircraft with occupants looking out of a [00:23:01.200] window? Thanks. [00:23:02.559] >> I can’t really uh I don’t know any more [00:23:04.720] than what I’ve been told by my own [00:23:06.320] source. I’ve gone back to my source and [00:23:08.400] they’ve said exactly what I’ve just [00:23:10.159] said. They’re not willing to give me any [00:23:11.760] more detail and they cpped I think [00:23:14.240] serious heat where they are for even [00:23:16.799] talking about it. Um uh I’ve had it [00:23:20.080] confirmed to me that there are these and [00:23:23.360] other extraordinarily [00:23:25.440] clear highresolution imageries that are [00:23:27.760] not yet being released by the [00:23:29.200] government. And that’s why to a large [00:23:31.200] extent I think what we’re being given on [00:23:33.039] the war.gov/ufos [00:23:35.039] website is frankly [00:23:37.840] bits and pieces for the chooks just to [00:23:39.919] keep us happy, to keep us entertained. [00:23:42.559] As President Trump observed in his [00:23:45.360] cabinet meeting, this is a number one [00:23:49.600] issue of interest for the world, not [00:23:52.400] just the American public. Billions of [00:23:55.360] people now cannot be wrong. The interest [00:23:58.640] in this subject matter is huge. It has [00:24:02.880] taken the Department of War and the [00:24:04.960] White House by surprise that people are [00:24:07.280] so motivated to get to the truth of [00:24:10.000] this. And yes, I’m told there are many [00:24:13.279] such videos. Uh, a lot of them sit on [00:24:16.240] still classified top secret [00:24:18.400] compartmentalized servers, mainly on the [00:24:20.960] um JWix platform. I’ve spoken to people [00:24:24.720] who’ve seen some of these films. I’ve [00:24:26.720] spoken as recently as yesterday to [00:24:28.720] someone who was principally involved in [00:24:31.360] helping get the videos that were [00:24:33.520] provided to Congress to Congress. and [00:24:36.559] they are people inside the national [00:24:38.880] security complex who are doing brave and [00:24:41.679] courageous things to make sure that you, [00:24:43.679] the public, get to hear what’s going on. [00:24:46.880] And I think there’s a momentum here now. [00:24:49.440] I I think a lot of these videos are [00:24:52.240] still sitting in cupboards with a lot of [00:24:54.960] people from the intelligence community [00:24:56.559] hoping they never see the light of day. [00:24:58.799] But I’ll just remind people of what Lou [00:25:00.880] Alzando told us in our reality check [00:25:03.200] show on the very first Tranch release of [00:25:05.600] the UFO files. He talked about a 4K [00:25:09.120] video that he’s aware of that still [00:25:11.679] hasn’t been declassified that puts the [00:25:14.400] issue of anomalous phenomena, the five [00:25:18.080] observables, well beyond dart. So, I’m [00:25:21.200] really sorry I can’t add any more to [00:25:22.880] what I’ve already described, but suffice [00:25:24.880] to say, there’s a hell of a lot more [00:25:26.960] there in the cupboard, and it’s time it [00:25:29.360] was brought out into the public domain. [00:25:32.000] >> We will head to Christopher. Has Ross [00:25:33.919] heard of the Red Book and Yellow Book? [00:25:36.159] This is a very important question. [00:25:38.320] >> Oh gosh, the Red Book and the Yellow [00:25:40.240] Book. I do know about the Red Book and [00:25:41.919] the Yellow Book. In conspiracy theory [00:25:43.840] law, the red book and the yellow book [00:25:46.799] refer to alleged highly classified [00:25:49.600] documents or devices related to [00:25:52.880] government alien interaction. They’re [00:25:56.159] not verified as real. They’re not part [00:25:58.720] of project blue book or any modern ao [00:26:03.440] the Pentagon UFO office efforts. They [00:26:05.840] are first and foremost just conspiracy [00:26:08.559] theories at the at the best. The Yellow [00:26:11.919] Book is described uh by um mainly it [00:26:17.279] came out first in a book written by a [00:26:19.120] guy called Gil Carson, The Yellow Book, [00:26:21.520] The History of Aliens on Earth and Len [00:26:24.480] Casten’s Secret Journey to Planet Serpo. [00:26:28.400] And um it’s an allegedly alienprovided [00:26:32.320] book, more like a holographic [00:26:34.240] interactive device or transparent block [00:26:36.640] approximately 2 and 1/2 in thick with a [00:26:39.840] yellow border resembling an advanced [00:26:42.080] iPad or crystal slab. And it was [00:26:44.320] supposedly given to the US government by [00:26:46.480] extraterrestrials [00:26:48.000] often called Ebans from Zeta Reticuli [00:26:51.919] Serpo during a 1964 [00:26:55.200] Hollowman Air Force Base landing by [00:26:57.679] EBE2, a female alien ambassador. And [00:27:02.320] this was claimed to be the aliens own [00:27:04.320] history of the universe, their planet [00:27:06.400] interactions with Earth going back 2,000 [00:27:08.720] plus years ago, human evolution, events [00:27:12.000] like the crucifixion of Christ. [00:27:13.840] Apparently, that was depicted [00:27:15.360] holographically. [00:27:17.039] It reportedly allowed immersive viewing [00:27:20.080] of scenes and adapted to the reader’s [00:27:22.159] language and thoughts, but started from [00:27:24.320] the beginning every time it was [00:27:25.840] accessed. Could you imagine a more [00:27:27.279] frustrating book? The red book was a [00:27:30.559] human-made thick orange brownish [00:27:33.760] physical compendium or series of volumes [00:27:36.880] compiled by the US government. It’s [00:27:40.159] allegedly updated every 5 years and [00:27:42.720] includes cross-referenced info from the [00:27:45.360] yellow book and it’s allegedly a [00:27:47.760] detailed summary of all US UFO UAP crash [00:27:52.240] investigations from 1947 onwards. alien [00:27:55.679] contacts, crash retrievals, national [00:27:57.679] security implications, trends in [00:28:00.159] sightings. There’s sources, anonymous of [00:28:03.760] course, that have been quoted saying it [00:28:06.240] includes executive summaries for [00:28:08.799] presidents. Now, [00:28:11.679] it’s all sourced back to what’s called [00:28:14.399] the project sero materials, which to say [00:28:17.440] they are controversial would be a [00:28:19.600] massive understatement. that there’s um [00:28:22.640] allegedly anonymous emails and posts [00:28:25.520] claiming a secret 1960s 1970s US alien [00:28:30.399] exchange program which I have to say [00:28:33.200] most researchers consider either a hoax [00:28:35.840] or a deliberate disinformation program [00:28:38.399] by the intelligence community. There’s a [00:28:41.120] guy called um Richard Boland in UFO [00:28:44.000] circles who’s uh referenced them. But [00:28:47.360] look, not surprisingly, of course, [00:28:49.279] there’s no verifiable evidence to [00:28:51.440] actually support the claims that they [00:28:53.279] make. Um, I sure hope the US does have a [00:28:57.440] red book or a yellow book. It would be [00:28:59.520] fantastic if they did. They should. Um, [00:29:03.120] I certainly know that there is data kept [00:29:06.159] on what the US knows about this [00:29:08.720] phenomenon. I don’t know if it’s called [00:29:10.880] the the yellow book or the the red book, [00:29:13.360] but I sure hope somebody’s keeping the [00:29:15.440] records. And I hope one day I hope one [00:29:18.720] day those records see the light of day. [00:29:21.279] >> All right, we have Adrian. Hi Rosco. Tom [00:29:23.840] Dong bar one statement on Instagram [00:29:25.840] recently has been quiet in recent years [00:29:27.919] on the topic. How would you view the [00:29:29.919] role he played in all this and will you [00:29:32.159] ever have the chance to interview him? [00:29:34.080] Also Megan, you are the Joe Beth Taylor [00:29:35.919] to Ross’s Daryl Summers. [00:29:38.080] >> That is a very nice and flattering [00:29:40.080] comment that he just made about you [00:29:41.600] there. Megan um Tom Dong and I spoke [00:29:45.120] very recently. I think I’m not breaching [00:29:47.200] any confidences by saying that. I can’t [00:29:49.200] reveal what we discussed, but yes, I’m [00:29:51.279] hoping I can persuade Tom to do an [00:29:53.120] interview. I would dearly love I would [00:29:55.679] crawl over Grand Last to get Tom and to [00:29:59.200] tell me on camera some of the things [00:30:01.200] that we’ve talked about off camera. Uh [00:30:03.360] Tom is still very much engaged and [00:30:06.000] interested in the UFO subject. He never [00:30:08.320] let it go. And uh uh suffice to say, if [00:30:12.399] we can get him on reality check, by [00:30:14.480] golly, we will. [00:30:16.080] >> Absolutely. I would love that so much. [00:30:18.720] We will do one more sneak in here at the [00:30:20.799] end from James. Hello, Ross. I have [00:30:23.039] heard you say several times that you [00:30:24.799] began investigating UFOs with the [00:30:26.320] intention of debunking the topic. Can [00:30:28.559] you recall what it was you learned that [00:30:30.399] changed your mind? Keep up the excellent [00:30:32.480] work, JTK. [00:30:35.120] Look, this there was a whole variety of [00:30:37.360] things that changed my mind, but [00:30:39.039] probably the most significant was as a [00:30:42.000] result of a whole lot of letters that I [00:30:43.919] wrote to people who I just assumed might [00:30:47.279] know something about the legacy program [00:30:49.520] if it existed. I got a letter back and [00:30:52.240] then eventually I had a whole series of [00:30:54.320] phone calls and meetings online with a [00:30:57.360] wonderful man called Nat Kobitz who was [00:31:00.240] the former of director of science, [00:31:02.720] technology and development for the [00:31:04.799] entire US Navy. He was kind of their [00:31:08.320] chief geek and that God bless him. He [00:31:12.000] was a a wisecracking Brooklyn Jew, lived [00:31:15.279] in Baltimore. Uh he was sadly when I [00:31:17.760] spoke to him dying very slowly from [00:31:19.840] cancer and he was staying with his [00:31:21.600] daughter and he was bored witless [00:31:24.080] sitting around home. He’d received my [00:31:25.919] letter and I probably just got him at [00:31:27.600] exactly the right time. And I can reveal [00:31:31.039] Nat’s name because sadly he passed away [00:31:33.440] while he and I were in the process of [00:31:35.679] talking extensively about what he knew. [00:31:38.480] And I’ve revealed a little bit about [00:31:41.200] what he told me uh in my book in plain [00:31:43.919] sight. But obviously we spoke quite a [00:31:46.640] lot more and he revealed quite a lot [00:31:48.320] more than he told me and that I that [00:31:50.159] I’ve revealed about what he told me in [00:31:51.760] my book. It was Nat who [00:31:55.840] introduced me to people who had direct [00:31:59.360] knowledge of the program. Uh Nat also [00:32:03.039] told me that he had been read in i.e. [00:32:06.960] security briefed national security [00:32:08.960] briefed into the legacy program. the [00:32:12.880] fact that the United States has [00:32:15.120] recovered quote multiple nonhuman craft. [00:32:19.760] And he also admitted to me that um [00:32:22.880] because he was an expert on a particular [00:32:24.960] type of welding called I think it’s [00:32:26.880] called electron beam welding which is an [00:32:29.760] almost invisible weld. After he left the [00:32:33.200] employee of the US Navy, but while I [00:32:35.440] suspect he still had a security [00:32:36.799] clearance, he was given the trip I would [00:32:40.320] love one day to take. I sincerely hope [00:32:42.559] one day this happens. He was invited to [00:32:44.960] come to Wright Patterson Air Force Base, [00:32:47.679] the most myth mythologized air force [00:32:50.720] base in US UFO history. And he was taken [00:32:54.640] deep underground to what he says was [00:32:57.760] clearly a highly secure installation [00:33:01.039] where he was shown what in the end he [00:33:03.519] acknowledged to me was probably bits of [00:33:06.559] an alien spacecraft. And what he saw was [00:33:09.440] a piece of broken bulkhead uh that was [00:33:12.080] incredibly feather-like even though it [00:33:14.000] was a very large bit of bulkhead. And [00:33:16.480] they were asking him to look at two [00:33:18.640] metals that were joined in that bulkhead [00:33:20.799] to see how they’d been joined. And they [00:33:24.159] thought it might be the technique that [00:33:26.399] he was familiar with, electron beam [00:33:28.240] welding, but it wasn’t. I remember he [00:33:30.880] said to me with total awe that this was [00:33:35.360] bonded at the atomic level, that it was [00:33:38.399] a type of almost 3D construction of [00:33:42.799] bonding of two different types of metal [00:33:45.200] in a way that he said completely defied [00:33:48.240] his understanding as a scientist. And [00:33:50.960] remember this is one of the top [00:33:54.000] scientists in the US Navy. I was [00:33:56.159] humbled. He was a beautiful man. I I [00:33:58.399] used to love talking to him about [00:33:59.760] everything. He he just had so many great [00:34:01.679] stories and I miss him still. Uh he I [00:34:05.120] think just loved yarning about the [00:34:07.840] experiments that he’d done and and he’d [00:34:10.079] been all over the place. China Lake. [00:34:12.960] He’d seen all the top secret facilities. [00:34:15.359] He’d been inside all the big hillsides [00:34:17.599] buried in different parts of America. [00:34:20.079] And he was incredibly candid to me and [00:34:23.119] incredibly helpful to me. and I will [00:34:24.879] forever owe a deep debt to a man who I [00:34:28.639] recognize as a great American patriot. [00:34:32.720] And I can only reiterate what he told me [00:34:34.879] privately. [00:34:36.399] There is no good reason why the American [00:34:39.839] public shouldn’t know the truth, which [00:34:43.280] is why he shared [00:34:45.599] what he shared with me. And that that [00:34:48.480] probably more than any other incident. [00:34:50.159] There were many, but that’s probably the [00:34:52.320] key communication that I had where as a [00:34:56.560] result of his instigation and his [00:34:58.480] introductions, I met some fabulous, [00:35:02.480] brave, courageous people inside the [00:35:05.520] legacy program who put everything on the [00:35:08.800] line to tell me what they knew. [00:35:12.079] And one day, I’m hoping those people [00:35:14.720] will speak. I sincerely hope they do. [00:35:18.720] Thanks, Megan. [00:35:20.160] >> That was a great story, Ross. Thank you [00:35:21.760] so much. [00:35:23.359] >> That’s a real pleasure. Is that the uh [00:35:24.960] is that the wrap for the week? [00:35:26.480] >> That is that is your cue that we are [00:35:28.240] wrapped. Yes, we are good. [00:35:30.079] >> Okay. So, in a week when we’ve had the [00:35:32.240] president use the ET word. That’s quite [00:35:36.000] something. And I don’t think we’re going [00:35:38.240] to see a slowing down in what is now a [00:35:41.920] very wacky and wild ride in UAP [00:35:45.599] research. He is hoping we get another [00:35:48.560] UFO files tranch soon and that it’s more [00:35:52.960] overwhelming or less underwhelming than [00:35:55.200] what we’ve seen to date. If you want to [00:35:57.760] ask us any questions for this reality [00:35:59.680] check Q&A, you can send your questions [00:36:01.839] to reality check@newsnation [00:36:05.839] now.com. [00:36:07.359] And please remember you can listen to us [00:36:09.839] on all good audio platforms including [00:36:12.720] Audible and Spotify. [00:36:15.440] Love your work, love hearing from you. [00:36:17.760] Please keep in touch. Thank you very [00:36:20.000] much, Megan. And thank you very much, [00:36:22.160] beautiful audience. [00:36:23.359] >> Thanks, Ross. [00:36:26.560] >> This is Megan Medic from News Nation’s [00:36:28.560] Unreported. And something that I firmly [00:36:30.560] believe is sometimes what isn’t [00:36:32.640] investigated is just as important as [00:36:35.599] what is. So why is no one looking [00:36:38.000] closely at Jeffrey Epstein’s Zoro Ranch? [00:36:41.599] This massive property, 10,000 acres in [00:36:45.040] New Mexico, is just sitting there and we [00:36:47.200] don’t actually know what’s inside. Even [00:36:50.240] after this massive document dump, Colin [00:36:53.599] Browen from the Paranormal Files, he was [00:36:55.920] brave enough to head out to the ranch [00:36:57.440] himself. The cops were called on him two [00:37:00.560] times. He’s looking for answers. He [00:37:02.640] wants justice for these victims, and [00:37:04.400] this is a story that we just can’t let [00:37:06.720] go. Can’t wait to see you this week on