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[00:00:01.309] [music] [00:00:03.040] >> If we develop our psychic ability, [00:00:06.080] we are going to be a power in the [00:00:07.680] universe [00:00:09.440] because we can see [music] [00:00:11.080] way into the future, [00:00:13.000] anywhere in space. That’s why our [00:00:15.640] friends want us out there and our [00:00:18.280] enemies don’t want us off this planet. [00:00:24.080] >> You have experienced so much both in the [00:00:26.680] world of remote viewing. You are the [00:00:29.240] inspiration for the men who stared at [00:00:30.800] goats. An incredible George Clooney [00:00:32.599] movie about a psychic spy stopping a [00:00:35.400] goat’s heart. So, you must have had a [00:00:37.200] very high clearance. [00:00:38.760] >> Oh, yeah. I had one of the highest [00:00:40.320] clearances not only for the remote [00:00:42.520] viewing but for other stuff that will [00:00:45.040] never be talked about. [00:00:46.480] >> You remote viewed alien bases. [00:00:48.760] >> The four major alien bases on the Earth. [00:00:51.960] One in Mount Hayes, Alaska. Mount Zeal [00:00:55.760] in Australia. [00:00:57.480] >> Secret mountain near Bradshaw Ranch in [00:01:00.200] Sedona, Arizona. Mount Inyangani is [00:01:03.440] another alien base. Have you ever seen [00:01:06.520] humans and aliens [music] working side [00:01:08.560] by side in a non-remote viewing [00:01:11.160] capacity? [00:01:12.080] >> Yeah. One of the What do they call the [00:01:14.480] insectoids? Wow. They were sitting in a [00:01:17.320] row of humans that were at the positions [00:01:20.200] working [music] some equipment. [00:01:22.360] >> Wow. You’ve seen a UFO inside a hangar. [00:01:25.360] >> That’s where I came across this control [00:01:27.280] panel and that’s when I said, “Hey, [00:01:29.680] that’s the side of a UFO.” [00:01:31.480] >> So, how do you fly a UFO? [music] [00:01:33.720] >> An impression of a hand on it where you [00:01:36.640] put your finger over the hole controls [00:01:38.720] the ship. [00:01:40.000] The alien was there. He took me up [00:01:41.960] front. He was the pilot. So, I tried it [00:01:44.680] and I learned how to do it. [00:01:47.600] >> People like you with high psi powers, [00:01:50.320] elite-level skilled. [00:01:51.720] >> Yeah. [00:01:52.120] >> You can do a lot. [00:01:53.000] >> We can change the weather anywhere [00:01:54.626] [music] in the world. [00:01:55.840] >> This takes mutually assured destruction [00:01:57.840] to a whole new level. [00:01:58.800] >> The Russians look across the battlefield [00:02:01.200] and kill their enemies by stopping their [00:02:03.040] hearts. [00:02:05.360] Our government was afraid of us. [00:02:07.720] With the remote viewing, there’s no more [00:02:09.720] secrets. [00:02:14.276] >> [music] [00:02:16.080] >> My biggest strength actually is [00:02:17.840] accessing people mentally. [00:02:20.160] >> Mhm. [00:02:21.400] >> Can you access me mentally right now? [00:02:25.320] >> The ignition sequence start. [00:02:28.686] >> [music] [00:02:29.240] >> How is this possible? [00:02:31.640] >> Nothing too unusual about that. [00:02:35.236] >> [music] [00:02:35.360] >> Their existence can no longer be denied. [00:02:47.520] >> Here with Lynn Buchanan, this is a total [00:02:50.000] honor and I don’t know if you know this, [00:02:51.680] but this is a full circle moment for me [00:02:53.400] because right when I started my show, [00:02:55.880] I called Jeffrey Mishlove cuz I was a [00:02:57.959] huge fan of his show New Thinking [00:02:59.800] Allowed and I need to still have him on [00:03:02.440] as a guest, [00:03:04.000] but he recommended I interview you and I [00:03:06.400] almost did this road trip across New [00:03:08.160] Mexico and so you would have been the [00:03:10.440] first American Alchemy guest. [00:03:13.120] >> Well, hey, that’s that’s an honor for [00:03:15.360] me. Well, it’s an honor for me to be [00:03:16.840] here today. Thank you. [00:03:18.560] >> It’s an honor for me to have you. I [00:03:20.120] think [00:03:21.200] without spoiling too much for the [00:03:22.560] audience, [00:03:23.800] you have experienced so much [00:03:26.160] >> All right. [00:03:26.480] >> both in the world of remote viewing and [00:03:29.200] you know, you were stationed at Fort [00:03:30.600] Meade and you are the inspiration for [00:03:33.480] The Men Who Stare at Goats, this you [00:03:35.400] know, incredible George Clooney movie [00:03:37.040] about a psychic spy stopping a goat’s [00:03:39.880] heart and we can talk about whether how [00:03:42.000] real that is, [00:03:43.560] um but you also have all these kind of [00:03:45.600] intersections with you know, you remote [00:03:47.320] viewed alien bases, you’ve seen a UFO [00:03:50.720] inside a hangar, not just in some sort [00:03:53.400] of liminal consciousness remote viewing [00:03:55.640] space. [00:03:56.240] >> Mhm. [00:03:56.800] >> And so, [00:03:58.080] uh I don’t know. There’s so many things [00:04:00.000] you have you’ve had uh you’ve remote [00:04:01.800] viewed political figures, religious [00:04:03.760] figures. [00:04:05.040] Um [00:04:05.600] there’s a lot to to to get into here. [00:04:07.440] So, I’m very excited to have you. [00:04:09.480] >> I have lived in interesting times. [00:04:12.832] >> [laughter] [00:04:13.360] >> You have and and you are uh [00:04:15.560] subtly referring to the, you know, [00:04:17.320] Confucian proverb “It’s better to live [00:04:19.440] in interesting times.” Which is actually [00:04:21.079] kind of a Confucian curse, so it’s [00:04:23.312] >> [laughter] [00:04:24.560] >> We live in interesting but bad times. [00:04:26.760] >> Yeah. [00:04:27.360] >> It’s true. [00:04:29.208] >> [laughter] [00:04:30.720] >> Uh well, before I have you remote view [00:04:32.800] uh Hanta virus and, you know, whatever’s [00:04:35.103] [laughter] going to whatever’s going to [00:04:36.720] come down the pipe, um [00:04:38.600] I want to start with your kind of origin [00:04:41.160] story as far as how you got into the [00:04:42.840] remote viewing program. [00:04:44.160] >> Most people look at all of the people [00:04:47.040] who were remote viewers in the remote [00:04:49.240] viewing unit and never ask what they did [00:04:51.560] before. [00:04:52.640] We all had serious military histories [00:04:56.200] before that. [00:04:57.640] Um [00:04:58.720] I was in Augsburg, Germany. Ever since I [00:05:02.320] was about 12 years old, I had this PK [00:05:05.760] ability. [00:05:07.520] Uh [00:05:09.040] like a poltergeist kid. Do you know what [00:05:11.120] that is? [00:05:11.840] >> No. [00:05:12.320] >> A poltergeist kid is one of those kids [00:05:14.520] where when they get emotionally upset, [00:05:16.760] things fall off shelves and things like [00:05:18.520] that. [00:05:18.919] >> So, you were like Matilda. [00:05:20.600] >> Yeah. Yeah. [00:05:21.608] >> [laughter] [00:05:21.800] >> Yeah. [00:05:22.480] And that’s actually more common than [00:05:25.120] people realize, but people grow out of [00:05:27.960] it. [00:05:28.800] And uh my mother encouraged it. [00:05:31.720] And so, I sort of grew into it. [00:05:35.000] >> You fried a computer? [00:05:37.360] >> Yeah. Um [00:05:39.400] in Augsburg, [00:05:41.120] they had 12 different countries [00:05:45.960] in that one facility, [00:05:48.920] and they all had their own computers, [00:05:50.760] their own computer systems and all that [00:05:53.360] that didn’t talk to each other. [00:05:55.680] Well, [00:05:56.760] uh [00:05:57.600] I can program computers. So, [00:06:00.520] they put out this thing [00:06:03.040] where they wanted somebody to program to [00:06:05.640] write a program that would tie all 12 [00:06:07.600] computers together [00:06:09.840] and [snorts] get them talking to each [00:06:11.080] other. [00:06:12.040] This one of the sergeant, uh wanted the [00:06:14.760] job. Um I wanted the job and I got it. [00:06:19.280] So, about 9 months later, I had the [00:06:23.120] program written [00:06:25.040] and uh came the time to demonstrate it. [00:06:29.240] And all the generals from 12 different [00:06:31.880] countries got together and all [00:06:34.400] and uh [00:06:35.880] I went to the bathroom to make sure my [00:06:38.360] hair was in place and no wrinkles in my [00:06:40.840] uniform and all that and I came back [00:06:44.280] did my little song and dance for the [00:06:46.240] generals and then hit the enter key [00:06:49.560] to start the program [00:06:52.120] and the computer went dead. And I mean, [00:06:55.560] I had tested this thing over and over [00:06:57.880] and over. [00:06:59.240] And they all started laughing at me. [00:07:02.680] Uh I turned around and the other [00:07:04.560] sergeant was at the back door of the [00:07:06.560] room [00:07:07.880] and [00:07:09.080] he said [00:07:10.520] “Gotcha.” and turned around and walked [00:07:12.840] off. [00:07:14.000] He wanted that job. And he was just [00:07:16.919] waiting. [00:07:18.240] I got flaming angry. [00:07:21.600] When I did, the entire [00:07:25.120] field station went down. [00:07:27.160] Uh [snorts] there was an estimate [00:07:29.120] sometime later that um [00:07:31.640] it was about 50 million dollars worth of [00:07:34.040] computers that just [00:07:36.680] went bad. Fried. And uh [00:07:39.815] >> [gasps] [00:07:40.160] >> so for the next [00:07:42.280] period of time that’s still classified, [00:07:45.240] we were Everybody at the field station [00:07:47.960] was [00:07:49.320] going to work, taking their crossword [00:07:51.760] puzzle books, [00:07:53.120] all this, [00:07:54.280] you know, making it look like to the [00:07:56.120] Russian spy in the sky like business as [00:07:59.120] usual. [00:08:00.440] Come to find out later, the Russians [00:08:02.320] were doing the same thing over in East [00:08:04.000] Germany [00:08:05.280] because it had fried their computers, [00:08:07.160] too. [00:08:08.400] And um [00:08:10.400] So, anyway, and this is documented, by [00:08:13.400] the way. So, anyway, um General [00:08:16.400] Stebbins, the head of the Intelligence [00:08:18.640] and Security Command, [00:08:20.425] >> [sighs and gasps] [00:08:20.840] >> had been looking for something like [00:08:22.919] that. [00:08:24.360] He got wind of it, and um [00:08:27.600] he came [00:08:29.240] uh to the field station to install a new [00:08:31.600] commander. [00:08:33.200] And uh [00:08:34.800] when [00:08:36.200] he came, they came to my desk, and they [00:08:38.840] said, [00:08:40.360] “The general wants to see you.” And I [00:08:43.280] thought, [00:08:44.520] “Crap, what have I done now?” you know. [00:08:46.720] And uh he installed a new commander. [00:08:50.400] He and the new commander came back to [00:08:52.400] the office, and I was standing there [00:08:54.839] waiting, and he [00:08:58.160] looked at my name tag, and he said, [00:08:59.680] “You’re Sergeant Buchanan.” I said, [00:09:01.160] “Yes, sir.” He said, “Follow me.” [00:09:04.240] He grabbed me by the arm and shoved me [00:09:06.080] ahead of him. [00:09:08.240] Now, you walk behind the general. He [00:09:10.280] shoved me ahead of him. We went into the [00:09:12.400] new commander’s office. [00:09:14.440] He turned to the new commander and said, [00:09:17.080] “I need to talk to Sergeant Buchanan. [00:09:19.280] Get out.” [00:09:22.000] You can guess what list I went to the [00:09:24.320] head of. [00:09:26.240] And I was there for another 2 months at [00:09:28.800] the top of that list. [00:09:29.960] >> What list? [00:09:31.440] >> Uh the list. [00:09:33.131] >> [laughter] [00:09:35.400] >> And uh anyway, about 2 months later they [00:09:39.080] got transferred to Fort Meade. [00:09:43.400] And, um, General Stubblebine wanted to [00:09:46.520] put me [00:09:48.320] as the [00:09:50.000] beginning of a unit that would destroy [00:09:53.760] enemy computers. [00:09:56.040] And with the end goal of controlling the [00:09:59.240] enemy computers so that we could make [00:10:01.200] their missiles turn around and go back [00:10:02.800] or drop into the sea or something like [00:10:04.640] that. Or put false information into the [00:10:07.520] enemy computers. [00:10:09.880] Congress said, uh, [00:10:12.120] “No, that’s mind control.” [00:10:14.720] And wouldn’t fund it. [00:10:17.840] So, he took me out to Fort Meade and, [00:10:20.760] um, [00:10:22.600] had that [00:10:23.840] remote viewing unit. He took me out [00:10:26.120] there and put me into that. [00:10:29.320] And when they read me on, which is where [00:10:31.960] they [00:10:33.320] they give you a sheet of paper that [00:10:34.720] tells you what the unit really does, not [00:10:37.400] what they tell the public it does. [00:10:39.680] And, uh, you read that and down at the [00:10:41.839] bottom you sign it. [00:10:43.960] Um, 10 years in jail and $10,000fineif[00:10:47.520]yourevealanyofthis.[00:10:49.760]Andso,IreaditandIthought,"This[00:10:53.320]isajoke."[00:10:54.880]TheArmydoes{n}^{\prime }tdopsychicstuff.[00:10:58.440]And,um,[00:11:01.560]cometofindouttheydid.[00:11:03.880]Andtha{t}^{\prime }showIgotintotheunit.[00:11:06.440]Uh,theystartedteachingmetheIngo[00:11:09.160]Swannmethod.[00:11:11.000]And,um,[00:11:12.560]Itooktoitlikeaducktowater.I[00:11:15.200]mean,i{t}^{\prime }sthegreatestthing{I}^{\prime }dever[00:11:16.600]seen.[00:11:17.360]>>So,Stubblebine,wh{o}^{\prime }sheadof[00:11:20.080]inArmyINSCOM,isthatright?[00:11:22.320]>>IntelligenceandSecurityCommand,yeah.[00:11:24.360]>>IntelligenceandSecurityCommand,and[00:11:26.520]h{e}^{\prime }slookingforpeoplelikeyouwith[00:11:28.760]highpsipowers.[00:11:30.360]>>Yes,hehashadbeenforforyears,[00:11:33.200]yeah.Uh-huh.[00:11:34.000]>>So,h{e}^{\prime }slikeifw{e}^{\prime }reinStranger[00:11:35.600]Things,yo{u}^{\prime }relike11andh{e}^{\prime }slike[00:11:38.200]MatthewModin{e}^{\prime }scharactercomingin.[00:11:40.480]>>Iguess,yeah.[00:11:41.800]>>Sayingthisguyhassomerealreal[00:11:43.560]powers.[00:11:44.480]>>Oh,yeah.Yeah,becauseuh[00:11:48.000]IfoundoutyearslaterumIwasatthe[00:11:51.240]BureauofIndianAffairs[00:11:53.400]inthecafeteriaandIwassittingthere[00:11:56.000]andthis[00:11:57.120]Aussie[00:11:58.560]officer[00:11:59.800]cameupfromAustralia,yeah.[00:12:01.920]AndaskedifhecouldsitdownandI[00:12:03.640]said,"Sure,youknow."And[00:12:06.160]sohesatatthetablewithmeand[00:12:07.760]started[00:12:09.160]uhtalkingtomeandsaidmyname.[00:12:14.200]AndIsaid,[00:12:15.880]"Howdoyouknowmyname?"[00:12:17.920]Hesaid,"Oh,yourpictureisonthe[00:12:20.960]wallofoneofourcomputerpeople."He[00:12:23.000]said,"Youknow,yo{u}^{\prime }retheonethat[00:12:24.240]knockedoutourcomputersoverin[00:12:25.840]Australia."Yeah.[00:12:29.400]Oh,Idid.[00:12:31.240]So,uh[00:12:32.560]so[00:12:34.200]Iwas[00:12:35.480]flamingmadthatday.[00:12:37.920]>>Clearly.[00:12:39.000]>>Andvery[00:12:39.808]>>[laughter][00:12:41.080]>>Tha{t}^{\prime }swild.Yeah,i{t}^{\prime }sinterestingcuz[00:12:43.560]uhStubbornMindworkswithaguynamed[00:12:45.920]JohnAlexander.Hasalonghistorywith[00:12:47.839]him.Yeah,John.AndAlexanderalways[00:12:50.160]popsupwheretheparanormalis,too,[00:12:53.440]youknow,whenuhJohnHutchisonis[00:12:56.040]gettinghiseffect,youknow,likeyou[00:12:58.000]know,levitatingobjectsinCalifornia.[00:13:00.200]>>Yeah.[00:13:00.440]>>Alexande{r}^{\prime }staskedwithlookingintoit.[00:13:02.839]>>QuiteahostofaPandor{a}^{\prime }sboxof[00:13:04.480]differenttypesofeffectsontheouter[00:13:07.080]edgeof[00:13:08.400]ofthescientificcommunity.[00:13:10.560]>>Inthisremarkableseriesofvideoclips[00:13:13.120]shotbyHutchison,weseewhathappens[00:13:15.600]whenhefine-tunestheelectromagnetic[00:13:17.680]frequenciesaimedattargetobjectsin[00:13:19.920]hisgarage.[00:13:20.920]>>I{t}^{\prime }salmostlikether{e}^{\prime }sthisuhpal[00:13:23.320]paranormalinvestigationsunitwithin[00:13:26.240]themilitary.[00:13:27.040]>>Oh,therehasbeenforalongtime.[00:13:29.160]Yeah,andi{t}^{\prime }sbeen[00:13:31.440]allsubterfugeand,youknow,[00:13:35.080]hush-hushandallthat.But,tha{t}^{\prime }sbeen[00:13:37.240]goingonforalongtime,youknow.[00:13:39.560]>>Howlonghasthatbeengoingonfor?[00:13:41.440]>>IwouldsaysinceWorldWarII.[00:13:43.240]>>Mhm.[00:13:43.760]>>Um[00:13:45.400]whenum[00:13:47.360]IwasinRussianschool[00:13:49.440]inCalifornia.[00:13:51.360]UmMonterey,California.[00:13:53.880]IdidbecomeaRussianlinguist.[00:13:56.600]Umwhichwasmymethodofservice,MOS.[00:14:00.960]UhIwasofficiallyaRussian[00:14:04.360]linguist[00:14:05.720]uminterceptoperator.[00:14:08.440]Uhandwithacaveatoftechnology.[00:14:13.720]Thatwas[00:14:15.000]mymilitaryMOS.[00:14:17.680]Andum[00:14:19.240]oneoftheteachers[00:14:21.240]cameinoneday[00:14:23.360]and[00:14:24.840]saidthatshehadbeen[00:14:27.229]>>[sighsandgasps][00:14:27.800]>>inthe[00:14:29.480]Russian[00:14:30.839]psychic[00:14:32.440]warfareprogram.[00:14:34.839]Andshebroughtmeuhsome[00:14:37.839]um[00:14:39.400]readingmaterialinRussian[00:14:41.960]fromuh[00:14:43.880]Colonel[00:14:44.920]IgorPinkovsky[00:14:47.200]whotriedtodefectfrom[00:14:49.560]fromRussia.[00:14:51.080]Anditsaidthatum[00:14:53.480]AdolfHitlerhadhadaunitcalledDr.[00:14:57.600]GreenbauminGermany.[00:15:00.600]Andum[00:15:02.040]thatitum[00:15:04.520]didmedicalexperimentsontheJewsand[00:15:07.440]allthis.But,onepartofitwasalso[00:15:11.360]umpsychicspying.Whenthe[00:15:16.480]Germanslostthewar,theFrench,[00:15:18.880]English,andtheAmericansdid{n}^{\prime }twant[00:15:22.520]anyofthispsychicstuff,[00:15:24.840]youknow,sotheRussianstookit.[00:15:27.880]Andtheyhaddevelopeditorbythe[00:15:30.280]1960s,[00:15:33.360]wewerelosingclassifiedinformation[00:15:36.120]likecrazy.Andtheycould{n}^{\prime }tfindany[00:15:38.640]groundagents,theycould{n}^{\prime }tfind[00:15:40.200]anybody.[00:15:41.520]Andtha{t}^{\prime }swhenIgorumPenkovskytried[00:15:45.520]todefectandbrought[00:15:47.800]thedocumentationthatsaid[00:15:50.840]theRussianshadbeendoingthat.[00:15:54.120]Everybodyhadalaughaboutthat,[00:15:56.680]buttheintelligenceservicedoes{n}^{\prime }t[00:15:59.360]laugh.[00:16:00.240]>>[laughter][00:16:00.680]>>The{y}^{\prime }relaughinganything.[00:16:02.520]Anduhsotheysaid,[00:16:05.560]"Well,iftheRussianscandothat,[00:16:07.920]le{t}^{\prime }sdoitrightbackatthem."[00:16:10.160]Andsouh[00:16:11.840]theywentoutandhiredum[00:16:14.320]HalPuthoffandRussellTarg,whowere[00:16:16.800]laserphysicist,[00:16:19.160]whohadpublishedapaper[00:16:21.960]showinghowtheintentions[00:16:25.280]oftheresearcher[00:16:28.600]canevenaffectalaserlightbeam.[00:16:32.640]Andyouknow,withthedoubledouble[00:16:34.720]slitdoubleslitexperimentandall[00:16:36.640]that.So,theygavethemtheum[00:16:40.640]uh[00:16:42.120]aninitialcontract.TheycontactedIngo[00:16:45.480]Swann.IngoSwanndevelopedthe[00:16:48.920]methodologycalledcontrolledremote[00:16:51.000]viewing.[00:16:52.440]Theystartedaremoteviewingunit.[00:16:55.240]Andthatunithadbeeninexistence10[00:16:58.080]yearsbeforeIgotthere.[00:17:00.040]>>Wow.[00:17:00.760]>>Yeah.[00:17:01.920]>>AndsoyouprimarilyworkedatFort[00:17:04.360]Meade,isthatright?[00:17:05.520]>>Yeah.Mhm.[00:17:06.480]>>Andyo{u}^{\prime }regoingintoworkandyoujust[00:17:08.720]haveyourfellowpsychicspiesatwork.[00:17:10.959]Anditwhatisitlikeyousitata[00:17:12.280]cubicle,yo{u}^{\prime }regiventargets?[00:17:14.160]>>Tha{t}^{\prime }sit.[00:17:14.680]>>Andyougottogo.[00:17:15.400]>>Yeah.[00:17:16.221]>>[laughter][00:17:16.640]>>Butthetargetsaresometimesworld[00:17:18.720]leaders?[00:17:20.199]>>Oh,usuallyworldleaders,um,[00:17:22.880]theirplansandintentionsfortheday,[00:17:25.400]um,forthenextdayofbattle.[00:17:27.920]Um,[00:17:29.080]SaddamHussein,um,[00:17:32.800]neverstoodachance.[00:17:34.562]>>[laughter][00:17:35.360]>>Weknewwhathewasgoingtodoevery[00:17:36.920]day.Andinfact,youknow,forthe[00:17:39.000]longesttimetheywerelookingfor[00:17:40.400]SaddamHussein,[00:17:42.422]>>[snorts][00:17:42.440]>>weknewexactlywherehewas.Weturned[00:17:44.840]itineveryday.Theyknewwherehewas.[00:17:46.880]>>Didyoueverpersonallyremoteview[00:17:48.520]SaddamHussein?[00:17:51.320]Somethingthatcomesupconstantlywith[00:17:53.240]thewhistleblowersIhaveonthisshow[00:17:55.840]isthattheprivacytoolsmostpeople[00:17:57.920]relyondo{n}^{\prime }tactuallygodeepenough.A[00:18:00.640]VPNmightencryptyourbrowsing,and[00:18:02.880]encryptedmessagingappprotectsyour[00:18:04.640]texts,butyourcarrier,yourcarrier[00:18:07.040]sitsbelowallofthat.Theysee[00:18:08.960]everything.Whoyoucalled,when,from[00:18:11.960]where,andthe{y}^{\prime }renotjustkeepingthe[00:18:13.800]data,the{y}^{\prime }resellingit.Thisisthe[00:18:16.000]lastthingthatanyoneworkingon[00:18:17.720]anythingsensitivewantsintheirlife.[00:18:20.120]Tha{t}^{\prime }swhyIwantedtoworkwithCape.[00:18:22.160]CapeisAmeric{a}^{\prime }sprivacy-firstmobile[00:18:24.520]carrier.Itoffersthesamereliable[00:18:26.800]cellservice,butbuiltfromtheground[00:18:28.920]upwithprivacyastheactualpriority,[00:18:31.840]ratherthananafterthought.Afew[00:18:33.720]thingsaboutCapestoodouttome.Cape[00:18:35.840]automaticallyrotatesyoursubscriber[00:18:37.920]identityevery24hours,soyoulook[00:18:40.320]likeadifferentusertothenetwork[00:18:42.360]everyday.Thismakesitsignificantly[00:18:44.680]harderforanyonetotrackyour[00:18:46.200]movements.Yourcallandtextmetadata[00:18:48.400]getdeletedafter24hours,andthey[00:18:51.000]giveyoutwoadditionalphonenumbers[00:18:52.880]includedinyourplan.Bothofthese[00:18:54.880]numbersareencrypted,andtheyworkfor[00:18:56.760]thingsliketwo-factorauthentication[00:18:58.760]andsign-ups,soyourrealnumberstays[00:19:01.280]protected.Thisisthelayerthatmost[00:19:03.480]privacytoolsca{n}^{\prime }ttouch.Andfor[00:19:05.920]anyoneinthisaudiencewhothinks[00:19:07.360]seriouslyaboutwhohasaccesstotheir[00:19:09.520]communications,i{t}^{\prime }sworthlookingat.[00:19:12.160]UsecodeAmericanAlchemyat[00:19:13.920]cape.co/americanalchemy[00:19:17.040]toget33[00:19:20.800]Again,tha{t}^{\prime }scape.co/americanalchemy.[00:19:24.480]CodeAmericanAlchemy.Get33[00:19:28.400]andprotectyourcommunications.[00:19:32.640]Didyoueverpersonallyremoteview[00:19:34.240]SaddamHussein?[00:19:35.720]>>Almosteveryday.[00:19:37.360]>>Whatwashelike?[00:19:38.760]>>Hewascrazy.[00:19:40.960]>>Howso?[00:19:42.000]>>Hewastotallycrazy.Yeah.[00:19:44.160]Um[00:19:45.160]he100[00:19:50.200]ruletheworld.[00:19:52.480]Andthatuh[00:19:55.000]anybodywho[00:19:57.080]wouldstophimfromrulingtheworld[00:20:00.280]wasofthedevilandhadtobekilled.[00:20:02.880]>>Really?[00:20:03.640]>>Simpleasthat.Yeah.Imean,hewas[00:20:05.560]crazy.[00:20:06.120]>>Delusionsofgrandeur?[00:20:07.480]>>Oh,yeah.[00:20:08.360]>>Thatmakessensebecausewhentherewas[00:20:11.040]allthiskindof[00:20:12.760]chatteraboutIraqhavingWMDs,weapons[00:20:16.400]ofmassdestructionafter9/11,[00:20:18.640]>>Yeah.[00:20:18.880]>>whichwasthisbizarreconflationon[00:20:20.960]behalfoftheAmericanintelligence[00:20:22.440]agencieswherelikeyouhadal-Qaeda,[00:20:25.640]>>Yeah.[00:20:25.960]>>hangingoutinAfghanistanandthenyou[00:20:28.200]hadSaddamwho,youknow,maybethere[00:20:30.200]wasthislikelong-heldgrudgesince[00:20:31.880]DesertStorm,desiretotakehimout.[00:20:34.760]Butlikehewas{n}^{\prime }tconnectedwith9/11.[00:20:36.880]Ifanything,hewasanenemyofOsama[00:20:38.400]binLaden.[00:20:39.280]>>Yeah.[00:20:39.560]>>Buttherewasthisimplicationthathe[00:20:40.840]hadweaponsofmassdestruction.[00:20:42.480]>>Yeah.[00:20:42.880]>>Andhecouldhavesimplysaid,"Ido{n}^{\prime }t[00:20:44.960]haveweaponsofmassdestruction."and[00:20:46.720]heldsome,youknow,largepress[00:20:48.680]conferencetothateffect.Butmaybe[00:20:50.720]thismakessenseinthecontextofhis[00:20:52.400]delusionsofgrandeurkindofpsychology[00:20:55.600]wherehejustcontinuedtograndstand[00:20:57.440]despitenotevenhavingweaponsofmass[00:20:59.520]destruction.[00:20:59.960]>>Hewantedtheworldtobeafraidofhim.[00:21:01.040]>>Yeah.[00:21:01.560]>>Mhm.[00:21:02.520]>>Wasthereanythingelse,[00:21:04.080]Ido{n}^{\prime }tknow,anyotherlikerandom[00:21:05.560]detailsabouthislife?Like[00:21:07.880]didhehave,youknow,didheenjoysome[00:21:09.920]weirdhobbythatlikeyouwould{n}^{\prime }t[00:21:11.440]expect,likefroquetorsomethinglike[00:21:13.480]that?[00:21:13.560]>>Iwasnevertaskedwiththat.[00:21:15.280]>>Okay.[00:21:15.680]>>So,Ineverreallywentintoit.Oneof[00:21:17.880]thethingsaboutthe[00:21:20.320]military,theUSmilitaryremoteviewing[00:21:23.040]effort.[00:21:24.480]Um[00:21:26.040]wewere[00:21:28.040]strictlytoldtoneverusethisfor[00:21:30.760]personalreasons,[00:21:32.760]whichwastotalwasteof[00:21:35.280]anorder.[00:21:36.480]But,uh[00:21:37.880]also[00:21:39.480]andwedidfollowthis.[00:21:42.800]Weweretoldthatitwasa[00:21:47.160]federaloffenseandwewouldgotojail[00:21:50.200]ifweuseditagainstUScitizens.[00:21:55.160]Andthen,thethirdrulewasyouwill[00:21:58.360]useitonlyforwhatwetaskedyouto[00:22:00.600]use.[00:22:01.200]>>Mhm.[00:22:01.840]>>Because,Imean,ourgovernmentwas[00:22:03.880]afraidofus.[00:22:06.040]Cuz,youknow,withtheremoteviewing,[00:22:08.200]ther{e}^{\prime }snomoresecrets.[00:22:10.000]>>CanyouremoteviewtheQcodes?[00:22:12.800]>>I[00:22:13.520]could.I^{\prime }veneverbeentaskedtodoso.[00:22:15.920]>>Tha{t}^{\prime }sscary.And[00:22:18.440]so,what[00:22:19.560]weirdsmeoutaboutremoteviewingisif[00:22:22.640]youcanremoteviewtheQcodesandthen[00:22:24.880]youhavetheseopen-sourceprotocols,[00:22:27.160]IngoSwan{n}^{\prime }s,youknow,teachingson[00:22:29.240]remoteviewingarepublic.Your[00:22:30.560]teachingsonremoteviewingarepublic.[00:22:33.160]>>Wha{t}^{\prime }sstoppingsomerogueAl-Qaeda[00:22:36.960]operativefromdoingthatwithour[00:22:39.520]assets?[00:22:39.840]>>Well,tobetotallyhonest,uh[00:22:43.800]thewhatweteachtothepublic[00:22:47.080]isprobablyabout1/10ofwhatweknow[00:22:50.120]aboutremoteviewing.[00:22:51.200]>>Okay.[00:22:52.120]>>Um[00:22:53.240]ther{e}^{\prime }sumand[00:22:55.080]Ingouh[00:22:57.880]Ingo[00:22:59.280]personallydevelopedupthroughstage[00:23:01.320]18.[00:23:03.480]He[00:23:04.640]offeredtoteachmeupthroughstage11,[00:23:08.160]butatthetimehedid,mywifewas[00:23:11.200]extremelyill,mymotherwasdying,I[00:23:14.280]did{n}^{\prime }tgetachancetogoupthere,[00:23:16.600]andbeforeallthat[00:23:18.520]gotoverandsettled,hehadalready[00:23:21.200]passedaway.So,Ineverlearnedup[00:23:23.600]throughstage11.[00:23:25.200]But,um[00:23:26.280]>>So,therearealotoflevelsand[00:23:28.120]ther{e}^{\prime }srigoroustrainingtogetreally,[00:23:30.440]reallygood.[00:23:31.120]>>Andallweeverteachtothepublicis[00:23:33.120]stageonethroughsix.[00:23:35.120]>>Mhm.[00:23:35.680]>>Yeah.[00:23:36.240]>>Interesting.[00:23:37.000]>>Yeah.[00:23:38.480]>>Well,I^{\prime }malmostwonderinglikeonthe[00:23:40.560]Saddamthing,[00:23:42.080]Ialmostwanttopressonlikeisthere[00:23:43.920]adetailyoucanshare[00:23:46.200]tha{t}^{\prime }scounterintuitive,wherethat,you[00:23:48.200]know,mostpeoplewould{n}^{\prime }tbeableto[00:23:49.680]knowinkindofopen-sourceworld?[00:23:52.120]AndthenIwonderifthatsortof,uh,[00:23:53.920]youknow,allowslike,uh,youknow,[00:23:55.400]somerandomresearcherorsomebodywho[00:23:56.920]knewhim[00:23:57.640]>>Yeah.[00:23:58.040]>>tocomeoutfromthewoodworkandthen[00:24:00.040]reachoutandtheysay,"Oh,yeah,Ican[00:24:01.600]verifythat,youknow,thisissomething[00:24:03.560]aboutit."[00:24:04.280]>>Uh,notthatIcanthinkof.[00:24:06.840]Um[00:24:07.640]wewere,um[00:24:09.600]taskedto[00:24:12.000]uh,remoteviewhisfacilitythathe[00:24:15.400]had,hishisownpersonalfacility.[00:24:18.680]And,um[00:24:20.280]the[clearsthroat]facility,[00:24:22.440]ofcourse,[snorts]hadnoweaponsor[00:24:24.600]anythinglikethat.[00:24:25.906]>>[gasps][00:24:26.320]>>And,um[00:24:28.040]so,[00:24:29.760]forsomereason,[00:24:31.680]whileweweredoingthat,cuzwehadto[00:24:33.360]drawmapsaswell,[00:24:35.440]youknow,accuratemapsofthefacility[00:24:37.520]andofanytargetwedid.[00:24:39.800]And,um[00:24:42.320]therewassomethingaboutthe[00:24:45.200]generators[00:24:46.960]thatgotme.Hehadalittlefacility,[00:24:49.600]hehadhisowngeneratorstopowerthe[00:24:52.480]facilityandallthat,sohewastotally[00:24:54.440]offgrid.[00:24:55.880]Andtherewassomethingaboutthat,and[00:24:57.560]so[00:24:58.640]I[00:25:00.440]mentallywentin,youknow,queuedto[00:25:02.920]moveinsidethefacilityinsidethat[00:25:05.520]building[00:25:06.840]anddescribe.[00:25:09.600]Andoneofthosegeneratorsjustseemed[00:25:13.040]wrong.[00:25:17.000]AndIcould{n}^{\prime }tfigureoutwhy,andso[00:25:20.080]Ijustfocusedinonthatonegenerator,[00:25:22.640]foundoutthatitwashollow[00:25:24.920]andititwouldtiltback,andwhenit[00:25:27.560]tiltedback,therewerestepsgoingdown[00:25:30.200]intoaweaponsbunkerthatyouwould{n}^{\prime }t[00:25:32.760]believe.[00:25:33.720]>>Wow.[00:25:34.320]>>Imean,aweaponsbunkerthatwas[00:25:37.160]thatwasstockedfully.[00:25:39.920]>>So,likeatrapdoor?[00:25:41.200]>>Itwaslikeaitwaslikeafalsedoor,[00:25:43.400]yeah.[00:25:43.760]>>Whatsortofweapons?[00:25:44.800]>>Uhtheyhadeverything.Theyhad[00:25:46.200]rockets,theyhaduhlasers,theyhad[00:25:49.880]youknow,bombs,[00:25:51.640]uh[00:25:51.960]>>So,theydidhaveartillery.Theydid[00:25:53.720]haveanarsenal.[00:25:55.160]>>Oh,theyhadanarsenal.[00:25:56.360]>>Butno,[00:25:57.120]>>Hehadanarsenalonhis[00:25:59.600]onhisprivateplace.[00:26:01.000]>>Thatmakessense.[00:26:01.920]>>Yeah,itwasunderthere.[00:26:03.240]>>Tha{t}^{\prime }swild.[00:26:04.120]>>Yeah.[00:26:04.520]>>Butnonukes.[00:26:06.000]Obviously.[00:26:06.960]>>Idid{n}^{\prime }tuh[00:26:08.920]Iwasjustseeingthephysicalthings,[00:26:11.040]soIdo{n}^{\prime }tknow.[00:26:11.720]>>So,hejusthadallthesesortofcrazy[00:26:13.880]armaments.[00:26:14.600]>>Oh,yeah.[00:26:15.120]>>Forhisownlittlecompound,yeah.[00:26:16.840]Probablybigcompound.[00:26:17.960]>>Yeah.[00:26:18.568]>>[laughter][00:26:18.720]>>Fascinating.[00:26:19.600]>>Yeah.[00:26:20.360]>>Interesting.So,umyouarethe[00:26:22.560]inspirationforCassidyinTheMenWho[00:26:25.520]StaredatGoats.[00:26:26.520]>>Yeah.[00:26:27.080]>>Andinthemovie,hestopsagoa{t}^{\prime }s[00:26:30.080]heart.Hekillsagoat.[00:26:32.000]>>Inthemovie,hedid.[00:26:33.560]>>Didyoueverkillagoat?[00:26:35.200]>>Idid{n}^{\prime }tdothat.Thatwasanother[00:26:37.240]sergeant,anditactuallyhappened.[00:26:39.680]>>Noway.[00:26:40.440]>>ButIdid{n}^{\prime }tdoit.[00:26:41.640]>>Youwould{n}^{\prime }thavedonethat.[00:26:42.640]>>is,youinthemovie[00:26:44.680]>>Mhm.[00:26:44.960]>>youseehimleavinginthehelicopter.[00:26:46.680]>>Mhm.[00:26:47.400]>>Fromwhat{I}^{\prime }veheard[00:26:49.840]uh[00:26:51.600]theguywhodiddidkillthegoat[00:26:54.920]experienceddyingwiththegoat.[00:26:57.760]>>Wow.[00:26:59.240]>>Anditupsethimsomuch[00:27:02.560]thatintheendhestoleahelicopter[00:27:05.680]anddisappearedandtheyhave{n}^{\prime }tlooked[00:27:07.440]forhimsince.[00:27:08.200]>>Noway.[00:27:09.240]>>AndwhathedidwiththehelicopterI[00:27:10.960]do{n}^{\prime }tknow.[00:27:12.120]Andbuttheysaidh{e}^{\prime }sdisappearedand[00:27:14.320]theyhave{n}^{\prime }tlookedforhim.[00:27:16.000]>>Sotheguykilledthegoat,feltsortof[00:27:17.840]somesortofsymbioticdoublingof[00:27:20.720]feelingwiththegoat,wentthroughhis[00:27:21.960]owndeath.[00:27:22.640]>>withhim,youknow.[00:27:23.680]>>Andthengotsopsychologically[00:27:25.640]disturbedthathestoleahelicopterand[00:27:28.160]wasneverseenagain.[00:27:29.160]>>Tha{t}^{\prime }sthestorythatIhearfromthe[00:27:31.720]GreatPyramid.[00:27:32.400]>>Whowasthisguy?[00:27:33.600]>>Oh,hewasjustoneofthesergeants[00:27:36.120]thatwasintheFirstEarthBattalion.[00:27:38.080]>>Wow.[00:27:38.920]>>Uhtheyweredoingallkindsofstuff[00:27:40.520]likethat.[00:27:41.040]>>Doyourememberanybodylikedidhehave[00:27:42.960]abossor[00:27:44.760]>>JimChannon,yeah.[00:27:45.760]>>JimChannonwasthisgu{y}^{\prime }sboss.[00:27:47.840]>>Wow.[00:27:48.440]>>Iknowhowtodoit.[00:27:51.040]Anduh[00:27:52.400]Iwo{n}^{\prime }tteachittoanybody.[00:27:54.600]>>Tha{t}^{\prime }sascaryprospect.Soyouthink[00:27:56.760]teamsofremoteviewerscanliterally[00:27:58.680]killotherpeopleandanimals.[00:28:02.200]>>remoteviewercan.[00:28:03.280]>>Asingleremoteviewercan.[00:28:04.520]>>Andthescarypartis[00:28:07.400]itissoeasytodo.[00:28:11.040]>>Sotha{t}^{\prime }sfreakyfirstofall.[00:28:13.840]>>Yeah.[00:28:14.200]>>Secondofall,I^{\prime }msuretherearea[00:28:16.680]wholehostofskepticsouttherewhoare[00:28:18.440]sayingwhyarenotworldleaders[00:28:21.240]droppinglikeflies,[00:28:23.080]youknow?[00:28:23.680]>>Well,becauseyou[00:28:26.960]youknow,[00:28:30.320]whyareworldleadersdroppinglike[00:28:32.160]flies,okay?[00:28:33.680]Becauseweknowwhattheywant,weknow[00:28:36.880]whatthe{y}^{\prime }regoingtodoandallthat.[00:28:39.040]Youdroponeofthem,yougetanunknown[00:28:41.360]in.[00:28:42.680]>>Mhm.[00:28:43.720]>>Andyouhavetostartallover.The[00:28:45.120]intelligenceserviceshavetostartall[00:28:47.120]over.No,youwanttokeepthem.[00:28:50.040]>>So,youthinkifsomebodygetsoutof[00:28:52.120]handenough,likeifyouweretoreplay[00:28:54.320]WorldWarII,[00:28:55.960]>>Yeah.[00:28:56.240]>>presumablyif,youknow,theallieshad[00:28:58.600]thiscapability,[00:29:00.640]by1941ortwo,theywouldhaveremote[00:29:04.560]viewedtriedtokillHitler.[00:29:08.080]>>Oh,yeah.AndHitlerwasalreadyworking[00:29:11.160]onthis.[00:29:12.400]UmUhtheRussians,aftertheygotall[00:29:15.240]ofthis,[00:29:16.360]hadawomannamedNinaKulagina,[00:29:19.080]whowasstoppingtheheartsofratsand[00:29:21.160]rabbitsandthingslikethat.[00:29:23.320]Anduhwoundupdyingofaheartattack,[00:29:26.000]bytheway.[00:29:27.080]Butuhshewasalreadyworkingonthat.[00:29:29.800]TheRussianswereworkingonit[00:29:32.520]touh[00:29:34.240]havetheirtroopsbeabletolookacross[00:29:37.200]thebattlefieldand[00:29:40.440]killtheirenemiesbystoppingtheir[00:29:42.000]hearts.[00:29:43.040]>>Yourealizethis[00:29:44.960]takesmutuallyassureddestructiontoa[00:29:46.760]wholenewlevel.[00:29:47.720]>>Oh,yeah.[00:29:48.240]>>Goeswellbeyondnuclearcapabilities.[00:29:51.480]>>Yeah.Mhm.[00:29:52.640]>>I{t}^{\prime }ssocrazy.So,i{t}^{\prime }salmostlike[00:29:56.120]theworl{d}^{\prime }sprettylockeddownona[00:29:58.360]go-forwardbasis.Ifyoucandothisat[00:30:00.200]will,i{t}^{\prime }snotjustnukes.I{t}^{\prime }s,you[00:30:03.120]know,[00:30:04.840]wemighthavepandemics,wemighthave[00:30:06.640]sortofasymmetric,youknow,bizarre[00:30:09.080]attacks,which,youknow,areare[00:30:11.080]horriblydestructive.[00:30:13.000]Buttheideaofall-outwarseemspretty[00:30:15.840]hardifyoucanjustatwilldecapitate,[00:30:18.920]youknow,youryourenemies.[00:30:20.240]>>Well,yeah.Andititalreadyis.You[00:30:22.520]know,thethingis,um[00:30:24.720]wedo{n}^{\prime }tneedtanksandairplanesatall[00:30:27.080]anymore.[00:30:28.480]Uhwecanchangetheweatheranywherein[00:30:31.120]theworld.TheRussianshaveearthquake[00:30:33.440]weapons.[00:30:34.800]Theycancauseanearthquakeat[00:30:36.200]Yellowstonetha{t}^{\prime }llwipeoutthecenter[00:30:38.080]US.[00:30:39.360]Umifthey[00:30:41.960]causeanearthquakeonLaPalmaIsland[00:30:46.080]tha{t}^{\prime }sstrongenough,[00:30:48.000]thesideofthatvolcanoisalready[00:30:50.080]splitoff5ft.[00:30:52.440]Ifitfallsintotheocean,i{t}^{\prime }sfacing[00:30:55.360]theUS.[00:30:56.800]Ifitfallsintotheocean,15cubic[00:30:59.800]kilometers[00:31:02.080]of[00:31:03.120]oflandwillhittheoceanallatonce.[00:31:06.560]AndtheUSGeologicalSurveyhas[00:31:09.480]predicted[00:31:10.960]thatthatwouldcauseatsunamithatin[00:31:13.960]someplaceswouldwipeoutupto26[00:31:17.360]milesinlandonthe[00:31:19.160]EastUScoast.[00:31:21.760]Tha{t}^{\prime }salreadyknownbytheUS[00:31:23.240]GeologicalSurvey.[00:31:24.840]>>Areyouworriedaboutthat?[00:31:26.240]>>I^{\prime }mnot.Thingslikethatum[00:31:30.080]wouldbesodisastrousthatIdo{n}^{\prime }t[00:31:32.480]thinkanycountrywantsit.[00:31:33.920]>>Mhm.[00:31:34.720]>>Anduh[00:31:36.320]andlikeIsay,mutualdestruction.They[00:31:39.800]dothattous,w{e}^{\prime }lldestroythem.And[00:31:43.600]no,Ido{n}^{\prime }tIdo{n}^{\prime }tthinki{t}^{\prime }sathing,[00:31:45.720]but[00:31:47.000]thewholethingisthatnowwarisjust[00:31:51.440]amoney-makingthing.[00:31:53.280]>>Mhm.[00:31:54.280]>>Itreallyis.[00:31:55.200]>>Mhm.[00:31:56.240]>>UmImean[00:31:57.880]youwefighteachother[00:32:00.640]becauseoftheweaponswehave.Whynot[00:32:03.200]takeouttheweaponsmanufacturers?[00:32:06.480]>>Mhm.[00:32:07.600]>>Wedo{n}^{\prime }tdothat.Ther{e}^{\prime }stoomuchmoney[00:32:09.680]involved.[00:32:10.440]>>Mhm.Iwanttogetintothelogical[00:32:13.000]conclusionsofwhatyo{u}^{\prime }resaying[00:32:14.240]because[00:32:14.960]>>Mhm.[00:32:15.560]>>thismeansadvancementinremoteviewing[00:32:18.120]issortofadvancementinyourability[00:32:19.880]tosortofcontroltheworld,youknow,[00:32:21.760]geopoliticallandscape.Because{I}^{\prime }ll[00:32:24.240]lookatsomebodylike,youknow,Trump[00:32:26.480]orKimJong-unorsomeoftheseleaders,[00:32:29.200]theymightbemorepredictablethan[00:32:30.840]theirdetractorssay.Youknow,their[00:32:32.360]detractorssay,"Oh,the{y}^{\prime }recompletely[00:32:33.720]irrational.The{y}^{\prime }recrazy.Whatever."[00:32:35.400]Maybethe{y}^{\prime }remorerationalthanwe[00:32:37.240]think.[00:32:38.320]But[00:32:39.240]>>Mhm.[00:32:40.320]>>Trumpkindofshootsfromthehip.You[00:32:42.440]know,Ithinksomeoftheseother[00:32:43.480]leadersattimesDoyouthink?Right?[00:32:46.080]Youknow,theykindofgoonthese[00:32:47.280]littleyouknow,escapadesand[00:32:49.520]adventuresandandandandactin[00:32:52.080]discretionaryways.The{y}^{\prime }renotjust[00:32:53.840]extensionsofthebureaucracy.[00:32:56.040]Andso,totheextent[00:32:58.640]thatgetsoutofhandforanypartythat[00:33:01.840]knowshowtodothisremoteviewing[00:33:03.480]technique,theycanjustsortof[00:33:06.920]actoutagainstthat.Imean,cuzthat[00:33:08.960]tha{t}^{\prime }sascaryprospect.[00:33:11.040]Isthereadefenseagainstthat?[00:33:12.160]>>talkedtothis[00:33:14.040]talkedaboutthistoanybody.Imayas[00:33:16.200]welldoitnow.Okay?[00:33:18.880]UmIhavebeen[00:33:21.480]in-depthremoteviewingthis.[00:33:24.323]>>[gasps][00:33:25.000]>>Um[00:33:28.120]DoyouknowthetermOWOG?[00:33:30.400]>>No.[00:33:31.360]>>OWOG,OneWorldOneGovernment.[00:33:37.120]W{e}^{\prime }regoingintospace.[00:33:39.800]Okay?[00:33:42.280]And[00:33:44.000]manyofthe[00:33:46.680]beingsthatarealreadyoutthere[00:33:49.160]do{n}^{\prime }twantusouttherethewayweare.[00:33:52.640]Andatsomepoint[00:33:55.640]whenwegetintospace,w{e}^{\prime }regoingto[00:33:57.760]havetohaveoneworld[00:34:00.360]onegovernmenttoatleastsomeextent.[00:34:04.120]Andifonecountrydestroysanother[00:34:08.240]then[00:34:10.560]itblocksthat.[00:34:13.520]Anduh[00:34:16.840]fromwhat{I}^{\prime }mfinding[00:34:19.240]thepowersthat[00:34:20.879]actuallyarebehindthegovernmentsand[00:34:23.840]runthegovernments[00:34:25.840]uhwantustohaveoneworldone[00:34:28.360]governmenttoprepareusforspace.[00:34:31.399]>>Whoarethepowersthatarebehindthe[00:34:33.200]government?[00:34:33.840]>>IwishIknew.[00:34:35.280]>>Butyouareconvinced[00:34:36.440]>>IifIknewIwould{n}^{\prime }tsay.[00:34:38.760]The{y}^{\prime }dbumpmeoffrealquick.[00:34:40.760]>>Ithinktha{t}^{\prime }sprobablytherightthe[00:34:42.280]rightmove.Butyo{u}^{\prime }reconvincedthat[00:34:44.639]ourcivilianleadersarenotthatthe[00:34:46.760]front-facingleadersthatweseearenot[00:34:49.200]thetruepoweringovernment.[00:34:50.560]>>therethough,youknow,[00:34:52.360]thethemanbehindthecurtain.Tha{t}^{\prime }s[00:34:55.600]youknow,likeinTheWizardofOz.[00:34:57.640]Yeah,tha{t}^{\prime }s[00:34:59.000]>>Andi{t}^{\prime }snotjusti{t}^{\prime }si{t}^{\prime }sanactual[00:35:01.960]WizardofOzor[00:35:04.880]amechanicalTurktouseanotherterm.[00:35:07.760]>>Uh-uh.[00:35:08.080]>>I{t}^{\prime }snotOkay,buti{t}^{\prime }snoti{t}^{\prime }sWhat[00:35:09.960]yo{u}^{\prime }resayingisi{t}^{\prime }snotjustabunch[00:35:11.560]ofguysinbureauyouknow,bureaucratic[00:35:14.280]positionswhoarelifelong[00:35:16.520]politicians.[00:35:17.640]>>no,no.[00:35:17.840]>>I{t}^{\prime }si{t}^{\prime }si{t}^{\prime }saavitalgroupthatlike[00:35:20.840]hasdeliberateintentions[00:35:23.520]>>Theyjustorganizingeverything,you[00:35:25.320]know.[00:35:26.200]Youknow.[00:35:26.520]>>Solikeaatruedeepstate.[00:35:28.760]>>Atruedeepstate,yeah.Anditexists.[00:35:31.800]Butum[00:35:33.880]uh[00:35:36.080]youknow,[00:35:37.080]>>Whatmakesyouconvincedofthat?[00:35:40.560]Iwanttotakeamomenttothankoneof[00:35:42.320]toda{y}^{\prime }ssponsors,ZBiotics.I^{\prime }vebeen[00:35:45.440]usingtheirpre-alcoholproductfor[00:35:47.600]years.Andwhentheopportunitycameup[00:35:50.080]toworkwiththem,Ijumpedatit[00:35:51.800]becausei{t}^{\prime }soneofthefewthingsI[00:35:53.520]actuallydrinkbeforeanightoutwith[00:35:55.600]friendswheni{t}^{\prime }stimetocelebratea[00:35:57.440]specialevent.Andthatlittledecision[00:35:59.760]ImakebeforeIgooutchanges[00:36:01.920]everything.ZBioticspre-alcohol[00:36:04.680]probioticdrinkistheworl{d}^{\prime }sfirst[00:36:07.480]geneticallyengineeredprobiotic.Itwas[00:36:10.480]inventedbyPhDscientiststo[00:36:13.080]specificallytackleroughmorningsafter[00:36:15.480]drinking.Her{e}^{\prime }showitworks.Whenyou[00:36:18.200]drink,alcoholgetsconvertedintoa[00:36:20.520]toxicbyproductinthegut.I{t}^{\prime }sa[00:36:22.880]build-upofthisbyproduct,not[00:36:25.320]dehydration,tha{t}^{\prime }stoblameforthe[00:36:27.520]roughdaysafterdrinking.Pre-alcohol[00:36:30.040]producesanenzymetobreakthis[00:36:32.160]byproductdown.Justremembertomake[00:36:34.600]Pre-alcoholyourfirstdrinkofthe[00:36:36.440]night.Ofcourse,drinkresponsibly,and[00:36:39.000]yo{u}^{\prime }llfeelyourbesttomorrow.Ihave[00:36:41.240]ZBioticsbeforemyfirstdrinkofthe[00:36:43.480]night,andIwakeupfeelingtotally[00:36:45.600]normalthenextmorning.Asyo{u}^{\prime }llknow,[00:36:47.960]ifyo{u}^{\prime }reolderthansaytheageof28[00:36:50.320]or29,isnotusual.So,goto[00:36:53.080]zbiotics.com/jessie[00:36:55.840]tolearnmoreandget15[00:36:58.880]orderwhenyouuseJessieatcheckout.[00:37:02.120]ZBioticsisalsobackedwitha100[00:37:05.400]money-backguarantee.So,ifyo{u}^{\prime }re[00:37:07.680]unsatisfiedforanyreason,the{y}^{\prime }ll[00:37:09.920]refundyourmoney,noquestionsasked.[00:37:13.080]Remembertoheadtozbiotics.com/jessie[00:37:16.680]andusethecodeJessieatcheckoutfor[00:37:19.080]15[00:37:22.640]>>Whatmakesyouconvincedofthat?[00:37:24.840]>>Theviewingthat{I}^{\prime }vedone.[00:37:26.840]Um[00:37:28.280]and[00:37:29.600]>>Theymustbecuz[00:37:31.800]theymustbemoreadvancedatthe[00:37:34.120]psychicstuff.ThathastobethewayI[00:37:36.120]mean,ifthepsychicstuffistrue.So,[00:37:38.280]likele{t}^{\prime }sjustassumethatitis.I[00:37:40.280]thinkitis,buttherearepeopleout[00:37:41.800]therethatdo{n}^{\prime }t.Le{t}^{\prime }sjustassumethat[00:37:43.040]itis.Iknowyo{u}^{\prime }velivedit.Yo{u}^{\prime }reso[00:37:44.960]farpastthatdebate.But,le{t}^{\prime }sassume[00:37:47.160]thattha{t}^{\prime }strue.[00:37:48.800]IthinkIIIlovehowsohowmany[00:37:50.120]peoplehearthati{t}^{\prime }strueandthenthey[00:37:51.840]stopthere.[00:37:52.840]>>Oh,yeah.[00:37:53.200]>>Thelogicalconclusionofthepsychic[00:37:55.400]stuffbeingtrueisaverydifferent[00:37:58.000]stratificationofsocietyitself.I{t}^{\prime }sa[00:38:00.200]differentsocialhierarchy,andi{t}^{\prime }s[00:38:02.200]basicallythepeoplewhoaremost[00:38:03.520]advancedinthisstuffhavetohavethe[00:38:06.280]Archimedesleverofcontrol.[00:38:08.120]>>Yeah.Letmedivertthiswhole[00:38:10.880]conversationheretothat.[00:38:13.400]Uh[00:38:14.680]whenumtheystarted[00:38:17.840]theresearchonremoteviewing,[00:38:21.160]whattheydidwastheywouldtakeyour[00:38:23.000]completesessionandseehowaccurateit[00:38:25.440]was.[00:38:27.760]Whatwefoundoutwasthateverybodyhas[00:38:31.080]strengthsandweaknesses.[00:38:33.120]Andsooneperson[00:38:35.560]maygetthecolorrightallthetime.[00:38:40.240]Andcould{n}^{\prime }ttellyoutheshapeof[00:38:41.920]somethingif,youknow,[00:38:43.920]uhififtheyhadto.[00:38:46.880]OtherpersonOtherpersonwillgetthe[00:38:48.640]shape[00:38:49.720]butnotrelationshipsorsoundsor[00:38:52.440]somethinglikethat.[00:38:54.120]Andsoeverybodyhasstrengthsand[00:38:55.760]weaknesses.SowhenIstarted[00:38:59.120]what[00:39:01.560]30yearsago[00:39:03.080]wasadatabasethat{I}^{\prime }vekepteversince[00:39:06.480]ofviewer{s}^{\prime }work.Andweactuallygo[00:39:09.600]through[00:39:10.840]perceptionbyperceptionbyperception[00:39:14.752]>>[gasps][00:39:15.560]>>judgingitagainstthefeedback.[00:39:18.240]Ifyouhavethepolicecomeandthey[00:39:21.120]say,"Well,describethe[00:39:24.160]describethegetawaycar."[00:39:26.120]Youneedtoknowtheshape,theage,and[00:39:28.680]allthatofthegetawaycar.[00:39:30.960]Iwilllookinthedatabase[00:39:33.120]andsay,"Whoisalwaysrightatcolor?"[00:39:38.040]Uh[00:39:39.120]nowthen,[00:39:40.200]"Whoisalwaysrightat[00:39:42.800]drawingapattern?"[00:39:45.160]Uh[00:39:46.440]taskhimwithalicenseplate.[00:39:49.000]"Wh{o}^{\prime }salwaysrightattheshapeofthe[00:39:52.240]ofanobject?"[00:39:54.040]Uhdrawmethecar.[00:39:56.680]Youknow?[00:39:57.720]Andandandsoon.Andbydoingthis[00:40:01.520]wecantakethe[00:40:04.240]uhwecantake[00:40:06.280]10remoteviewerswhohaveanoverall[00:40:09.600]averageof70[00:40:13.360]themonlywithwhatthe{y}^{\prime }rebestat[00:40:17.040]wecanturn95[00:40:20.360]customer.[00:40:22.040]Anduhdoingitthatway.[00:40:24.480]Uhbutuh[00:40:26.640]tha{t}^{\prime }s[00:40:28.080]tonsofwork.[00:40:29.920]Andthatinitself[00:40:33.400]hasturnedintothe[00:40:36.920]proof.[00:40:38.320]Cuzyouknow,usedtotheywouldsay,[00:40:40.600]"Showmeyourproof."[00:40:42.200]Nowtheysay,"Showmeyourdata."[00:40:45.360]Andw{e}^{\prime }vegotthedata.[00:40:48.418]>>[laughter][00:40:49.040]>>AndAndsothatwindsupbeingtheproof[00:40:53.720]oftheefficacyof[00:40:56.120]thecontrolledremoteviewing.[00:40:57.600]>>Wha{t}^{\prime }syourbiggeststrength?[00:40:59.640]>>Mybiggeststrengthactuallyis[00:41:01.400]accessingpeoplementally.[00:41:03.720]>>Mhm.[00:41:04.920]Couldyouaccessmementallyrightnow?[00:41:07.160]>>Uhwould{n}^{\prime }t.[00:41:08.723]>>[laughter][00:41:09.120]>>I^{\prime }dbefinewithit.[00:41:10.400]>>No.Uh[00:41:12.120]um[00:41:13.760]Iamonretention.[00:41:16.280]>>Uh-huh.[00:41:17.080]>>I^{\prime }mnot[00:41:19.040]officiallyretired.I^{\prime }monretention.[00:41:21.160]>>Uh-huh.[00:41:21.800]>>Andasfaras{I}^{\prime }mconcerned,um[00:41:25.320]presidentialorder12333stillapplies[00:41:28.520]tome.[00:41:29.840]>>Mhm.[00:41:30.920]>>Idonot[00:41:32.800]access[00:41:34.360]UScitizens,period.[00:41:36.960]>>Yeah.Cool.[00:41:38.160]>>doit.[00:41:38.720]>>Nice.Well,well,Iguesswewere[00:41:40.840]gettingintothisstuff[00:41:42.560]cuzI{I}^{\prime }mabelieverinparapsychology[00:41:45.400]remoteviewing.[00:41:46.360]>>Yeah.[00:41:47.040]>>ButIthinkveryfewpeoplegetinto[00:41:49.480]whatthatmeansforwhatsociety[00:41:52.200]actuallylookslikeandhowi{t}^{\prime }sbuilt.[00:41:54.400]>>Oh,yeah.[00:41:55.480]>>Becauseifsomebodyhassomesortof[00:41:57.360]vitalteamtha{t}^{\prime }sextremelylike[00:41:59.440]elite-levelskilledatthesesortsof[00:42:01.720]things,youcandoalot.[00:42:04.520]>>Yeah.[00:42:05.054]>>[laughter][00:42:05.480]>>Andsolikei{t}^{\prime }sfunnyto[00:42:08.400]>>understatement.Yeah.[00:42:09.320]>>Yeah,right.Yeah,[00:42:11.480]itisaBritishunderstatement.SoIyou[00:42:13.720]know,Ihearyousaying[00:42:16.040]becauseofyourremoteviewingwork[00:42:17.440]yo{u}^{\prime }reconvincedinadeepstate.I[00:42:19.840]wouldassumethedeepstatewouldhave[00:42:21.800]tobelikeevenmoreskilledandbetter[00:42:24.640]atthesesortsofthings,right?Then[00:42:26.880]like[00:42:27.520]>>No.[00:42:28.080]>>No?[00:42:28.560]>>No.[00:42:29.600]>>Sowhatwhataretheybetterat?Like[00:42:32.200]>>wha{t}^{\prime }s[00:42:33.360]The{y}^{\prime }reincontrol.Theydecidewha{t}^{\prime }s[00:42:34.800]goingtohappen.[00:42:35.920]>>Yeah.[00:42:36.360]>>Butifyouhavelikeultimateleverage[00:42:38.400]overlikepsychicabilities,yo{u}^{\prime }rein[00:42:40.880]controlnomatterwhat,right?Like[00:42:42.720]>>Andtheydo{n}^{\prime }tneedthat.[00:42:43.960]>>Whydo{n}^{\prime }ttheyneedthat?[00:42:45.120]>>Becausethe{y}^{\prime }reincontrol.Whatdothey[00:42:46.840]needitfor?Theygetsomebodywhocan[00:42:48.280]doit.[00:42:48.840]>>Could{n}^{\prime }tyoustopthem[00:42:50.720]becauseyo{u}^{\prime }re,youknow,psychicand[00:42:53.320]youhavelikeateamtha{t}^{\prime }spsychic?[00:42:54.600]>>attack.[00:42:56.320]Youdo{n}^{\prime }tYoudo{n}^{\prime }tattackagorilla.[00:42:58.764]>>[laughter][00:43:00.800]>>Oh.Yeah.Yeah.[00:43:03.520]No,[00:43:04.600]ther{e}^{\prime }sself-preservationinvolvedhere.[00:43:08.240]>>YoumentionedIngoSwann.[00:43:09.680]>>Yeah.[00:43:10.240]>>IngoSwannuhisalegendaryremote[00:43:12.560]viewer,longdeceased,butheuhisjust[00:43:16.600]hasanincrediblestoryandhewrotea[00:43:18.360]bookcalledPenetrationwherehetalks[00:43:20.840]aboutuhremoteviewingthedarksideof[00:43:23.560]themoon.[00:43:24.240]>>Yeah,andactualroadandallthat,[00:43:26.160]yeah.[00:43:26.440]>>Yeah,andbeingalmostabductedbywhat[00:43:29.360]appearstobelikealegacyUFOprogram,[00:43:32.000]takenunderground.[00:43:33.760]>>Uhreallyincrediblestory.[00:43:37.120]Doyouthinkallofthathappenedanddo[00:43:38.920]youthinkheactuallyremoteviewed[00:43:40.520]alienbasesonthedarksideofthe[00:43:42.040]moon?[00:43:42.640]>>Yeah.Mhm.[00:43:43.880]>>Really?[00:43:44.560]>>Yeah.[00:43:45.360]>>Andwhatgivesyouconviction?[00:43:46.600]>>thatcertainaboutthedetailsofthe[00:43:49.120]actualroadstory,buttheuh[00:43:52.200]basesonthemoon,yeah.The{y}^{\prime }rethere.[00:43:54.440][clearsthroat][00:43:55.200]>>Haveyoueverremoteviewed[00:43:56.480]>>Oh,yeah.[00:43:57.160]>>alienbases?[00:43:58.040]>>Yeah.[00:43:59.080]>>Andwhatdidyousee?[00:44:00.600]>>Um[00:44:01.560]basicallywhattheyweredoinganduh[00:44:04.800]and[00:44:06.360]theirlocationandthingslikethat.You[00:44:08.360]know,the{y}^{\prime }rethere,but[00:44:10.160]the{y}^{\prime }renotthere[00:44:11.600]onlythereonthemoon,the{y}^{\prime }reonother[00:44:13.200]places,too,ofcourse.[00:44:14.600]>>Whatweretheydoing?[00:44:15.960]>>Basically,whatIgotformostofthem[00:44:18.960]wasminerals.[00:44:21.600]The{y}^{\prime }rejustinterestedinminerals.[00:44:24.000]Uhnothing[00:44:26.480]noskulduggeryoranythinglikethat,[00:44:28.560]nothing,[00:44:29.960]youknow.[00:44:30.640]>>Isthemoonanartificialobjectuh[00:44:33.360]sentheretomonitorEarth?[00:44:35.520]>>Ido{n}^{\prime }tbelieveso.[00:44:36.720]>>Okay.[00:44:37.670]>>[laughter][00:44:37.960]>>So,the{y}^{\prime }rejustminingmineralsonthe[00:44:39.480]moon?[00:44:40.160]>>Tha{t}^{\prime }swhatIgot.[00:44:41.720]>>Mhm.[00:44:42.040]>>Yeah.[00:44:42.440]>>Mhm.Interesting.Whatsortsofaliens[00:44:45.800]wereupthere?[00:44:46.960]>>I[00:44:48.960]did{n}^{\prime }tgointothat.No,the[00:44:52.120]alienbases,thefourmajoralienbases[00:44:56.240]ontheEarth,Ididthoseinin-depth,[00:45:00.040]butum[00:45:01.920]the[00:45:03.160]theonesonthemoon,Iwasjusttasked,[00:45:06.080]youknow,wha{t}^{\prime }sgoingon,whereare[00:45:07.480]they,wha{t}^{\prime }sitlooklike,andallthat.[00:45:10.000]So.Yeah,thisiswhatIwastaskedto[00:45:12.160]do.[00:45:12.680]>>ThisisProject8200,right,wherePat[00:45:15.440]Pricehadseenfour[00:45:17.560]>>sawuhthefouralienbases.[00:45:20.440]Andum[00:45:22.200]theydidProject80200[00:45:26.640]beforeIgotthere.[00:45:28.360]However,afterIgotthere,[00:45:30.640]umSkipAtwaterwas[00:45:34.400]havingusdothosesortoftokeeptrack[00:45:37.960]ofwha{t}^{\prime }sgoingonatthoseasastime[00:45:41.920]goeson.[00:45:43.080]TheuhoneinMountHayes,Alaska,[00:45:47.240]um[00:45:49.160]PatPriceandJimMcMonaglehadfoundum[00:45:53.840]aliensand[00:45:56.000]andhumansworkingsidebyside[00:45:58.680]assortofanintelligencegathering[00:46:01.200]place.[00:46:02.520]Anduh[00:46:04.240]yearslaterwhenIgotthere,[00:46:06.920]umIdidMountHayesandfoundoutthat[00:46:09.840]theequipmentwasnowautomated[00:46:13.240]andstillrunning.[00:46:15.320]Butthereisnoneedforpersonnel[00:46:17.240]there,soitwasbasicallykindofempty[00:46:20.160]ofpeople.[00:46:21.280]>>Andwhatwasthepurposeofit?[00:46:23.400]>>Um[00:46:24.560]keepingintelligenceontheUS,Imean[00:46:26.960]ontheontheearth.Umjustcollecting[00:46:30.320]dataand[00:46:32.800]signalsandandallthat.[00:46:35.760]>>Whatwouldhappentomeoranaverage[00:46:38.640]civilianifwejustwenttoMountHayes[00:46:40.360]rightnowandtriedtocheckthisout?[00:46:42.480]>>get[00:46:43.760]lostandfrozen.[00:46:46.052]>>[laughter][00:46:46.720]>>Imeanjusti{t}^{\prime }sallright.I{t}^{\prime }s[00:46:48.360]constantlyundersnow,youknow,andI[00:46:51.120]doubtyo{u}^{\prime }dfindyourwayin.[00:46:53.280]>>Mhm.So,ther{e}^{\prime }ssomethingontheinside[00:46:55.240]ofthemountain.[00:46:56.120]>>Oh,i{t}^{\prime }sinsidethemountain,yeah.[00:46:57.520]>>Mhm.[00:46:58.400]So,similartoliketheCheyenne[00:47:00.400]MountainComplex[00:47:01.600]>>Yeah.[00:47:01.760]>>whenitcomestotheAmerican[00:47:02.800]government.[00:47:03.480]>>Yeah.[00:47:04.800]>>AnddoUFOsflyinandout?[00:47:08.560]>>Idid{n}^{\prime }tgetthat.No.Andneitherdid[00:47:11.280]JoeororPatPrice.Now,wheretheyfly[00:47:14.680]inandoutisinum[00:47:17.080]MountuhZeal[00:47:19.520]innorthernumAustralia.[00:47:24.360]Anduh[00:47:26.160]see,Ididalltheseblind.[00:47:28.360]>>Mhm.[00:47:28.880]>>Justyouknow,likeeverybodyelse.And[00:47:32.400]um[00:47:33.560]um[00:47:35.280]thesketchesthatIdrew,[00:47:37.640]ImeanmatchedPatPric{e}^{\prime }s[00:47:40.200]downtothemeasurementsandeverything[00:47:41.960]else.So,umthatkindofconfirmedit[00:47:45.520]forme.[00:47:46.680]ButumMountZealissortofaportof[00:47:50.440]entrytotheearth.[00:47:52.600]The[00:47:53.360]friendlyonesgothere.[00:47:56.760]Andthenfromtherespreadoutaround[00:47:58.680]theworld.[00:48:00.000]And[00:48:01.040]uhSkiponetime[00:48:03.000]uhSkipatwater.[00:48:04.720]Um[00:48:05.920]wantedsomefeedbackandsohecalleda[00:48:08.040]friendofhisworkinginthereininin[00:48:11.160]Australia[00:48:12.600]andaskedhimifanythingwasgoingon.[00:48:16.200]Andhesaid,"No.[00:48:18.560]Nothinghappenshere.I{t}^{\prime }sthemost[00:48:20.240]boringjob{I}^{\prime }veeverhadifitwere{n}^{\prime }t[00:48:22.000]foralltheseUFOsgoinginandoutof[00:48:23.920]MountZeal.Wedo{n}^{\prime }thaveanythingtodo[00:48:26.360]here."[00:48:26.923]>>[laughter][00:48:27.280]>>Wow.[00:48:28.280]>>Yeah.[00:48:29.040]>>Whatwha{t}^{\prime }sthepurposeoftheUFOs[00:48:30.920]goinginandout?Aretheyrefueling?[00:48:32.720]Arethey[00:48:33.640]>>Uhno,i{t}^{\prime }ssortoflikeaanairport.[00:48:36.920]Justaportofentry.[00:48:38.080]>>Mhm.[00:48:38.960]>>No,uhand[00:48:40.640]>>WhatmakesitagoodIstherelikea[00:48:42.280]reasonwhyi{t}^{\prime }sagoodportofentry?Is[00:48:44.720]theresomething,youknow,[00:48:45.720]geomagneticallyanomalousaboutitor[00:48:48.040]anything?[00:48:48.200]>>Ido{n}^{\prime }tknow.I{t}^{\prime }sI{t}^{\prime }sisolated.Tha{t}^{\prime }s[00:48:51.640]Tha{t}^{\prime }sallIknow.[00:48:53.080]UmwhenIdidthat[00:48:55.720]whenPatPricedidthatone,theylet[00:48:57.760]himknowthattheyknewwhowasthere[00:48:59.920]andthatscaredhim.Heneverwentback.[00:49:01.920]>>Mhm.[00:49:02.920]>>WhenIviewedit[00:49:05.440]thefirstthingthathappenedwasthey[00:49:07.080]letmeknow[00:49:08.400]thattheyknewIwasthere[00:49:10.400]andthatitwasokay.[00:49:12.520]Andsoum[00:49:14.360]soIjustwentthroughthewhole[00:49:15.880]facilitysketchingandanduh[00:49:19.600]>>Whatwasthatfacilitylike?[00:49:21.480]>>Itwasumbasicallytwolevels.[00:49:24.960]Onelevelwaswheretheshipscomein,[00:49:28.600]settleintokindofadock.[00:49:31.114]>>[sighsandgasps][00:49:31.840]>>Anduh[00:49:33.520]passengersgetonandoff.[00:49:36.800]Andalsothecrewdownbelow[00:49:40.360]goesdown,youknow,goesdowntothe[00:49:43.040]lowerfloorandtha{t}^{\prime }sthemaintenance[00:49:45.640]andandeverythingelse.[00:49:47.440]Andum[00:49:49.280]thatisjustsortofaanairport.[00:49:52.640]Iguessyoucouldsay.[00:49:54.480]Uhnow,onethingthathappenedwithmy[00:49:57.160]viewwas[00:49:58.920]somethingthattheysaidtheynever[00:50:00.320]heardbefore.[00:50:02.960]Inthe[00:50:04.440]areawherethe[00:50:06.520]travelers,youknow,goinandout,[00:50:09.440]Isawagray[00:50:12.000]femalewithababygray.[00:50:15.240]And{I}^{\prime }veneverheard[00:50:17.440]Theysaidthe{y}^{\prime }veneverheardofany[00:50:19.280]anythinglikethatontheearthbefore.[00:50:21.560]Youknow,any[00:50:23.120]observationofthat.But,um[00:50:26.440]yeah,theyletmeknowitwasokaytobe[00:50:28.120]thereandhey,havealookaround.[00:50:31.520]>>Whydoyouthinktheyletyou[00:50:33.560]justlookaround?[00:50:34.480]>>Ido{n}^{\prime }tthinktheycare.[00:50:36.000]>>Mhm.[00:50:37.200]>>Youknow,[00:50:38.360]Imean,uh[00:50:39.400]>>I{t}^{\prime }slike,uh[00:50:40.240]>>Whathavetheygottofearfromme?I[00:50:42.720]>>I{t}^{\prime }slikeazoologistorsomethinggoing[00:50:44.840]into[00:50:45.920]thethejungleinAfricaandlookingat[00:50:48.160]thegorillasorwhatever.I{t}^{\prime }s[00:50:49.520]>>Yeah,theyjustsay,"Oh,[00:50:52.000]her{e}^{\prime }sagorillatha{t}^{\prime }sbald,youknow,[00:50:54.000]welcomehimin,youknow."[00:50:55.840]>>Right.[00:50:56.360]>>Yeah.[00:50:57.520]>>I{t}^{\prime }sinteresting.I{t}^{\prime }salmostlike,um[00:51:00.480]whenyoulearn[00:51:02.280]deeplyadvancedremoteviewing,maybe[00:51:04.120]yourepistemology,yourwayofknowing,[00:51:07.320]kindofconvergesontheirs.I{t}^{\prime }slike[00:51:09.480]you[00:51:10.040]>>ItItdoes.Uh[00:51:12.360]thereare,um[00:51:15.440]withoutgoingtoodeeplyintoit,um[00:51:18.840]thereare[00:51:20.500]>>[sighs][00:51:22.000]>>evenwaysthatyoucanphysicallychange[00:51:24.720]whileyo{u}^{\prime }reremoteviewing.[00:51:26.760]Uh[00:51:27.800]>>Really?[00:51:28.400]>>Yeah.[00:51:29.280]>>Youcanphysicallychange.[00:51:30.760]>>Youcanphysicallychange.[00:51:32.240]>>everphysicallychanged?[00:51:33.840]>>Well,IwasdoingoneoftheSaddam[00:51:36.240]Husseinthingsonetimeandtheum[00:51:40.400]thewomanwhowasmonitoringmeatthe[00:51:43.600]time[00:51:44.880]letoutascreamandranoutofthe[00:51:46.600]building,youknow?[00:51:48.320]Anduh[00:51:49.960]Ifoundoutthenextdayshefinally[00:51:52.040]toldme,shesaid,"Youreyesturned[00:51:54.640]brownandyour[00:51:56.360]voicedeepened."[00:51:59.280]Anduh[00:52:01.120]andshesaid,"Butyoureyesturned[00:52:03.240]actuallybrown."[00:52:05.280]AnduhsoIjust[00:52:08.360]accessedhimtothatpoint.[00:52:10.600]>>Wow.[00:52:11.480]>>ButImean,Iwasaccessinghimevery[00:52:14.160]singleday.[00:52:15.480]>>Cuzyoureyes{I}^{\prime }mlookingatthemright[00:52:16.800]now,youhaveyouhavebeautifuleyes.[00:52:18.560]>>I^{\prime }mblue-eyed,yeah.[00:52:19.480]>>Milkyblueeyes.[00:52:21.240]>>Yeah,uh-huh.[00:52:21.640]>>Soyouyoureyesturnedtothesame[00:52:24.240]colorasSaddamHussein.[00:52:25.360]>>said.Tha{t}^{\prime }swhatshetoldme,yeah,[00:52:27.760]uh-huh.[00:52:28.200]>>Soitwaslikeyouwere[00:52:29.960]mergingwithhim.[00:52:31.080]>>Merging,sortof,yeah.[00:52:32.680]>>Wow.[00:52:33.600]>>So[00:52:34.120]>>Likeinhabitinghimorsomething.[00:52:36.200]>>Sortofsinkingwithhimorsomething,I[00:52:39.000]do{n}^{\prime }tknow.[00:52:40.160]Uh[00:52:41.200]Idid{n}^{\prime }tknowanythingaboutit[00:52:43.200]untilshesaid,[00:52:44.760]youknow.[00:52:46.040]>>YoualsoremoteviewedGorbachev.[00:52:48.720]>>Oh,yeah,uh-huh,yeah.[00:52:50.080]>>Whatwashelike?[00:52:51.800]>>Oh,hewasaniceguy.Hereallywas.[00:52:54.400]>>Seemslikeaniceguyfromhispublic[00:52:56.040]appearances.[00:52:56.720]>>Oh,yeah,andum[00:52:59.406]>>[clearsthroat][00:53:01.040]>>somebodycritiquesmymybook,The[00:53:03.360]SeventhSense,bytheway,Ibroughtyou[00:53:05.240]acopy.[00:53:05.880]>>Thankyou.[00:53:06.760]>>AndIknowpeoplebringyoubooksall[00:53:09.240]thetimethatyouca{n}^{\prime }tread,youdo{n}^{\prime }t[00:53:10.960]havetime.Sonoobligationtoreadit,[00:53:14.400]okay?[00:53:15.000]>>Itwo{n}^{\prime }tbeatest.[00:53:16.000]>>Oh,well,thatmeansalot.I^{\prime }vealready[00:53:17.680]readpartofit,so[00:53:19.056]>>[laughter][00:53:19.560]>>Iwo{n}^{\prime }tcomebackandsay,"Whatdidyou[00:53:21.280]thinkaboutchapterseven?"[00:53:23.080]>>Well,youcan,i{t}^{\prime }sokay.[laughter][00:53:25.480]UmYouremoteviewedGorbachevandyou[00:53:28.120]saidthathewasaniceguy.[00:53:29.520]>>somebodysaidinthebookthatIhadum[00:53:32.840]thatIhad[00:53:34.520]umsaidthat[00:53:37.120]I[00:53:38.360]convinced[00:53:40.440]Russiato[00:53:42.400]endcommunism.[00:53:44.360]Andtha{t}^{\prime }snottrue.[00:53:46.040]Youknow,atall.[00:53:47.600]But,um[00:53:49.160]Iwasoveratthegolfcluboneday[00:53:51.360]thereonFortMeadeeatinglunchanduh[00:53:55.360]twoagentscameinandsatatthefar[00:53:58.920]tableandImean[00:54:03.280]theyblendinsoperfectlythatthey[00:54:05.640]standout.[00:54:07.440]Youknow,youcangettheviberight[00:54:09.600]there.Oh,theseguysare,youknow,[00:54:12.520]uhnotheretoeat.Anduh[00:54:15.360]soIgotupandleftandwhenIdidthey[00:54:18.200]followedmeouttotheparkinglot.[00:54:20.480]Andtheyhadmegetintheircar.They[00:54:23.000]drovemearoundFortMeade.[00:54:25.320]Andbasicallytheysaid,uhyouknow,we[00:54:28.320]wantyoutodothingstoaffect[00:54:31.800]Gorbachevandallthis.AndIsaid,"No.[00:54:35.960]I^{\prime }mnotgoingtodothat."[00:54:37.760]Uhforonething,wewere[00:54:40.680]thiswasanotheredictwehadonusthat[00:54:43.120]therewouldbenoactivementalwork.[00:54:45.960]Weweretheretocollectintelligence,[00:54:48.120]nottodoinfluencingoranythinglike[00:54:50.480]that.[00:54:51.560]AndsoIsaid,"No,tha{t}^{\prime }s[00:54:54.200]Icangotojailforthat,youknow."[00:54:56.080]And[00:54:57.307]>>[sighs][00:54:57.720]>>souhanyway,whenIgotoutofthecar,[00:55:01.560]Ido{n}^{\prime }tknowwhatmademesayit,but[00:55:03.800]justsortofto[00:55:06.440]benastytothosetwoguys,[00:55:09.360]Ileanedbackdown[00:55:11.160]totheopendoorandIsaid,[00:55:13.480]"ButmaybeIcanmakehimend[00:55:14.640]communism."[00:55:16.040]Youknow.[00:55:17.280]Andanyway,whenIgothomethat[00:55:19.280]evening,Ithought,[00:55:21.520]"IwonderifIcoulddosomethinglike[00:55:23.080]that."Isaid,"No,i{t}^{\prime }sstupid,you[00:55:25.640]know."[00:55:26.560]SoIstarteddoingsessionsandum[00:55:29.760]whatsurprisedmewas[00:55:33.240]thespeechwheretheyendeduh[00:55:36.720]communism,thewordsinthatspeechwere[00:55:39.520]thewordsthat{I}^{\prime }dbeenpumpinginto[00:55:41.240]him.[00:55:42.200]>>Noway.[00:55:43.040]>>Yeah.[00:55:43.560]>>Likewhat?[00:55:44.240]>>Umwell,i{t}^{\prime }sallinRussian.Butuhthe[00:55:46.840]>>Butdoyourememberwhatwordsyouwere[00:55:48.040]poppingintohim?[00:55:48.880]>>Oh,yeah.[00:55:49.400]>>Likewhat?[00:55:50.320]>>Uh[00:55:51.760]well,tha{t}^{\prime }snotthepoint{I}^{\prime }mtryingto[00:55:53.360]makehere.[00:55:54.400]Thepointisthat[00:55:56.800]foragoodyear,yearandahalfbefore[00:56:00.440]that,[00:56:01.880]hewasalreadyplannedtoendplanning[00:56:03.880]toendcommunism.[00:56:05.920]So,didIhaveanyeffectonthat?No.[00:56:09.840]Imayhavehelpedhimwithhisspeech.[00:56:12.040]Thatwasit.[00:56:13.360]>>Doyourememberhowspecificallyyou[00:56:15.160]helpedhimatallor[00:56:16.640]>>UhoneofthethingsIkeptputtingin[00:56:18.800]wasuh[00:56:20.160]about[00:56:21.760]thegenerationstofollowandallthis.[00:56:24.440]>>Tha{t}^{\prime }samazing.[00:56:25.400]>>Yeah.[00:56:25.960]>>Wow.[00:56:26.400]>>Butumyeah,thethetermsandthewords[00:56:29.360]IwasIwaspumpingin[00:56:32.000]uh[00:56:33.640]heusedinhisspeech.[00:56:35.160]>>Mhm.[00:56:35.760]>>So.[00:56:36.440]>>Aboutthegenerationstofollowandyou[00:56:38.920]know,whatthefutureofRussiamight[00:56:41.440]looklike.[00:56:42.360]>>Yeah.[00:56:43.040]>>AndMountInyanganiisanotheralien[00:56:46.840]base.[00:56:47.360]>>InTen-uh[00:56:49.160]inZim-Zimbabwe,yeah.[00:56:51.280]UhwhatIfoundoutaboutthatonewas[00:56:53.440]thatitseemstobearepairfacility,[00:56:55.600]maintenanceandrepairfacility.[00:56:57.400]>>Forwhat?[00:56:58.720]>>ForET-forUFOs.[00:57:00.560]>>ForUFOs?[00:57:01.400]>>Yeah.[00:57:02.414]>>[gasps][00:57:02.760]>>No,Ineverdidtheonethatwasinthe[00:57:04.720]Pyrenees.[00:57:05.640]>>Mhm.[00:57:06.400]>>So,I^{\prime }mnotsureaboutit.[00:57:08.160]>>Mhm.Tha{t}^{\prime }sMountPerdido.[00:57:10.120]>>one,yeah.[00:57:11.240]>>MountInyangan{i}^{\prime }sinterestingbecause[00:57:13.000]peopleoftengomissingwhilethe{y}^{\prime }re[00:57:15.720]hikingaroundMountInyangani.[00:57:17.960]>>Yeah.Uh-huh.Yeah.[00:57:19.200]>>Doyouthinkther{e}^{\prime }saconnection[00:57:20.640]betweenthatandthissupposedalien[00:57:22.560]base?[00:57:23.240]>>Youseetoomuch,youdisappear.Yeah.[00:57:25.880]>>Whathappenstoyou?[00:57:28.320]>>Uh[00:57:30.880]you[00:57:32.840]youdo{n}^{\prime }texistanymore.[00:57:34.509]>>[laughter][00:57:35.280]>>Youdie.Yeah.[00:57:36.320]>>Oh,no.[00:57:37.240]>>Yeah.Theytheyguardthings.[00:57:40.000]>>Theyguardthingstightly.[00:57:41.120]>>Yeah.Fromwhat{I}^{\prime }veseenat[00:57:44.040]uhMountZion[00:57:46.800]and[00:57:48.600]uhthereinZimbabwe,Ithinkyoualso[00:57:51.760]havethechanceof[00:57:53.880]becomingaworker.[00:57:55.880]Butyoudo{n}^{\prime }tcomeback.[00:57:57.640]>>Mhm.[00:57:58.080]>>Youknow.[00:57:58.600]>>Mhm.[00:57:59.160]>>Youdo{n}^{\prime }tgobackhomeagain.[00:58:01.040]>>Really?[00:58:01.720]>>Yeah.[00:58:02.160]>>Sotheyabductyouandmakeyouworkfor[00:58:04.480]them.[00:58:04.960]>>Ithinki{t}^{\prime }svoluntary.Youhaveyour[00:58:07.080]choicebetweendyingor[00:58:09.520]orworking.[00:58:10.535]>>[laughter][00:58:10.880]>>Whatmakesyouthinkthattheymake[00:58:12.920]certainpeopleworkers?[00:58:14.480]>>Becausetherearehumansworkingwith[00:58:16.000]them.[00:58:16.960]>>Mhm.[00:58:18.640]Howdoyouknowthat?Fromyourremote[00:58:20.320]viewing?[00:58:21.120]>>Fromtheremoteviewing,yeah.Um[00:58:24.400]andalsofromotherreports.[00:58:27.240]Youknow,uh[00:58:30.480]otherviewingreportsandactual[00:58:33.600]reports.[00:58:34.400]>>WhatarethehumanArethehumanslike[00:58:36.960]activemanagersoraretheyjust[00:58:39.040]underlingsor[00:58:39.960]>>Ithinkthe{y}^{\prime }rejustunderling[00:58:41.440]underlings,yeah.[00:58:42.320]>>Sothe{y}^{\prime 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[01:01:37.800] >> While we’re on the topic, about 5 years [01:01:40.520] ago [01:01:41.720] I was in El Paso [01:01:43.760] and stopped at a restaurant. [01:01:46.080] And I [01:01:48.360] I [01:01:49.240] came back out to the car, and when I [01:01:51.280] did, two guys [01:01:53.892] >> [sighs] [01:01:54.480] >> two humans, okay? [01:01:56.800] Uh came up and said [01:02:00.040] “You’re Len Bequette.” [01:02:03.200] You already knew that. Yeah. And I said, [01:02:05.640] “Yes.” [01:02:06.640] And um [01:02:09.080] they said, “Um [01:02:11.040] we’re interested in finding out [01:02:12.760] something if you could find out for us, [01:02:14.560] and that is [01:02:16.560] who in the government is looking at the [01:02:18.960] wedge of the DNA chart that says other.” [01:02:24.120] And I says “I have no idea.” [01:02:26.680] They said, “Well, could you find out?” [01:02:28.920] Well [01:02:30.520] Linda Moulton Howe is a good friend of [01:02:32.160] mine, and so I said [01:02:35.440] “Maybe Linda could answer the question.” [01:02:37.800] She knew it. [01:02:39.360] I mean [01:02:40.360] you talk about an investigative [01:02:41.960] reporter. She’s an investigative [01:02:44.160] reporter. She knows. And she [01:02:47.520] clicked off the names immediately. [01:02:49.760] And um [01:02:52.000] So, I asked them why. [01:02:55.440] And he said [01:02:57.840] “Back [01:02:59.440] centuries and centuries ago [01:03:02.800] when the ETs left the Earth, they took [01:03:05.880] humans with them as slaves.” [01:03:09.320] And he said [01:03:10.960] “We’ve been slaves for hundreds of [01:03:13.480] generations [01:03:15.000] on another planet. [01:03:16.960] Our DNA has changed to match that. [01:03:20.600] And he said, [01:03:22.360] “Now that we’re coming back here and [01:03:24.200] serving [01:03:26.200] to do the work at these bases, [01:03:29.200] some of us are escaping.” [01:03:32.160] And he said, [01:03:34.480] “We don’t want to do anything in the [01:03:35.840] government. We don’t want any power. We [01:03:37.560] don’t want anything. We just want to be [01:03:39.920] free. [01:03:41.400] That’s all we want.” [01:03:43.640] And he said, “We’re afraid of that DNA [01:03:47.160] test.” [01:03:48.800] >> Are those beings physiologically exactly [01:03:52.160] the same as all of these humans? [01:03:53.600] >> two guys were. [01:03:54.920] >> Do they have any other sort of adaptive [01:03:57.040] powers, behaviors, or traits based on [01:03:59.880] their [01:04:00.400] >> They were two guys in a parking lot. I [01:04:02.440] don’t know if it’s true or not, but [01:04:05.080] that’s that’s what happened. [01:04:07.840] And uh [01:04:09.440] and so [01:04:11.360] I guess it’s a possibility of being [01:04:13.240] true. I don’t know. [01:04:14.440] >> So, those aliens that came [01:04:17.960] here, you know, thousands of years ago, [01:04:20.240] stories of like [01:04:21.600] >> Yeah, Anunnaki and watchers and that [01:04:23.800] sort of thing. Yeah, something like [01:04:25.160] that, you know. [01:04:25.680] >> So, [01:04:26.600] they had, you know, humans working for [01:04:29.440] them when they came originally, you [01:04:31.360] know, call it 10,000-ish years ago. [01:04:33.760] >> Yeah, and when they left, they took [01:04:35.240] workers with them. [01:04:36.360] >> They took workers with them. And then [01:04:38.640] now they come back, occasionally visit [01:04:41.000] some of these bases, and they bring the [01:04:42.680] workers with them to work [01:04:44.200] >> to do the work, to do the slave work, [01:04:46.080] yeah. [01:04:46.560] >> occasionally some of those workers [01:04:48.360] escape. [01:04:49.720] >> That’s what these two guys told me. [01:04:52.200] >> Mhm. [01:04:53.880] >> Whether it’s true or not, I don’t know. [01:04:56.280] That’s just what they told me. But [01:04:59.640] they told me in a way that I tended to [01:05:02.000] believe it. I have no proof. [01:05:04.360] >> Pat Price, who was originally [01:05:06.640] responsible for viewing these four, [01:05:09.520] you know, alien bases, [01:05:10.920] >> Yeah. [01:05:11.360] >> was one of the most skilled remote [01:05:13.440] viewers of all time. [01:05:14.880] >> He was a psychic. [01:05:17.120] >> How would you make that distinction? [01:05:19.240] >> A psychic is a person who [01:05:22.440] has the natural ability [01:05:25.560] and great strength and knows how to [01:05:28.160] access it. [01:05:29.760] >> A remote viewer is trained. [01:05:31.640] >> A remote viewer [01:05:33.560] >> A psychic is born. [01:05:35.240] >> Yeah. [01:05:35.880] >> Okay. [01:05:36.440] >> I um [01:05:37.680] the remote viewing that was made for the [01:05:40.200] military [01:05:41.560] wasn’t made for psychics. [01:05:43.760] The military didn’t want psychics. [01:05:45.800] >> Mhm. [01:05:46.800] >> They wanted to teach [01:05:48.560] the ordinary soldier how to know what’s [01:05:51.160] over the hill and where to point the [01:05:52.520] guns. [01:05:53.600] That’s what they wanted. [01:05:54.840] >> Are you a remote viewer or a psychic? [01:05:56.640] >> I’m a remote viewer. Well, [01:05:58.680] but I grew up with the PK ability and [01:06:02.280] some psychic sense. Everybody has [01:06:05.760] intuition to some extent. Okay? [01:06:09.560] Uh [01:06:10.200] some more than others and all that. [01:06:12.560] But uh the controlled remote viewing [01:06:16.280] is actually [01:06:18.360] a martial art. [01:06:20.520] Uh [01:06:21.520] what happens is [01:06:23.240] your subconscious knows something. [01:06:26.840] It can’t talk to the conscious mind [01:06:29.360] without a psychiatrist couch. [01:06:32.160] You know? [01:06:33.160] And so [01:06:35.200] it gives you a physical response. [01:06:38.760] When you can learn consciously to read [01:06:41.440] these physical responses and you can [01:06:44.160] train those [01:06:46.080] to to where it’s a communication line [01:06:49.720] then [01:06:51.080] you can [01:06:52.360] physically [01:06:54.400] pass a question to your subconscious [01:06:56.440] mind. It will cause a physical response. [01:06:59.520] You read that physical response and [01:07:01.200] you’ve got the answer. [01:07:03.200] That’s what controlled remote viewing [01:07:04.880] is. It’s actually a martial art. [01:07:07.000] >> Mhm. [01:07:08.240] Fascinating. [01:07:09.080] >> Yeah. It’s not [01:07:11.360] Oh, the answer is, you know, [01:07:13.536] >> [gasps] [01:07:14.120] >> Oh, the answer is, put the question to [01:07:16.160] your forehead, and the answer is it’s [01:07:17.680] not there at all. [01:07:18.920] >> Do you have a sense of how it [01:07:20.120] mechanically works, or are we sort of in [01:07:22.920] the stone age as far as you know, with [01:07:24.520] like a a radio signal? [01:07:26.680] >> Yeah. [01:07:26.920] >> It’s pretty clear how it works with [01:07:28.360] remote viewing. Do we understand the [01:07:30.480] actual transmission mechanism? [01:07:32.280] >> Um [01:07:33.760] Some of the people who do the controlled [01:07:36.480] remote viewing [01:07:37.960] will [01:07:39.840] write down the coordinates, because you [01:07:42.080] never tell them what the target is. You [01:07:44.200] just give them a [01:07:45.920] encrypted number, [01:07:47.760] and let their pen do scribble, scribble, [01:07:50.880] scribble. [01:07:52.480] And then they go back and touch it. [01:07:54.720] Well, scribble, scribble, scribble is [01:07:56.880] automatic writing, [01:07:58.520] which some people are good at. [01:08:01.640] Psychometry is where you go back and [01:08:03.560] touch something and get information off [01:08:05.440] of it. Okay? [01:08:07.520] And so, that’s one way to begin a CRV [01:08:10.200] session. [01:08:10.920] >> Mhm. [01:08:12.240] >> Another way, [01:08:14.080] and the way that I teach my students, [01:08:17.880] is the martial art way. [01:08:20.560] Wax on, wipe off, okay? And so, you say, [01:08:24.480] uh [01:08:26.000] Draw me the most basic graphic you can [01:08:29.359] of land. And some people will make a [01:08:31.720] mountain, some people make a straight [01:08:33.240] line. [01:08:34.279] And uh [01:08:35.839] then [01:08:37.080] show me water, and they’ll make a wavy [01:08:39.520] line. And you have this other [01:08:41.400] vocabulary. [01:08:43.279] And you practice, and practice, and [01:08:45.000] practice that. This is how they taught [01:08:47.839] me the English one method [01:08:50.440] was taught to me. [01:08:52.200] And um [01:08:53.839] when it gets to the point where [01:08:57.000] the monitor who’s calling out these [01:08:59.640] words [01:09:01.200] starts to say the word [01:09:03.720] and the viewer automatically makes the [01:09:05.640] word that’s going to be said. [01:09:08.359] That’s when you know their subconscious [01:09:10.319] mind [01:09:11.640] is accessing the monitor. [01:09:14.080] That’s when you know you’ve got it. [01:09:16.520] So, then [01:09:18.880] you go to what’s that’s called stage [01:09:20.799] one. [01:09:22.319] So, then you go to stage two where you [01:09:24.359] say, “Oh, [01:09:25.720] describe the water.” [01:09:28.560] And but describing the water [01:09:31.880] you say, “How does it taste? [01:09:35.000] How does it feel? What’s the [01:09:36.920] temperature?” You use only physical [01:09:39.920] descriptors. [01:09:42.040] And [01:09:43.160] you get the physical descriptors of it [01:09:45.920] and then you say, “Oh, it feels cold.” [01:09:49.680] Well, how cold is it? That’s where you [01:09:52.120] start getting the measurements. And as [01:09:54.360] you go through the six stages [01:09:56.560] you finally get down [01:09:58.480] to where [01:10:00.200] you can reproduce the circuitry on a [01:10:03.080] circuit board. [01:10:04.880] I mean, it gets that detailed. [01:10:07.320] And this is the genius of what Ingo [01:10:09.480] Swann did. [01:10:10.960] He started out with [01:10:13.080] “I don’t know what’s at the target, but [01:10:14.800] man, there’s land and water and [01:10:16.720] something man-made.” [01:10:19.480] You know? [01:10:20.600] And at that point in the training where [01:10:23.040] you’re in stage one [01:10:25.040] training, you open the envelope and [01:10:27.000] there’s a ship sitting at dock. [01:10:30.080] Just like that, you know? And when you [01:10:32.600] get good at that, 80% accurate at it [01:10:36.240] through practice [01:10:37.840] then you move into stage two. [01:10:40.800] >> Joseph McMoneagle was tasked with remote [01:10:43.760] viewing Mars a million years ago. [01:10:46.760] Claimed to see [01:10:48.480] people who were much taller than human [01:10:50.320] beings and pyramid structures and sort [01:10:54.320] of a civilization. [01:10:56.040] Have you seen anything like that? Have [01:10:57.400] you ever remotely Mars? [01:10:59.680] >> Um [01:11:00.960] in stage six [01:11:03.680] there’s phenomenon called um [01:11:07.120] uh bilocation [01:11:09.720] and there’s one step beyond that which [01:11:13.080] we call perfect sight integration. [01:11:17.120] When you reach that stage [01:11:20.280] you’re not at the target, okay? [01:11:24.120] But your attention is so focused on the [01:11:26.280] target that you you forget about the [01:11:28.480] room around you or anything else. [01:11:31.920] And [01:11:33.160] your attention is so focused on it, you [01:11:35.680] cannot tell that you’re not at the [01:11:37.480] target. [01:11:38.840] You feel the breeze on your face, you [01:11:40.760] feel the temperature, that everything. [01:11:42.920] You see it. [01:11:44.600] And uh first time that happened to me [01:11:47.520] was with the Sedona region at Mars. [01:11:50.920] And um [01:11:52.360] I was working along. I’d gotten some [01:11:54.840] coordinates, just some numbers. [01:11:57.080] And uh I was working along and all of a [01:12:00.240] sudden [01:12:01.760] I felt sand under my feet. [01:12:05.000] Now [01:12:06.120] here’s an idiosyncrasy. [01:12:08.760] I never remote view with my shoes on. [01:12:11.560] I don’t know why. [01:12:12.875] >> [laughter] [01:12:13.440] >> I just I’m a Texas boy. I take my shoes [01:12:15.920] off, you know. And uh [01:12:18.520] so I felt the sand under my feet and I [01:12:22.240] looked down and [clears throat] [01:12:23.960] there was I was in a hallway that was [01:12:26.320] filled with sand. [01:12:28.440] And uh I looked up and there was an [01:12:31.080] opening [01:12:32.480] at the far end of the hallway. [01:12:35.120] So I walked down to the opening and I [01:12:38.680] it was open so I leaned out [01:12:41.440] and the building that I was in was [01:12:44.120] sloping backwards and it was just all [01:12:46.920] rough and just eroded and everything [01:12:49.240] else. [01:12:50.200] And I looked out. [01:12:52.560] the sun was dim, the sky was the wrong [01:12:55.760] color, [01:12:56.840] it’s extremely cold, the place smelled [01:13:00.680] bad, [01:13:01.800] and um [01:13:03.560] um I looked at the other things that [01:13:06.560] were around, [01:13:08.960] and [01:13:09.860] >> [sighs and gasps] [01:13:11.360] >> came back and described them and, you [01:13:13.120] know, drew a picture of it and all that. [01:13:15.560] So, um [01:13:17.160] I guess about 6 months later we were out [01:13:19.360] at um [01:13:21.040] um [01:13:23.160] place in California visiting Hal [01:13:25.360] Puthoff, [01:13:26.520] and um [01:13:28.920] there was a picture on the wall [01:13:31.600] of the Sedona region of Mars. [01:13:34.720] And um [01:13:36.480] this was not the picture everybody sees. [01:13:40.320] You know how the picture they show is [01:13:43.040] all fuzzy and all hm? [01:13:45.240] Come on. [01:13:46.560] They can read your license plate from [01:13:48.880] 250 mi through air. [01:13:52.880] You’re going to tell me they can’t see a [01:13:54.360] mountain sharply [01:13:56.520] from here on Mars? [01:13:58.480] And uh this was a very sharp picture. [01:14:01.720] And there on the side of [01:14:04.920] one of those pyramids, there’s a little [01:14:07.200] opening. Been there, done that, didn’t [01:14:09.640] get the t-shirt. [01:14:10.776] >> [laughter] [01:14:12.400] >> But uh [01:14:13.640] but I was looking at this picture [01:14:16.240] and realizing that everything I had [01:14:18.840] drawn from that angle [01:14:21.920] from above was in the right place, [01:14:24.960] everything. [01:14:26.440] The um [01:14:28.240] the [01:14:29.360] sky that I saw was the color of the sky [01:14:32.280] on Mars, [01:14:33.800] the sun was dimmer, you know, and [01:14:37.240] further away and all that, and the [01:14:39.520] bitter cold and everything else. [01:14:41.480] >> Was it red? [01:14:42.760] >> Uh what, the sun? [01:14:43.960] >> The landscape. [01:14:45.320] >> Oh, yeah. Yeah, uh-huh. Yeah, it was it [01:14:47.800] was it was [01:14:50.000] orangish red. Yeah, and all that. I [01:14:51.960] mean, it was desert. [01:14:53.800] It was sand. After that session, they [01:14:56.440] said, “Oh, you were on Mars.” [01:14:59.080] And I said, “Okay.” [01:15:01.160] But when I saw that picture, [01:15:03.880] that’s when I realized, [01:15:06.760] “Hey, [01:15:08.720] I was on Mars.” [01:15:10.382] >> [laughter] [01:15:11.640] >> And you know, I cannot physically I [01:15:14.480] cannot say I’ve ever been physically on [01:15:16.600] Mars. [01:15:17.800] >> Mhm. [01:15:18.800] >> But I have had the experience, [01:15:22.240] the real experience of walking through [01:15:25.040] the sands of Mars. [01:15:27.280] And how are you going to explain that to [01:15:29.280] anybody? [01:15:30.400] I’ve had the experience of it. [01:15:32.760] >> Did you see any alien life? [01:15:35.560] >> Actually, I did. Yeah, um [01:15:38.400] uh [01:15:39.240] because the monitor took me elsewhere [01:15:42.480] after that. But yeah, mhm. [01:15:44.720] >> And And so, where did you go after that [01:15:47.040] where you saw alien life? [01:15:48.800] >> Um [01:15:50.120] down into the pyramid and it was um [01:15:55.240] it was beings that [01:15:58.360] are much larger than humans, [01:16:01.472] >> [sighs and gasps] [01:16:01.760] >> but [01:16:03.120] with atrophied limbs, [01:16:05.280] probably incapable of ever coming out, [01:16:07.600] you know. [01:16:08.800] >> What did they look like? Did they look [01:16:10.480] like humans but atrophied or did [01:16:12.200] >> No, well, right at first, they looked to [01:16:14.880] me like worms. I mean, their [01:16:17.560] their legs and their arms were just, you [01:16:20.040] know, were there but just [01:16:23.160] like I say, atrophied, not even used. [01:16:26.240] >> Was their skin color the same color as, [01:16:28.960] you know, [01:16:29.200] >> Oh, [01:16:30.292] >> [sighs] [01:16:30.920] >> roughly, I think. Yeah, as I remember [01:16:33.440] it. [01:16:34.960] I was there a very short time and they [01:16:36.800] pulled me out. [01:16:39.480] >> Fascinating. [01:16:40.400] >> Yeah. Did you get the sense of as [01:16:42.240] whether they had a relationship with [01:16:43.880] mankind at all or they were from [01:16:46.360] >> I didn’t. They pulled me out. [01:16:47.840] >> Mhm. [01:16:48.240] >> They pulled me out from that, yeah. [01:16:49.880] >> Mhm. [01:16:50.280] >> And this was present Mars. This isn’t a [01:16:52.200] million years ago. [01:16:52.960] >> Present, yeah. [01:16:53.840] >> Mhm. [01:16:54.400] >> Yeah. [01:16:55.160] >> What’s the most exotic place you’ve [01:16:57.080] bilocated to? [01:16:58.760] >> The most exotic, I haven’t heard that [01:17:00.480] one before. Um [01:17:03.040] the strangest place was Titan. [01:17:07.800] Um [01:17:09.680] I was tasked for some reason with Titan [01:17:12.640] to find any life there. [01:17:15.120] >> Titan is a moon of Jupiter. [01:17:17.040] >> Moon, yeah. Uh-huh. [01:17:18.480] And um [01:17:20.480] Um I found these two beings in a cave. [01:17:25.720] Now, what I think they were looking for [01:17:27.960] was [01:17:29.320] see under the surface or something like [01:17:31.480] that. I [01:17:32.680] They weren’t satisfied with what I got. [01:17:35.040] But these two beings were conversing [01:17:38.560] with each other. [01:17:40.378] >> [gasps] [01:17:40.800] >> And [01:17:43.160] like I say, my forte is mental access. [01:17:48.800] I have never [01:17:51.080] in any other time [01:17:53.600] found anything as totally alien as that. [01:17:57.640] There was no understanding their [01:17:59.520] thoughts. There was no understanding [01:18:04.520] anything about them. I could tell they [01:18:06.800] were thinking. I could hear their [01:18:08.240] thoughts and [01:18:11.160] there was no translation. There was no [01:18:13.280] There was no nothing. Most alien thing [01:18:15.480] I’ve ever [01:18:17.120] experienced, period. And you know, I’ve [01:18:20.080] been tasked with a lot of aliens. [01:18:22.760] This was [01:18:25.360] uh just indescribably alien. [01:18:29.080] >> Just completely foreign. [01:18:31.160] >> Completely. Totally un-understandable. [01:18:34.160] >> Incomprehensible. [01:18:35.360] >> Incomprehensible, yeah. [01:18:37.560] >> When you relay these things to your [01:18:40.800] superiors as part of the remote viewing [01:18:42.960] program, what do they say? Are they [01:18:44.680] shocked or are they like, “Oh, just [01:18:46.240] another day on the job.” and they’re [01:18:47.800] very blasé about it or [01:18:49.240] >> Generally just another day on the job [01:18:51.280] after after, you know, like I say, [01:18:53.640] they’ve been there for 10 years before I [01:18:55.400] ever got there. So, [01:18:57.200] yeah, for them it’s just another day on [01:18:59.040] the job, yeah. [01:19:00.040] >> How many alien species do you think [01:19:02.320] you’ve personally come into contact [01:19:04.480] with? [01:19:05.640] >> I think five. [01:19:06.880] >> Have you seen any in a non-remote [01:19:09.280] viewing [01:19:10.680] capacity? [01:19:13.240] >> As far as you were going to answer that [01:19:14.960] ask that, [01:19:16.280] yes, and I can’t talk about it. [01:19:18.360] >> Why not? [01:19:19.200] >> Because it was on a mission that I can’t [01:19:21.320] talk about. [01:19:22.080] >> Okay. [01:19:23.240] Wow. [01:19:24.000] >> Yeah. [01:19:24.600] >> That’s interesting. [01:19:26.080] >> Yeah, I’m sorry. [01:19:26.960] >> No, it’s okay. Is there anything you can [01:19:28.880] share about it or [01:19:29.800] >> No. [01:19:30.320] >> Okay. Was it shocking? [01:19:32.760] >> By that time I had learned [01:19:35.680] um [01:19:37.600] anytime I went on one of these missions, [01:19:40.200] I would always tell them I don’t want to [01:19:41.880] know anything that I don’t want to be [01:19:43.320] responsible for. The alien was there. [01:19:46.960] And so, I immediately just looked away [01:19:50.080] and kept [01:19:52.200] kept going because I didn’t [01:19:55.440] I didn’t want to be responsible for that [01:19:57.680] for knowing that. [01:19:59.040] So. [01:19:59.640] >> When you say mission, this isn’t a [01:20:02.320] remote viewing mission. This is like you [01:20:04.320] were deployed somewhere? [01:20:06.080] >> Somewhere else, yeah. [01:20:07.160] >> Wow. Fascinating. [01:20:08.880] >> reason, yeah. [01:20:10.440] >> So, what else have you done outside of [01:20:12.440] remote viewing? Have you been deployed [01:20:14.680] in different places around the world? [01:20:16.360] >> Well, yeah. [01:20:17.640] Um [01:20:18.440] I uh was a computer expert, [01:20:22.000] >> Mhm. [01:20:22.640] >> a computer programmer, a Russian [01:20:25.560] linguist, [01:20:27.240] a German linguist. [01:20:29.760] I was the only Mongolian linguist in all [01:20:32.760] five services at the time. [01:20:35.280] Six services now [01:20:37.280] with the space space force. [01:20:39.800] But um I was the only Mongolian linguist [01:20:42.480] in all military services. [01:20:45.120] Um [01:20:46.360] the first time I was in the service [01:20:48.920] I was uh into guided missiles. [01:20:51.960] And guided missile computer systems, [01:20:54.120] control systems, and all that. [01:20:56.520] >> Fascinating. You’ve had a very [01:20:58.680] winding career. You’re You’re uh You’re [01:21:00.720] You’re polymatic. [01:21:01.920] >> I’ve lived in interesting times, you [01:21:03.800] know. [01:21:03.960] >> Yeah. You know, to for me, this, you [01:21:07.040] know, direct alien experience, obviously [01:21:09.200] I’m insatiably curious and want to know [01:21:11.080] more, but I respect your decision to not [01:21:13.400] share more. [01:21:14.640] For the audience [01:21:16.120] >> Well, I also had [01:21:18.560] I had an abduction experience, too. So, [01:21:21.720] I had a Yeah. Go ahead and do [01:21:23.640] >> Well, I’m I’m I’m I’m just wanting to I [01:21:25.080] want to get into that, too. But I’m for [01:21:27.040] the audience, they might be wondering [01:21:29.040] why can Lynn share about some of the [01:21:32.440] stuff he’s remote viewed that also seems [01:21:34.480] somewhat sensitive, but he can’t talk [01:21:36.480] about this one mission he was on where [01:21:37.960] he saw an alien. [01:21:38.560] >> Well, I can talk about things like [01:21:40.160] happened, but things like [01:21:43.960] who was involved [01:21:45.440] >> Mhm. [01:21:46.040] >> what units were involved, what people [01:21:48.680] and places were involved, and where it [01:21:50.920] happened, and all that. [01:21:52.800] Yeah, those are things that [01:21:55.680] you know. [01:21:57.160] >> So, could you [01:21:58.960] could theoretically talk about what the [01:22:00.720] alien looked like with no context [01:22:03.160] around? [01:22:04.120] >> Well, the one I saw at time uh [01:22:06.600] was one of the what do they call the [01:22:09.280] insectoids? [01:22:10.520] >> Okay. Woah. [01:22:11.680] >> Yeah. [01:22:12.280] >> Like a praying mantis or something? [01:22:14.760] >> I guess. It was sitting at a uh [01:22:18.240] position in a row of [01:22:20.760] humans that were at the positions their [01:22:23.240] positions and [01:22:25.160] working [01:22:26.560] some equipment, So [01:22:28.360] >> Whoa. [01:22:29.200] >> And the thing is many of these times [01:22:33.280] where you have soldiers that are at [01:22:36.040] these jobs all day long, if they know [01:22:38.520] that somebody is coming in who’s an [01:22:40.800] outsider, [01:22:42.520] uh they’ll do something, [01:22:45.400] you know, just to [01:22:48.720] They could have It could have been a [01:22:49.920] soldier that just put on an alien hat or [01:22:52.480] something like that. Uh [01:22:54.560] I don’t know because the minute I saw it [01:22:56.400] I looked away and kept walking. [01:22:58.360] >> Okay. [01:22:59.320] >> So [01:22:59.920] >> could have been them trying to mess with [01:23:01.480] you. [01:23:01.840] >> Could have been. [01:23:02.680] >> But it looked like an alien casually [01:23:04.880] working hand-in-hand with human [01:23:07.760] colleagues. [01:23:08.400] >> Yeah. Mhm. [01:23:09.320] >> Wow. [01:23:10.040] >> Yeah. [01:23:11.880] >> Well, can you say what they were working [01:23:13.720] on? [01:23:14.600] >> You’re back into what I can’t talk [01:23:16.080] about. [01:23:16.240] >> Okay, no worries. All right, we’ll stop [01:23:18.000] there. But that That’s interesting. [01:23:20.640] >> Yeah. [01:23:21.360] >> Do you Do you think that um in some of [01:23:24.720] these places [01:23:26.720] humans and aliens are working side by [01:23:29.160] side? You already said that in the [01:23:30.840] context [01:23:32.120] >> of [01:23:33.480] uh Mount Zeil in Australia. [01:23:36.640] >> I’ve heard that from people who [01:23:38.560] absolutely know for sure. Yeah. [01:23:41.160] >> Really? [01:23:41.960] >> Over and over again. Yeah. [01:23:43.880] >> Wow. And so what like [01:23:47.120] >> Those two guys that [01:23:50.040] approached me in the parking lot [01:23:52.200] >> Mhm. [01:23:53.600] >> could explain why there are humans [01:23:55.480] working with them. They may not be [01:23:59.400] people who were born on Earth. I don’t [01:24:01.320] know. [01:24:02.240] >> Mhm. [01:24:02.600] >> It’s It’s a question that I have that [01:24:05.760] uh that I don’t know the answer to. [01:24:08.480] >> I’ve talked to Hal Puthoff about things [01:24:10.440] like this. Like uh [01:24:12.360] sort of [01:24:13.920] almost like portals on on Earth where [01:24:18.480] humans and aliens are sort of [01:24:20.080] co-located, working together. [01:24:21.760] >> Mhm. [01:24:22.320] >> And we were talking as well before we [01:24:25.200] started rolling about Indian [01:24:27.040] reservations and certain off-limits [01:24:30.520] places in the United States. [01:24:32.240] >> Uh [01:24:33.200] what I seem to have found is that the [01:24:36.160] alien bases [01:24:37.480] >> Mhm. [01:24:38.600] >> Uh I think most people think that the [01:24:40.520] aliens come in and secretly cause [01:24:43.880] form these bases that nobody human knows [01:24:46.720] about and all that. [01:24:48.280] Uh I’ve come to the conclusion [01:24:52.160] personally [01:24:53.920] uh have no proof, no documentation [01:24:57.640] that uh [01:24:59.160] these are the places where [01:25:02.120] our government or the governments of [01:25:04.200] other countries have said [01:25:07.120] you can have this spot to have your [01:25:09.000] base. [01:25:10.440] You stay away from us and we’ll stay [01:25:11.960] away from you. [01:25:13.440] So, they’re more like a reservations [01:25:16.320] that we give to the Indians [01:25:18.400] than they are [01:25:20.520] bases where they have secretly come in [01:25:23.560] and formed something that we don’t know [01:25:25.640] about. [01:25:26.240] >> Mhm. [01:25:26.680] >> And I think we know everything about it. [01:25:29.920] >> So, this is how being done with our [01:25:32.600] explicit permission. [01:25:34.360] >> That’s what I get. [01:25:36.160] Yeah. [01:25:36.880] >> There’s a place called Secret Mountain [01:25:39.000] near Bradshaw Ranch in Sedona, Arizona. [01:25:42.080] >> Okay. [01:25:42.600] >> And this is one of these places that’s [01:25:44.120] rumored that [01:25:45.200] a friend and fellow reporter, Ross [01:25:47.960] Coulthart, has uh [01:25:50.080] you know, systematically investigated [01:25:51.440] this place and it seems like UFOs are [01:25:53.880] flying in and out of this mountain. [01:25:56.160] And [01:25:57.520] the I think the [01:25:59.160] um [01:25:59.880] land is sort of, you know, uh [01:26:02.240] it’s like Bureau of Land Management and [01:26:04.200] I think it was then reserved for like, [01:26:06.240] you know, University of Northern Arizona [01:26:07.920] and there was some environmental studies [01:26:09.480] going on, but basically it’s a way of [01:26:11.360] saying off-limits for anyone else. [01:26:13.760] But nothing goes on there, like no [01:26:15.360] research goes on there. instead people [01:26:17.000] just see men who are wearing these sort [01:26:20.360] of nondescript, you know, outfits and [01:26:23.640] >> New Mexico and yeah [01:26:25.560] >> Yeah, and some of these other places. [01:26:27.560] So, you think that’s happening maybe all [01:26:29.560] over the US? [01:26:31.320] >> All over the world. [01:26:32.200] >> All over the world. [01:26:33.320] >> Yeah. [01:26:34.520] >> How is this stuff so locked down for the [01:26:38.360] ordinary person? Cuz [01:26:40.560] like I you know, I systematically sort [01:26:42.640] of investigate this stuff. You’ve lived [01:26:44.400] it for decades. [01:26:46.880] And so it’s sort of obvious to you. For [01:26:48.800] me, I’m [01:26:50.280] you know, more on the fence than you, [01:26:51.840] but probably more, you know, inclined [01:26:54.160] towards your side obviously than I am [01:26:56.240] towards, you know, [01:26:57.440] an average person who hasn’t studied [01:26:58.600] this stuff. But how is there so much [01:27:00.760] circumstantial evidence and yet [01:27:03.960] the consensus still can maintain that [01:27:06.960] there’s like nothing here. [01:27:09.840] Is it them concealing themselves, the [01:27:11.920] the non-humans or like [01:27:14.080] >> I [01:27:15.080] Well, first of all [01:27:17.280] uh [01:27:18.520] if you had something like that, would [01:27:20.120] you want everybody to know? [01:27:22.680] You know, I mean, if you were to [01:27:25.560] land on Mars, would you want all the [01:27:27.480] Martians to know where you were? Uh [01:27:30.000] probably not, you know. I think most [01:27:32.200] people [01:27:33.880] don’t want to know. They don’t want to [01:27:35.600] believe that that happens. And so, why [01:27:38.680] shatter their [01:27:40.400] paradigm? You know? Does one country [01:27:43.560] want to know the other’s harboring [01:27:46.160] UFO [01:27:47.120] aliens? [01:27:47.760] >> Mhm. [01:27:48.560] >> You know? I don’t know a definite answer [01:27:50.840] to that question, but I think most of [01:27:53.280] all [01:27:54.120] >> [sighs and gasps] [01:27:54.680] >> people don’t want to know. [01:27:56.360] >> Is there a connection between remote [01:27:58.560] viewing and UFO crash retrievals? [01:28:01.980] >> [sighs and gasps] [01:28:02.840] >> Crash retrieval? [01:28:04.680] >> Yes. [01:28:05.320] >> Evidently not from what I found ahead in [01:28:08.680] that hangar. [01:28:09.841] >> [laughter] [01:28:10.200] >> Okay. [01:28:11.000] >> Yeah. [01:28:12.040] Um [01:28:12.960] the the minute I [01:28:15.320] saw that [01:28:17.280] control panel out of UFO and said, [01:28:19.840] that’s out of UFO. [01:28:21.800] I mean, they ran me out of that place. [01:28:24.240] >> Because there’s a group called, I [01:28:26.080] believe, the Borderlands Research [01:28:28.080] Society. [01:28:29.000] >> I’ve never heard of that one. [01:28:29.920] >> They’re from the ’40s, back in the day, [01:28:31.840] and they were dabbling in kind of the [01:28:33.280] occult. [01:28:34.640] But, they were doing some early remote [01:28:36.120] viewing techniques, and there seems to [01:28:37.760] be some documentation gathered by [01:28:40.960] researcher friend of mine named Richard [01:28:42.440] Geldrich. She’s amazing. [01:28:44.360] And he says that they knew about some of [01:28:46.840] the early crashes in the ’40s and ’50s [01:28:49.000] before the Army and the Air Force. [01:28:51.840] And so, I think if, you know, if you’re [01:28:54.120] what you were saying earlier, that like [01:28:56.480] when we move into the psychic or remote [01:28:59.560] viewing paradigm, we’re kind of bumping [01:29:01.560] into the epistemological framework of [01:29:03.960] the non-humans. [01:29:05.040] >> Right. [01:29:05.640] >> Then [01:29:06.920] if you were to try to have a really [01:29:08.920] vital UFO crash retrieval team, you [01:29:12.080] probably would use remote viewing in [01:29:14.720] order to spot where the UFOs actually [01:29:16.920] crashed. [01:29:18.400] >> Oh, and there are other methods, too. [01:29:20.920] >> Okay. [01:29:22.320] >> I mean, one of the things you always [01:29:24.000] hear about a UFO crash, [01:29:26.080] within minutes the government was there. [01:29:29.320] >> You right. So, that implies some [01:29:31.061] [clears throat] sort of like almost [01:29:32.040] foreknowledge or really low latency, you [01:29:35.280] know, almost like [01:29:37.120] quantum entanglement style understanding [01:29:39.120] that would come from remote viewing more [01:29:40.960] than it would from traditional [01:29:42.440] communications. [01:29:43.240] >> No, I think traditional methods. Um [01:29:46.800] You’ve seen one of them. [01:29:49.360] >> What’s that? [01:29:50.000] >> On TV. [01:29:51.600] Oh, there’s a [01:29:54.320] a clip that they show on TV every now [01:29:56.280] and then of this [01:29:58.200] UFO that’s coming in, and a beam go [01:30:01.120] like that, and the thing turns around [01:30:02.600] and leaves. [01:30:04.080] And they say, oh, that was just water on [01:30:06.440] the window. [01:30:07.360] >> Mhm. [01:30:08.360] >> In space, there’s no water on the [01:30:10.120] window. Come on. [01:30:11.672] >> [laughter] [01:30:12.560] >> And [gasps] uh [01:30:13.800] and um we have [01:30:17.480] UFO weapons. We have identification [01:30:20.680] friend and foe. [01:30:22.440] We already have those things. [01:30:23.720] >> So, do you believe that we have a vital [01:30:26.200] UFO crash retrieval and reverse [01:30:28.040] engineering program? [01:30:29.680] >> Yeah. [01:30:30.080] >> And do you think that’s tied in with [01:30:31.720] remote viewing programs? [01:30:33.120] >> I don’t think so. [01:30:34.240] >> You don’t think so? [01:30:35.080] >> I don’t think so. Uh we were never [01:30:37.000] tasked with it. [01:30:38.000] >> Okay. [01:30:38.680] >> There was only one time that I’ve heard [01:30:41.760] of [01:30:43.160] uh I wasn’t there at the time that we [01:30:45.560] officially got tasked with a UFO target. [01:30:48.200] >> Mhm. [01:30:48.840] >> All of the rest of the times that we did [01:30:51.960] a lot of UFO stuff [01:30:54.247] >> [sighs and gasps] [01:30:54.920] >> uh came under the heading of practice [01:30:58.160] sessions [01:31:00.000] or [01:31:02.280] some [01:31:03.600] two or three star general might come up [01:31:05.400] to your desk and say [01:31:07.240] “Hey, would you do me a favor?” [01:31:11.800] And what are you going to say? No, sir? [01:31:15.440] As a two star and you’ve got a sergeant [01:31:18.080] saying, “No, sir.” That’s not going to [01:31:19.720] happen. [01:31:20.200] >> Well, didn’t you remote view um the 1980 [01:31:23.480] Rendlesham Forest incident? [01:31:25.360] >> Oh, yeah. [01:31:25.920] >> Where this is um you know, uh Royal Air [01:31:28.640] Force Woodbridge [01:31:30.480] uh where you have sort of um [01:31:33.200] uh Royal Air Force uh United States Air [01:31:35.480] Force combined group uh [01:31:38.400] in England near Rendlesham Forest. [01:31:40.720] >> Yeah. [01:31:40.920] >> And [01:31:41.760] >> One of my fortes is drawing floor plans. [01:31:45.280] >> Okay. [01:31:46.080] >> Uh of the insides of buildings. And I [01:31:48.720] was the one that drew the uh [01:31:50.800] that went inside that triangular craft [01:31:54.360] and actually drew the floor plans and [01:31:56.160] the insides and all that. [01:31:57.560] >> Really? [01:31:58.360] >> Yeah. Now, [01:32:00.320] to be honest [01:32:01.240] >> Can I back up though and just the [01:32:02.480] audience a little bit of context? [01:32:03.960] >> Oh, okay. [01:32:04.400] >> So, 1980 uh three different uh US Air [01:32:07.960] Force sergeants uh Jim Penniston, John [01:32:11.240] Burroughs [01:32:12.240] >> Mhm. [01:32:12.560] >> I’m blanking on the third guy’s name. [01:32:14.200] All come across this They first they see [01:32:16.720] this triangle flying in the woods. [01:32:18.400] >> Yeah. [01:32:18.600] >> Then they see it land. [01:32:19.800] >> Yeah. [01:32:19.960] >> And I believe uh Penniston and Burroughs [01:32:21.840] even went right up to it. [01:32:23.440] >> Yeah. [01:32:23.600] >> And and and and so and it’s this black [01:32:25.440] triangle and then they found [01:32:26.480] indentations in the thing and you had um [01:32:29.800] Lord uh Hill-Norton who was uh you know, [01:32:32.080] head of the Admiral of the Fleet [01:32:33.280] >> Mhm. [01:32:33.560] >> um you know, saying, you know, I think [01:32:35.120] this happened. You had uh Colonel Halt [01:32:37.960] uh who was who was there, who was in [01:32:39.360] charge at the time [01:32:40.640] >> Yeah. [01:32:40.880] >> you know, doing a formal investigation [01:32:42.360] saying this happened. And so, you were [01:32:44.200] Were you formally tasked with looking [01:32:45.960] inside of this triangle UFO? [01:32:48.240] >> As a practice target. [01:32:50.920] >> As a practice target? [01:32:52.080] >> As a prac- We were never officially [01:32:54.640] changed charged in the chain of command [01:32:58.040] with doing UFO targets. [01:33:00.160] >> Who assigned you that as a practice [01:33:01.680] target? [01:33:02.400] >> Um [01:33:05.280] I forget who it came from. It wasn’t Ed [01:33:07.760] Ed Dames. He was always giving us UFO [01:33:10.560] targets. [01:33:11.560] >> Ed Dames was? [01:33:12.720] >> Yeah. [01:33:13.360] >> So, do you think these guys [01:33:14.800] >> This was different. I forget who it came [01:33:16.760] from. [01:33:17.240] >> So, it’s almost like there’s a different [01:33:18.840] line of command that’s in- interested in [01:33:21.240] the UFO now? [01:33:21.800] >> No, there’s In any organization, you [01:33:24.440] have the formal organization and the [01:33:26.400] informal. [01:33:27.760] >> So, what’s this informal organization [01:33:29.600] that’s interested in UFO stuff? [01:33:31.640] >> Well, it’s totally unorganized. Like I [01:33:34.800] say, you [01:33:35.640] >> You think it’s just emergent and like [01:33:37.360] personal personal interest based? [01:33:38.960] >> A two-star comes by your desk and says, [01:33:41.640] “Will you do me a favor?” [01:33:43.560] You’re not going to say no. [01:33:44.880] >> Is the two-star though like are they [01:33:47.200] getting interested because they’re like [01:33:49.600] “I heard this crazy thing. I want to [01:33:51.840] know.” Or is it more of like a some sort [01:33:54.560] of secret other branch? [01:33:56.880] >> are all interested. [01:33:59.000] >> But it’s pure personal interest. You [01:34:00.400] don’t think somebody’s telling the [01:34:01.440] two-star, “Hey, get one of your best [01:34:03.800] guys to look at this.” [01:34:05.510] >> [laughter] [01:34:06.040] >> Okay. [01:34:07.120] >> But do I suspect that they’re Yeah. [01:34:10.000] >> So, you think there might be another [01:34:10.960] line of command, another chain of [01:34:12.480] command? [01:34:13.040] >> Well, you know, it’s like they say about [01:34:15.600] the UFOs, they think what is our danger [01:34:20.120] to air air superiority. That’s become an [01:34:23.320] official thing. [01:34:25.280] And so, are they going to task a remote [01:34:27.800] viewer with it? [01:34:29.360] Not officially. [01:34:31.080] >> Mhm. [01:34:32.080] >> They’re going to come by your desk and [01:34:33.600] say, [01:34:34.600] “Hey, would you do me a favor?” [01:34:36.950] >> [clears throat] [01:34:37.200] >> So, you do this guy a favor, this [01:34:39.520] two-star general, and [01:34:41.000] >> And and they walk out with the answer [01:34:43.680] and you never hear about it again. [01:34:45.440] >> What was inside of this triangle craft? [01:34:48.320] >> Uh it was um intelligently [01:34:52.360] automated. [01:34:53.880] There were no beings inside of it. [01:34:56.320] There was a uh place where [01:34:59.480] samples [01:35:01.160] were being [01:35:02.720] preserved. And this thing was going by [01:35:05.640] and finding sample [01:35:07.360] samples of [01:35:10.355] >> [gasps] [01:35:11.400] >> I don’t know if it was soil or plant [01:35:13.320] stuff or whatever, but there was a place [01:35:15.840] in there where the samples were being [01:35:18.280] kept. [01:35:20.280] And uh [01:35:22.040] and then somehow the [01:35:25.400] craft would seem to communicate back [01:35:28.440] that it had found something. [01:35:30.640] But it was totally self-automated. There [01:35:32.800] were no There were no beings in it at [01:35:34.520] all. [01:35:36.040] >> And what any other features of the [01:35:38.200] craft, the color, the the [01:35:40.360] >> Yeah, it was [01:35:41.760] red sort of reddish light inside. Uh [01:35:45.200] there was a control panel, so [01:35:48.080] it could be controlled by beings. [01:35:50.280] And uh [01:35:51.720] there was this, um, [01:35:53.680] small hallway that went back to a [01:35:57.840] chamber where [01:35:59.880] samples were being held. Notice that. [01:36:02.320] >> Samples of [01:36:04.080] >> of whatever it was it was picking up and [01:36:06.760] finding. [01:36:07.360] >> Mhm. [01:36:07.960] >> Cuz it was out searching. [01:36:09.760] >> It’s like this automated drone sort of [01:36:12.000] thing. [01:36:12.040] >> Automated drone, yeah. [01:36:13.200] >> Mhm. [01:36:14.600] And I believe Colonel John Alexander [01:36:16.680] knew about Rendlesham before just about [01:36:19.040] anybody else in the United States. [01:36:20.840] >> yeah. [01:36:21.360] >> Was he involved in your I guess you [01:36:23.200] can’t probably say or [01:36:24.720] >> No, uh, John was, um, [01:36:28.880] rarely [01:36:30.360] I don’t think he was ever involved in [01:36:32.200] our unit. [01:36:32.960] >> Okay. [01:36:33.600] >> Uh, Bert, uh, [01:36:36.240] Albert Stubblebine, General Stubblebine, [01:36:39.440] uh, became a really good friend. I [01:36:41.360] always call him Bert. And, uh, [01:36:44.240] uh, Bert, uh, [01:36:47.320] intentionally kept him out of it. [01:36:49.680] >> Albert Stubblebine is a very interesting [01:36:52.560] figure who seems very conspiratorial [01:36:55.960] himself. [01:36:56.840] >> He became like a second father to me. I [01:36:59.520] just treasure that man. [01:37:01.280] >> What What is his [01:37:03.400] Tell Tell us about him cuz he’s this [01:37:04.880] very intriguing figure in kind of UFO [01:37:07.760] lore. Like when Steven Greer, for [01:37:10.240] example, or initially gets into all this [01:37:13.000] stuff he sort of he was this emergency [01:37:14.960] medical doctor and then he develops [01:37:16.560] CE-5, this protocol to sort of call in [01:37:18.960] UFOs. [01:37:19.840] >> Yeah. Uh-huh. [01:37:20.320] >> And Stubblebine is first on the scene [01:37:22.600] to, you know, [01:37:23.920] >> Yeah. [01:37:24.360] >> uh, ostensibly try to almost recruit him [01:37:26.520] into some sort of government program. [01:37:28.640] >> Yeah. [01:37:29.280] >> So what is what is Stubblebine like? [01:37:31.680] What’s his deal? [01:37:32.280] >> in it. Bert had the, um, [01:37:34.600] project going where he had people out [01:37:37.000] looking for, [01:37:38.200] uh, [01:37:38.840] PK events and things like this. That’s [01:37:41.560] how [01:37:42.317] >> [sighs and gasps] [01:37:42.600] >> that’s how I got reported to Bert who [01:37:46.280] was head of the Intelligence and [01:37:48.240] Security Command. That’s why he came out [01:37:50.960] to the [01:37:52.440] unit and wanted to talk to me. [01:37:54.680] And um [01:37:56.480] add that We’ve seen the movie The Men [01:37:59.120] Who Stare at Goats. [01:38:00.040] >> Yeah. [01:38:00.520] >> He shoved me into the office [01:38:03.400] and um [01:38:05.240] told the commander, “I need to talk to [01:38:07.080] Sergeant Buchanan and get out, you [01:38:08.560] know.” [01:38:09.400] He turned to me and got up in my face [01:38:11.880] and said, [01:38:13.080] “Did you kill my computer with your [01:38:15.400] mind?” [01:38:17.440] And I thought, “I have got to lie about [01:38:19.960] this.” [01:38:21.920] I knew I had. And I could see my [01:38:24.520] grandchildren paying for computers. You [01:38:27.480] know, basically I heard myself say, [01:38:30.160] “Yes, sir, I did.” [01:38:32.520] And [01:38:34.080] the [01:38:35.280] grin that comes across General Hapgood’s [01:38:38.040] face in that movie [01:38:39.480] >> Mhm. [01:38:40.280] >> is exactly the grin that came across [01:38:43.720] uh Bert’s face. [01:38:45.160] And you can [01:38:47.760] you can bleep this out if you want. [01:38:50.880] Just immediately, right there in my [01:38:52.640] face, he said, [01:38:54.360] “Far out if I ever got a job for [01:38:57.360] you.” [01:38:57.800] >> Uh that’s [laughter] awesome. [01:38:59.800] >> Yeah. [01:39:00.520] >> Wow. [01:39:01.360] >> Yeah. [01:39:02.240] >> Who do you think tasked him initially [01:39:04.560] with assembling this X-Men team of [01:39:08.160] psychic [01:39:08.920] >> his own. He got all kinds of flak from [01:39:11.160] that. [01:39:11.840] >> Really? He really did. [01:39:13.240] >> So he kind of went rogue a little bit. [01:39:15.000] >> Yeah. [01:39:15.680] >> Mhm. [01:39:17.440] Such a fascinating world, you know, all [01:39:19.880] this stuff. And I always I find it [01:39:21.560] interesting, too, cuz you have Hal [01:39:22.840] Puthoff [01:39:24.000] is one of these guys who’s kind of [01:39:26.080] you know, one of the godfathers of [01:39:27.560] remote viewing. [01:39:28.400] >> He’s great. [01:39:29.120] >> Amazing guy. [01:39:30.120] >> Yeah. [01:39:30.680] >> And but then he also is at the forefront [01:39:33.120] of the UFO stuff. And I that has to be [01:39:35.120] significant, like to me at least. I [01:39:37.440] think there has to be this like [01:39:39.080] essential overlap between these two [01:39:41.840] things. [01:39:44.120] Okay. [01:39:46.080] Um [01:39:50.160] You’ve heard a lot of stories that when [01:39:52.200] a person gets abducted, they suddenly [01:39:54.200] start having psychic ability. [01:39:56.400] >> So, yes. [01:39:57.160] >> Okay. [01:39:58.400] I was tasked to do a paper that as soon [01:40:02.000] as I turned it in, it [01:40:03.840] disappeared. I don’t know if it’s in [01:40:05.800] that [01:40:07.160] place where here that big warehouse [01:40:10.280] where [01:40:11.400] uh [01:40:12.360] uh [01:40:13.760] at the end of the Indiana Jones movie. [01:40:16.080] The task was [01:40:18.560] compare and contrast [01:40:21.920] our psychic ability with the ET psychic [01:40:25.920] ability. [01:40:27.760] And um [01:40:31.480] I got access to a bunch of stuff that [01:40:34.080] most people will never see. But um the [01:40:37.120] end result of that study that I did, I [01:40:40.000] had already found out [01:40:42.280] that you can divide psychically [01:40:46.080] the ETs into four different groups. [01:40:48.960] Uh there’s not [01:40:50.520] us and them, there’s us and them and [01:40:52.040] them and them and them and them and them [01:40:53.360] and them. [01:40:54.280] And uh you can cut them into four [01:40:56.160] different groups, friends and enemies. [01:40:59.640] And those who have more psychic ability [01:41:02.360] than we have, and those who are equal or [01:41:05.200] less psychic than we are. [01:41:07.334] >> [gasps] [01:41:07.840] >> The [01:41:08.960] enemies who are equal or less than we [01:41:11.600] are [01:41:13.080] try to stay away from here. [01:41:14.920] They don’t like us. Okay. [01:41:17.159] >> [sighs] [01:41:17.960] >> The friends who are less or equal to us [01:41:22.560] psychically [01:41:24.000] come here for trade. [01:41:26.520] Come here for trade. [01:41:28.240] And um [01:41:30.000] the [01:41:31.680] ones who are more psychic than we are [01:41:34.160] and friends want us to become psychic. [01:41:37.560] >> Mhm. [01:41:39.720] >> The ones who are enemies and more [01:41:42.960] psychic than we are don’t want us off [01:41:45.240] this planet. They’d be very happy to [01:41:47.560] just wipe the planet off, you know. [01:41:50.280] Kill all human spirit. [01:41:52.200] And uh I couldn’t figure out why. [01:41:55.440] And this one um [01:41:57.720] this one event that [01:42:00.200] I got the record of. [01:42:02.840] There were three guys camping at a lake. [01:42:06.480] And they It was night time. They saw a [01:42:09.880] UFO come. And they were standing there [01:42:12.440] on the lake looking at it. [01:42:14.640] It came up right over them. And all of a [01:42:18.040] sudden they couldn’t move. They were [01:42:19.400] frozen. And they got abducted. [01:42:22.480] And there was something about that [01:42:26.960] that uh [01:42:28.560] sort of just [01:42:30.320] made everything that I’d studied before [01:42:32.640] that fall together. [01:42:34.680] And that is that [01:42:36.600] those ETs had much more psychic ability [01:42:40.160] than the humans, but no range. [01:42:43.360] >> Mhm. [01:42:44.040] >> They had to be right over them in order [01:42:46.640] to do anything. [01:42:47.720] >> Mhm. [01:42:48.520] >> With the remote viewing we can see [01:42:51.080] across space and time [01:42:54.000] like looking across the room at stove or [01:42:56.480] something, you know? [01:42:57.440] >> Mhm. [01:42:58.000] >> No different. [01:42:59.840] If we develop our psychic ability [01:43:04.000] when we get out in the space [01:43:07.440] we are going to be a power in the [01:43:09.120] universe because we can see [01:43:11.720] way into the future [01:43:14.520] anywhere in space and all that. [01:43:17.560] And evidently they can’t. [01:43:19.480] >> Mhm. [01:43:20.720] >> And so we have that ability. That’s why [01:43:24.120] our friends want us out there. [01:43:28.120] And our enemies don’t want us off [01:43:30.680] through planet. [01:43:32.160] >> Do you have a sense of like [01:43:34.480] a taxonomies of non-human intelligence, [01:43:37.600] like the species and stuff cuz [01:43:40.400] I’m not going to lie. When I [01:43:42.800] speak to people about when people [01:43:44.840] volunteer information about this, I’m [01:43:46.600] often skeptical. And then in the event [01:43:49.560] in which we are, you know, being visited [01:43:52.120] by non-human intelligence, which I [01:43:53.720] believe we are, [01:43:54.920] >> Oh, yeah. [01:43:55.400] >> then [01:43:56.600] it’s somehow obviously very important to [01:43:58.400] categorize them as you as you just have. [01:44:01.160] But can you categorize them further by [01:44:03.680] they’re from XYZ planet, you know, [01:44:06.240] >> Oh, you mean in those four groups? [01:44:08.000] >> Yeah, I mean like the classic thing [01:44:09.240] would be like Nordic, grays, reptilians, [01:44:11.440] like [01:44:11.880] >> found it was that like the Nordics, the [01:44:15.040] grays, and all that [01:44:16.360] >> Mhm. [01:44:17.200] >> fit into all four groups. [01:44:18.960] >> Mhm. [01:44:19.520] >> So, there are grays that hate us, grays [01:44:21.720] that like us, grays that are more [01:44:24.120] psychic than we are, grays that [01:44:26.160] >> Mhm. [01:44:27.240] >> couldn’t view their way out of a paper [01:44:28.760] bag if the top was open, you know, and [01:44:31.800] uh [01:44:32.680] like many of us. [01:44:34.160] And um [01:44:35.840] and that [01:44:37.720] there was no [01:44:39.560] seemed to be no separating them [01:44:42.880] according to type into any of those four [01:44:45.720] groups that [01:44:47.880] at some point [01:44:51.880] there are [01:44:54.160] people in any of those four groups that [01:44:56.840] I mean in any race [01:44:59.600] that fit into all those four groups. [01:45:01.560] >> Have you ever seen a UFO in a hangar? [01:45:05.840] >> Not in a hangar. [01:45:07.480] Well, [01:45:08.720] uh in the viewing of um Mount Hayes, uh [01:45:11.960] Mount um [01:45:14.720] Mount Zion. [01:45:16.000] >> Have you ever seen a UFO [01:45:18.280] in the possession of the American [01:45:20.080] military? Not just a UFO that’s flying [01:45:22.960] around, you know, in the woods somewhere [01:45:24.840] or something like that. [01:45:25.480] >> one I’ve seen was in that hangar [01:45:27.920] where the collision had taken place and [01:45:29.840] there was just a a massive dump of [01:45:33.080] of [01:45:33.923] >> [sighs] [01:45:34.360] >> debris and that [01:45:36.560] uh [01:45:38.200] that control panel was there in that [01:45:40.800] debris. [01:45:41.400] >> And so where was this? Where did you see [01:45:43.560] this? [01:45:45.600] >> You’re about to where I can’t answer. [01:45:48.120] >> Can’t answer. Um [01:45:50.760] But so you must have had a very high [01:45:52.760] clearance at the time. [01:45:54.560] >> Oh yeah, I had one of the highest [01:45:56.080] clearances uh [01:45:58.158] >> [gasps] [01:45:58.720] >> not only for the remote viewing but for [01:46:00.960] other stuff that I’ve done [01:46:03.920] that will never be talked about. And [01:46:08.480] I’ve heard that only 17 people have ever [01:46:11.200] had that. [01:46:12.120] >> Really? [01:46:12.560] >> I don’t know if that’s true or not. [01:46:14.200] >> So it’s basically the highest clearance [01:46:16.240] you can get? [01:46:17.840] >> Oh. [01:46:19.320] When I was given that clearance [01:46:21.480] I asked that he said that’s the highest [01:46:23.320] clearance I’ve ever given anybody. [01:46:25.480] And I said, “Well, what is the highest [01:46:27.280] clearance?” [01:46:28.680] He said, “Oh, there is one but nobody [01:46:31.080] ever gets it.” And I said, “What’s [01:46:32.760] that?” He said, “Truth.” [01:46:35.493] >> [laughter] [01:46:36.720] >> Truth, I like that. [01:46:38.240] >> Truth, nobody learns the truth. [01:46:40.080] >> Yeah, that’s funny. [01:46:41.480] But you had the highest human clearance [01:46:44.160] in the federal government. [01:46:45.760] >> I just I had the highest clearance of [01:46:48.240] anybody I’ve ever met. And one time uh [01:46:51.400] Burt and I were out at [01:46:53.040] out lunch and he said, “What is your [01:46:55.040] clearance?” And I said, [01:46:56.600] uh [01:46:58.120] uh TS/SI/SAP. [01:47:01.560] And [01:47:02.640] his [01:47:05.200] utensils went down he said, [01:47:07.560] “What?” He said, “I can’t even get [01:47:10.000] that.” [01:47:11.519] >> [laughter] [01:47:12.400] >> Oh. [01:47:13.480] >> And so anyway, but it was because of [01:47:16.720] other work that [01:47:19.800] outside of the remote viewing unit and [01:47:21.880] outside of all the other that uh uh [01:47:26.840] I was doing. [01:47:27.720] >> Mhm. [01:47:29.160] Well, I think that clearance needs a [01:47:30.840] little bit of a rebrand for our [01:47:32.200] audience. That is not SIOP, [01:47:34.120] psychological operation. [01:47:35.640] >> No, it’s not. [01:47:36.409] >> [laughter] [01:47:37.080] >> Strategic and [01:47:38.480] integrated operational, SIOP. [01:47:40.600] >> SIOP. [01:47:42.040] >> Yeah. [01:47:42.240] >> Uh so, don’t get any ideas. But, um um [01:47:45.440] this UFO [01:47:47.200] that you saw the debris of in a hangar, [01:47:49.280] did you see that in person? [01:47:50.880] >> Yeah. [01:47:51.480] >> So, that wasn’t a remote viewing [01:47:52.560] session? [01:47:53.800] >> No, that wasn’t a remote viewing. I was [01:47:55.360] standing there in front of it and [01:47:56.880] >> You were standing in front of a crashed [01:47:58.560] UFO in a hangar. [01:48:01.400] >> This hangar was dealing with mid-air [01:48:04.240] collisions. [01:48:05.760] And so, the guy [01:48:08.000] my friend was showing me around and [01:48:09.680] showing me how they put the planes back [01:48:11.520] together and all that. And they had [01:48:13.440] these piles of rubble all over and they [01:48:15.560] were, you know, [01:48:17.480] to figure out what happened with the [01:48:18.920] mid-air collision. And we passed by this [01:48:20.880] one [01:48:21.920] and here was the control panel of a UFO, [01:48:24.080] which I had seen and operated before. [01:48:26.760] And uh [01:48:28.120] and I said, [01:48:30.560] “That’s out of UFO.” [01:48:33.080] And it echoed in this [01:48:35.400] metal Quonset [01:48:38.320] building. [01:48:39.880] And immediately [01:48:42.280] the [01:48:44.320] uh [01:48:46.160] colonel who was in charge came running [01:48:48.840] out of his office and I mean, just ran [01:48:50.720] me out of the place. [01:48:54.355] >> [laughter] [01:48:54.840] >> A lot of questions. So, you said [01:48:57.120] something interesting there. You said, [01:48:58.240] “Which I had operated before.” So, you [01:49:01.160] knew that this was a UFO [01:49:04.240] control panel because you had some prior [01:49:06.320] experience with it. [01:49:07.200] >> I had I was I had a [01:49:10.560] I was abducted. [01:49:11.880] >> Mhm. [01:49:12.280] >> Okay? [01:49:13.600] Uh I was a Methodist minister [01:49:17.080] uh in East Texas. [01:49:20.040] And the um [01:49:22.400] Methodist used [01:49:24.200] they move their [01:49:26.200] young preachers around from church to [01:49:28.160] church to give them experience. [01:49:30.920] Every year you move to a different [01:49:32.400] church. [01:49:33.440] And uh, it was time to move. My family [01:49:36.320] had already moved to the new parsonage. [01:49:38.880] >> And when you say parsonage [01:49:40.280] >> Parsonage is where the preacher lives. [01:49:43.200] It’s the house where the preacher lives. [01:49:44.840] >> Okay. [01:49:45.720] >> I was cleaning out the old parsonage. [01:49:48.000] Got it all cleaned out. Everything was [01:49:49.720] in the U-Haul. [01:49:51.800] And um [01:49:53.280] it was late at night. [01:49:55.200] And I was tired. So, I made a pallet [01:49:57.400] down on the living room floor. [01:50:00.680] And laid down. [01:50:03.120] Um, and [clears throat] [01:50:06.640] I was wide awake. [01:50:09.640] And I heard something land in the [01:50:11.120] backyard. [01:50:12.800] Now, this was a country church. [01:50:16.960] We were [01:50:18.800] over a quarter mile off the nearest [01:50:20.840] road. [01:50:21.960] In the woods and all that. And um [01:50:25.080] and I heard something land in the [01:50:27.400] backyard. [01:50:28.676] >> [gasps] [01:50:29.240] >> And I knew it wasn’t a helicopter. [01:50:32.680] It didn’t sound like a helicopter. It [01:50:34.920] sounded like um [01:50:38.560] uh, the the best [01:50:41.560] example I can give is where some kid [01:50:44.240] sticks a playing card spoke of his [01:50:47.000] bicycle and [01:50:48.520] and you put it [01:50:50.160] It was like that. [01:50:51.720] And uh, so [01:50:54.680] I was going to get up and [01:50:56.600] go to the back room and see what was in [01:50:58.520] the backyard. [01:50:59.760] I couldn’t move. And I was wide awake. [01:51:02.120] It wasn’t sleep paralysis at all. I was [01:51:04.320] wide awake. [01:51:05.640] I couldn’t move. And I heard somebody [01:51:09.400] walking around the house to the front [01:51:11.640] window looking in. [01:51:14.527] >> [sighs and gasps] [01:51:15.520] >> And immediately I woke up [01:51:18.560] and I was sitting [01:51:20.160] in a white room. [01:51:22.360] There were two rows of seats. [01:51:24.960] And I was sitting here. [01:51:28.600] There was an elderly elder woman sitting [01:51:31.880] here. [01:51:32.960] I tried talking to her and she was just [01:51:34.760] frozen. [01:51:36.120] And there were empty seats over here in [01:51:37.640] the window. [01:51:39.760] Now, when I fly [01:51:42.160] I have to have a window seat. [01:51:44.560] I [01:51:45.640] can’t deal with being inside. You know, [01:51:48.360] I I have to have a window seat. [01:51:49.800] Especially on a UFO. [01:51:51.600] Well, no, in a plane, you know. [01:51:53.827] >> [laughter] [01:51:54.200] >> And so I was sitting there and this [01:51:58.760] tall [01:52:00.200] muscled up must been must have been 7 ft [01:52:03.280] tall [01:52:04.240] and muscled up like Arnold [01:52:06.120] Schwarzenegger [01:52:07.520] and just pale as could be [01:52:10.000] uh came into the room there. [01:52:13.960] And I said, “Excuse me, can I sit by the [01:52:17.600] window?” He got this look of fear on his [01:52:20.760] face and turned around and ran out. [01:52:23.520] And uh [01:52:25.240] so a few minutes later [01:52:27.400] a little gray with three of these big [01:52:29.960] guys huddled behind the gray for [01:52:32.800] protection. You know, [01:52:35.200] uh came in and the gray started talking [01:52:37.360] to me and I would nod almost going to [01:52:39.920] sleep and then wake up. [01:52:41.642] >> [gasps] [01:52:42.080] >> Finally the gray said [01:52:44.440] “You know, we’ve got work to do. Come [01:52:46.600] with me.” [01:52:48.000] He took me up front. He was the pilot. [01:52:51.280] And [01:52:52.360] uh he had me kneel down [01:52:54.560] in front of the control panel. [01:52:56.708] >> [gasps] [01:52:57.440] >> With me kneeling down [01:53:00.000] and him standing we were eye to eye. [01:53:03.280] So that tells you his size, you know. [01:53:06.280] But um [01:53:07.520] I was watching him. He was talking. We [01:53:10.080] were talking to each other and all that. [01:53:12.000] We We would land [01:53:14.560] the [01:53:15.440] tall white guys would go out and come [01:53:17.160] back in and I guess they were picking up [01:53:19.400] more people. [01:53:20.800] We’d take off again and finally he said, [01:53:23.040] uh, “We’re going on a long jump now.” [01:53:26.360] And, uh, so we went on this thing where [01:53:28.720] we didn’t land for quite a while. [01:53:31.280] And, uh, I said, [01:53:33.240] “I’ve been watching. Can I Can I try [01:53:35.320] it?” [01:53:36.440] And he said, “No, human hands are too [01:53:38.080] small.” [01:53:39.283] >> [sighs and gasps] [01:53:39.520] >> Well, I have some very large hands. [01:53:42.000] And so, [01:53:43.680] uh, [01:53:44.400] he said, “Put your hand up.” And I put [01:53:47.040] my hand up. He put his up and his were [01:53:49.280] almost the same We were almost the same [01:53:51.240] size hands. [01:53:52.800] And, uh, [01:53:54.320] so he said, “I’ll let you try.” [01:53:58.440] And I tried it and didn’t wreck the [01:54:01.920] place. I I didn’t wreck the thing, but [01:54:04.760] he was standing right over me just in [01:54:06.400] case, you know. And, um, so I tried it [01:54:09.600] and I learned how to do it. Anyway, we [01:54:12.160] landed at some place that was not Earth. [01:54:16.280] And, uh, the sky was black. The sun was [01:54:19.400] out, but very dim. [01:54:21.400] And, um, [01:54:23.040] and [01:54:25.200] looked out the window, the front window, [01:54:28.120] and there were two other ships. [01:54:30.400] There was a string of people [01:54:32.880] going. [01:54:34.200] And I asked him, “What do you do here?” [01:54:36.520] And he said, “We’re medical team.” He [01:54:38.640] said, um, [01:54:40.240] “We catch a lot of diseases going [01:54:42.920] spaces around space.” And he said, [01:54:46.040] “We have no immunity. [01:54:48.040] But, you people are like [01:54:50.440] antibody factories. We use your [01:54:52.680] antibodies [01:54:54.160] for health.” They said, “There are only [01:54:55.760] three of three of our ships.” And all [01:54:57.480] that. [01:54:58.560] And so, anyway, [01:55:00.280] um, [01:55:02.040] came our time to get off and I filed [01:55:05.840] back with the other people and I was [01:55:08.000] getting off and they were going up this [01:55:10.984] >> [gasps] [01:55:11.640] >> uh path to a pavilion that was up on the [01:55:14.680] hill. [01:55:16.000] He grabbed me by the arm and he said, [01:55:18.360] “You don’t want to go up there.” [01:55:20.520] And uh he pulled me over to the side and [01:55:22.960] we sat down on the grass on the hillside [01:55:26.680] and the grass was totally black, which I [01:55:29.600] found out [01:55:30.880] from somebody later. They said, “Well, [01:55:32.720] of course it was black. With no [01:55:35.920] bright sun, it had to absorb different [01:55:38.160] rays and so it had to be black to absorb [01:55:40.640] I don’t know.” They gave me a scientific [01:55:42.600] reason for it. [01:55:43.735] >> [gasps] [01:55:43.920] >> But um [01:55:46.560] as we sat there, we were talking [01:55:49.360] and you could hear up on the hill [01:55:51.200] somebody would scream in horror and [01:55:54.120] everybody would else would laugh. [01:55:57.280] And then it’d go quiet. And then [01:55:59.480] somebody else would scream in horror and [01:56:01.560] everybody would laugh and all that and [01:56:03.400] they they took turns. [01:56:05.350] >> [sighs and gasps] [01:56:05.680] >> And so I was glad I wasn’t up there. [01:56:08.960] But anyway, as we talked, he was [01:56:11.120] answering questions and we were talking [01:56:13.320] and um I said, “Well, [01:56:15.920] what are you implanting in us?” [01:56:19.520] And he was confused. He [01:56:22.320] said, “We don’t implant anything into [01:56:24.360] you.” [01:56:25.160] I said, “Well, we find these [01:56:27.200] these glass-like things and things like [01:56:29.640] that implanted in us.” [01:56:31.760] He said, “Oh, you people won’t be still. [01:56:34.280] The tips of our instruments wear off.” [01:56:36.790] >> [sighs and gasps] [01:56:37.560] >> And I said, “Well, [01:56:40.480] why do you stick those?” He said, [01:56:43.680] “Because we take [01:56:46.280] one or two cells of our diseased tissue, [01:56:50.000] put it on that tip and implant it into [01:56:52.480] you and you will start making [01:56:54.080] antibodies. [01:56:56.000] And then we come back and harvest the [01:56:57.760] antibodies. [01:56:59.160] And he said, “You people won’t be still, [01:57:00.720] the tips break off.” [01:57:02.520] >> Mhm. [01:57:03.480] >> And so that’s what that was. [01:57:05.720] >> Uh [01:57:06.360] so, when you say that you heard laughing [01:57:09.800] and then, you know, somebody would shout [01:57:11.960] out [01:57:12.480] >> gang would laugh while somebody was [01:57:14.360] screaming and and just pain and horror. [01:57:17.240] >> So, do you think that was like an [01:57:18.400] operation going on? [01:57:19.880] >> They were doing something to them. I’m [01:57:21.840] not sure what. [01:57:22.960] >> This antibody infusion? [01:57:25.160] >> I guess. [01:57:26.000] >> Yeah. Or this tissue infusion that would [01:57:27.560] create the antibodies? [01:57:28.760] >> I don’t know. I wasn’t up there. So, but [01:57:31.160] that’s what I’m guessing. [01:57:32.240] >> is once you’ve landed on Do you know [01:57:33.840] where this other planet is? [01:57:35.440] >> No, I don’t. Uh-oh. I just know it [01:57:37.400] wasn’t Earth. I knew that. [01:57:39.800] >> Is the other guy, you know, the 7-ft guy [01:57:42.600] who looked like Arnold Schwarzenegger? [01:57:44.440] >> They were still on the ship, I guess. I [01:57:46.880] was sitting there with the little gray [01:57:48.520] on the on the hillside. [01:57:50.560] >> So, it’s like the grays and the, you [01:57:52.320] know, these like Nordic-like things are [01:57:54.200] working together? [01:57:56.240] >> These weren’t Nordics. [01:57:57.800] >> What were they? [01:57:59.160] >> They were just [01:58:00.760] They struck me as being dumb as a rock. [01:58:03.480] >> Mhm. [01:58:03.920] >> Uh [01:58:05.320] Uh they were just [01:58:07.240] workers [01:58:08.800] for the gray. [01:58:10.200] I don’t know what they were doing. They [01:58:11.960] were going out and getting people and [01:58:13.320] coming back. [01:58:14.386] >> [gasps] [01:58:15.120] >> How do you fly a UFO? [01:58:17.661] >> [sighs] [01:58:18.680] >> Um [01:58:20.320] Well, [01:58:21.960] let me go on with the story, okay? [01:58:23.800] >> Yeah, sure. [01:58:24.640] >> Um [01:58:26.360] Uh [01:58:27.440] when everybody came back down, [01:58:29.720] uh well, while we’re there on the [01:58:31.560] mountain side, [01:58:32.800] on the hillside, um [01:58:35.480] the pilot said to me, “I want some I [01:58:38.400] want you to meet somebody.” He went off [01:58:40.120] and got another one that came back, [01:58:42.520] sat down on the hill behind me and said, [01:58:45.400] “Put up your hand.” [01:58:47.000] So, I put up my hand. He put his hand on [01:58:49.040] the back of mine. [01:58:51.067] >> [sighs and gasps] [01:58:51.800] >> And from that point on, I remembered [01:58:54.760] nothing until the people were coming [01:58:56.840] back down the hill [01:58:58.520] and I was in line with them getting back [01:59:00.640] onto the ship. [01:59:02.857] >> [gasps] [01:59:03.200] >> And uh [01:59:04.600] I turned to the pilot and I said, “I’d [01:59:06.960] like to remember all this.” And he said, [01:59:08.760] “Well, you won’t.” [01:59:12.000] So, [01:59:13.240] the next morning, I was standing at the [01:59:15.760] back window of the parsonage there [01:59:19.040] looking out. [01:59:21.640] Could not remember why I was there. I [01:59:23.640] thought, “Well, have I been sleepwalking [01:59:25.120] or what?” [01:59:26.560] And was just so confused [01:59:29.320] for about 5 or 6 minutes and then I [01:59:32.360] realized, “Oh, yeah. [01:59:34.760] I’m moving to the new parsonage.” [01:59:37.680] So, I gathered up the pallet I had made, [01:59:40.200] threw it into the U-Haul, and drove off [01:59:42.360] thinking [01:59:43.760] I’d forgotten something. [01:59:47.320] Over the next 25 years, [01:59:50.520] that grew and grew and grew until [01:59:53.680] I couldn’t leave the house without going [01:59:55.600] back five times. What have I forgotten? [01:59:57.920] What have I forgotten? [01:59:59.520] And uh no matter where we lived. [02:00:02.280] And so, one day we were headed for [02:00:04.160] church [02:00:05.720] and uh my wife [02:00:08.400] was sick and tired of all this, you you [02:00:10.840] know. [02:00:11.633] >> [gasps] [02:00:11.760] >> And uh so, she said, [02:00:14.280] “Did you check the basement?” Yes, I [02:00:16.040] checked the basement. “Did you check the [02:00:17.200] kitchen? Did you check the stove? Did [02:00:18.880] you check you know?” And I said, “Yes.” [02:00:20.720] And she said, “Did you check the [02:00:22.000] backyard?” [02:00:24.400] And when she said that, [02:00:26.520] 25 years later after the event, it all [02:00:29.880] came flooding back. [02:00:31.938] >> [sighs] [02:00:32.520] >> And I remembered. [02:00:35.120] And [02:00:36.640] I thought, “This is stupid. I’ve never [02:00:39.360] been abducted. Come on, give me a [02:00:41.280] break.” And but it hit me so hard, I sat [02:00:44.280] down on the front steps and I just [02:00:46.160] couldn’t move. [02:00:47.880] And so the next day [02:00:51.920] I was in the remote viewing unit by that [02:00:54.120] time. [02:00:54.960] The next day I got some encrypted [02:00:57.400] coordinates, just some numbers, and I [02:00:59.360] gave it to all the people as a practice [02:01:01.320] target. [02:01:03.600] And they came back with what I had [02:01:06.000] remembered. Really? [02:01:08.600] And so [02:01:10.560] I thought [02:01:12.760] telepathic overlay, they’re just reading [02:01:15.040] my mind. [02:01:16.240] It never happened. [02:01:18.360] So um [02:01:19.960] evidently it was Ed Dames [02:01:22.360] that reported me. [02:01:24.640] And the following week I was up at the [02:01:27.000] Defense Intelligence Agency [02:01:29.440] going to see the director. [02:01:31.480] And the two men in black stepped out of [02:01:33.600] an off out of [02:01:35.240] little conference room, pointed in, [02:01:38.080] and I knew the routine of the men in [02:01:40.840] black. And so I went in [02:01:43.600] and sat down. [02:01:46.720] The men in black are not aliens, okay? [02:01:50.520] They’re a hired professional [02:01:53.200] interrogator. [02:01:55.440] And the other person [02:01:57.800] who sits off to the side and never says [02:01:59.920] anything [02:02:01.800] is the person from a unit that has [02:02:04.280] questions [02:02:06.240] that they give to the interrogator, and [02:02:08.280] he sits over there and listens for [02:02:09.840] answers. That’s why he sits over there [02:02:11.720] and never says anything. [02:02:13.720] And so [02:02:15.320] the interrogator has a list of [02:02:18.120] questions. He jumbles them back and [02:02:20.080] forth, and you know, mixes them up and [02:02:23.160] says them in different ways to see if [02:02:24.720] you’re going to trip yourself up. [02:02:26.960] And so he was he kept asking about the [02:02:30.760] control panel. [02:02:33.360] And um [02:02:35.680] and [02:02:37.240] I thought when they stepped out in the [02:02:39.800] hallway, I thought [02:02:41.840] they want to see somebody with my [02:02:43.400] clearance is going crazy. [02:02:46.120] So, I thought that’s what it was in [02:02:47.560] there for, but he kept asking about the [02:02:49.280] control panel. [02:02:51.120] And so, about the fourth or fifth time [02:02:53.920] he asked, I said, “No, this is how you [02:02:57.040] work it.” [02:02:58.400] And explained it. [02:03:01.320] And the guy over to the side slapped his [02:03:04.040] leg and said, “So, that’s it.” [02:03:09.640] I looked over and I realized he’s got [02:03:12.640] one and didn’t know how to fly it. [02:03:15.840] I looked back at the interrogator [02:03:18.960] and grinned. [02:03:20.840] The interrogator is trained to never [02:03:22.640] make an expression of any kind. [02:03:25.440] But, his ears started turning red. I [02:03:27.640] could tell he was angry. [02:03:29.800] And within 20 seconds, I was in the room [02:03:32.280] by myself. They were gone. [02:03:34.560] And uh [02:03:36.000] so, I thought [02:03:39.360] maybe I was abducted. I don’t know. [02:03:43.240] Then, about a year later [02:03:45.440] I was at this facility on this other [02:03:48.560] mission. [02:03:50.560] Met this guy that I had known way back [02:03:54.200] years before in the military. [02:03:56.760] Found out what he did. He showed me [02:03:58.680] through this hangar. [02:04:00.360] And um [02:04:01.880] that’s where I came across this panel [02:04:03.880] and I said, “That’s out of a UFO.” [02:04:07.080] I got kicked out of there. [02:04:09.400] But, the minute I saw the minute I saw [02:04:11.760] that, I thought [02:04:15.320] “Shit, I was abducted.” [02:04:18.571] >> [sighs and gasps] [02:04:19.480] >> What did the control panel look like? [02:04:21.720] >> Um it has a [02:04:24.720] an impression of a hand on it. This one [02:04:28.000] The one in the hangar did. [02:04:29.800] The one on the ship didn’t. Um had the [02:04:33.040] impression of a hand. There are holes [02:04:34.640] over it. [02:04:35.880] Okay? [02:04:37.360] And uh [02:04:38.920] where you put your finger over the hole [02:04:41.560] is what [02:04:44.120] works the [02:04:45.480] uh [02:04:46.360] works the controls the ship. [02:04:48.440] >> Any sort of surface materials, metallic? [02:04:52.880] >> Metal, yeah. [02:04:54.000] >> Metal? [02:04:54.520] >> But um [02:04:56.200] it’s the holes. The holes. [02:04:58.880] >> Where you put your Where you stop one of [02:05:00.760] the holes up, that’s how they control [02:05:02.600] the ship. [02:05:03.520] >> Was it gray or any particular color? [02:05:08.040] >> It was just metal that [02:05:09.920] as far as I remember, yeah. [02:05:12.480] >> And so when you said, “I think that’s a [02:05:15.440] control panel from a UFO.” you clearly [02:05:17.240] hit a nerve. [02:05:18.560] >> I said, “That’s out of a UFO.” [02:05:21.680] I was definite statement, “That’s out of [02:05:23.960] a UFO.” and it just echoed in that [02:05:25.920] hangar. And uh [02:05:27.680] >> And they got angry immediately. [02:05:29.520] >> Oh, yeah. Oh, they kicked me out, man. [02:05:33.080] Uh with warnings, they kicked me out. [02:05:35.960] Yeah. [02:05:37.160] >> What What were the warnings? [02:05:38.440] >> Well, you don’t tell this about anybody. [02:05:40.240] We You know, [02:05:42.200] uh [02:05:42.760] you don’t ever mention this about to [02:05:45.000] anybody. [02:05:46.200] >> Why do you feel okay talking about it [02:05:47.960] now? [02:05:49.160] >> Uh because I can talk about it. I can’t [02:05:51.880] tell you where it is. [02:05:53.240] >> No context is okay? [02:05:55.080] >> Yeah. Uh-huh. [02:05:56.040] >> Yeah. [02:05:57.160] And uh when were you abducted? What [02:05:59.520] year? [02:06:01.406] >> [sighs and gasps] [02:06:02.200] >> Uh it was 25 years before that. So, it’d [02:06:05.240] be uh [02:06:08.480] 60 [02:06:11.640] 63, 65, somewhere around there. [02:06:14.440] >> Sure. And was it [02:06:16.000] from your place and were you in New [02:06:17.520] Mexico at the time or [02:06:18.800] >> No, I was in Texas. You’re in Texas. Um [02:06:21.600] Um in East Texas. East Texas church, [02:06:24.800] yeah. [02:06:25.440] >> Mhm. [02:06:26.000] >> And did that have any transform it You [02:06:29.080] mentioned some abductees, [02:06:31.920] you know, have greater psychic powers. [02:06:33.520] Did that, you know, change you in any [02:06:35.440] sort of way? [02:06:37.120] >> I don’t think so. [02:06:38.960] Um [02:06:40.080] like I say, growing up [02:06:43.320] when I was [02:06:45.000] 12 and 15, I was [02:06:48.040] all this PK stuff. [02:06:50.160] And uh [02:06:51.680] I had had some psychic experiences when [02:06:55.040] I was young and all through life. [02:06:57.737] >> [sighs] [02:06:57.880] >> But nothing [02:06:59.600] astounding of any way. [02:07:02.240] And then when Bert put me into the [02:07:05.680] remote viewing unit, that’s where I [02:07:08.120] learned [02:07:09.528] >> [sighs and gasps] [02:07:10.360] >> the controlled remote viewing [02:07:12.520] to use your psychic ability to collect [02:07:15.280] intelligence. [02:07:16.160] >> Mhm. [02:07:17.720] So fascinating. Mhm. [02:07:21.480] And how long do you do you feel like you [02:07:23.520] were on this UFO for when you were [02:07:25.000] abducted? [02:07:26.240] >> Well, it was [02:07:27.840] it felt like hours and oh, it felt like [02:07:32.200] a long time. [02:07:33.440] >> Did you have missing time at all like in [02:07:35.880] in the real world? [02:07:37.640] >> Well, [02:07:39.160] I was there [02:07:40.880] on the pallet in the living room. [02:07:43.760] And [02:07:45.320] the next morning I was standing at the [02:07:47.120] back window looking out at the backyard. [02:07:50.280] So, [02:07:51.680] had to be just overnight. [02:07:53.800] You know. [02:07:55.920] >> Did anyone in your family ask what had [02:07:58.680] happened to you? [02:08:00.200] >> No, because when I left and went to the [02:08:03.240] new parsonage [02:08:05.440] I felt like I’d forgotten something at [02:08:07.400] the other parsonage, but I didn’t [02:08:10.240] remember any of it for 25 years. [02:08:13.600] >> Until So, was it it was the control [02:08:16.520] panel that you saw in the hangar that [02:08:19.480] freaked you out and made you remember [02:08:21.160] the abduction? [02:08:21.880] >> No, it was when my wife said, “Did you [02:08:24.600] check the backyard?” Okay. And she was [02:08:27.480] making fun of me, but when she said [02:08:29.440] that, [02:08:31.240] it all came back. [02:08:33.360] >> Really? [02:08:34.040] >> And so, the next [02:08:36.000] Monday, [02:08:36.720] >> Uh-huh. [02:08:37.400] >> I went to work there at the remote [02:08:38.800] viewing unit, gave them the task, and [02:08:41.320] they confirmed it. I didn’t believe it. [02:08:43.848] >> [sighs and gasps] [02:08:44.680] >> The men in black confirmed it. I didn’t [02:08:46.560] believe it. [02:08:48.320] A year later, [02:08:50.280] I saw that pile of stuff [02:08:52.840] in that hangar, [02:08:54.280] saw the control panel, and that’s when I [02:08:56.640] said, [02:08:58.760] “Shit, I was abducted.” [02:09:00.879] >> [laughter] [02:09:02.400] >> Got it. So, so what you had the [02:09:04.160] flashback when your [02:09:05.760] wife said, “Go check the backyard.” [02:09:08.480] >> Yeah, but that was [02:09:10.600] That was 20 [02:09:11.560] >> you the flashback? [02:09:14.000] >> Evidently, because [02:09:16.440] when that happened, [02:09:18.280] I was trying to get up and go to the [02:09:20.000] backyard and see what [02:09:21.720] what happened, what landed. [02:09:24.960] And so, I didn’t remember the whole I [02:09:27.640] didn’t remember any of it. [02:09:29.920] When I drove away from the Parson’s that [02:09:31.960] day to go to the new to the new house, [02:09:35.440] uh [02:09:37.520] all I could [02:09:39.080] think of was how to get to the new [02:09:41.000] house, and also the [02:09:43.800] feeling that, “Hey, I forgot something.” [02:09:47.000] >> Did you have an implant at any point in [02:09:48.920] your body afterwards? [02:09:50.480] >> No. No. [02:09:52.360] He He grabbed me by the arm, and he [02:09:54.640] said, “You don’t want to go up there.” [02:09:56.920] So. [02:09:57.600] >> So, how do you fly a UFO? Cuz it did [02:10:00.720] presumably this gray sort of taught you. [02:10:03.400] >> He showed me the fingering and all that, [02:10:06.040] and that’s what I explained to the [02:10:07.880] interrogator, [02:10:09.560] and that’s when the guy said, slapped [02:10:11.800] his leg, and said, “So, that’s it.” [02:10:14.200] >> Is there some sort of mental connection? [02:10:16.480] >> No. Mhm. [02:10:17.320] >> Just putting the fingers [02:10:18.880] >> Just how you work the control panel. [02:10:20.680] >> Because if I was the guy in the hangar, [02:10:23.080] you said they had other crashed, you [02:10:24.960] know, prosaic [02:10:26.360] >> airplanes. [02:10:27.000] >> crashed airplanes. Yeah. So, if I had [02:10:28.760] other crashed airplanes and I was an [02:10:30.080] aerospace person and I saw a control [02:10:32.760] panel and it had a like, you know, five [02:10:36.040] different little holes for for your [02:10:38.360] fingers. [02:10:38.960] >> had a bunch of holes, yeah. [02:10:40.120] >> So, I my my [02:10:42.440] maybe like initial assumption would be [02:10:44.400] that’s how you’d [02:10:45.680] you know, fly it. But, you he didn’t [02:10:47.080] figure that out on his own. [02:10:48.440] >> I imagine a regular aeronautics person [02:10:51.520] would [02:10:52.520] think what a piece of junk. [02:10:53.800] >> Yeah, or that. Or they just would have [02:10:55.160] no idea. So, he didn’t even know it was [02:10:56.760] a control panel. Yeah. [02:10:58.480] >> Yeah. [02:10:59.040] >> Interesting. [02:10:59.520] >> But, evidently somebody knew it was a [02:11:01.680] control panel and knew it. [02:11:02.720] >> Because they got mad and kicked you out. [02:11:04.640] >> Yeah, huh. [02:11:05.985] >> [laughter] [02:11:06.880] >> But, it was just sitting there like kind [02:11:08.240] of unattended to? [02:11:09.960] >> It was in a pile over to one side. [02:11:12.040] >> Interesting. [02:11:13.840] So bizarre. Do you Was this [02:11:18.000] Do you think they had any intention of [02:11:19.600] reverse engineering it? [02:11:21.280] >> I have no idea. We just were walking [02:11:23.720] past [02:11:24.920] pile of wreckage, pile of wreckage, pile [02:11:26.800] of wreckage and there was this one pile [02:11:28.520] of wreckage and there was that [02:11:30.880] control panels. [02:11:31.920] >> Did you [02:11:32.360] >> It was sitting up there. [02:11:33.320] >> Did you experience any sort of psychic [02:11:35.040] phenomena like around the metal that [02:11:37.920] sometimes occurs? Okay. [02:11:40.800] >> No. [02:11:41.560] >> It was just there. [02:11:42.440] >> I just saw it and [02:11:44.640] hey, that’s out of a UFO. [02:11:46.400] >> Wow. [02:11:48.560] It’s pretty wild. [02:11:49.680] >> Yeah. [02:11:50.560] >> Has anyone else showed you a photo or a [02:11:53.320] drawing of their abduction experience [02:11:56.320] that looks at all like this control [02:11:58.040] panel that you saw? [02:11:59.240] >> No. Not a one. [02:12:01.440] But, then they never show you the inside [02:12:03.000] of the ship, I don’t think. [02:12:05.760] Uh I’ve never seen anything like that. [02:12:07.680] They mean they tell stories about their [02:12:09.600] abduction and all that, but uh [02:12:13.480] >> Did you ever come across a guy named [02:12:15.840] General uh William Neil McCasland. [02:12:18.960] >> No. [02:12:19.680] >> Who’s at Wright-Patterson? [02:12:21.040] >> No, I didn’t know. [02:12:22.800] >> Uh did you ever come across Hans Adams [02:12:25.240] by any chance? The Liechtenstein royal [02:12:28.120] prince? No? [02:12:28.920] >> No, huh. [02:12:29.320] >> Okay. [02:12:30.520] >> In fact, the [02:12:32.480] you know, [02:12:35.066] >> [sighs] [02:12:35.880] >> the UFOs that [02:12:37.760] uh [02:12:39.600] I’ve seen a lot of UFOs. I mean, I live [02:12:42.080] in Alamogordo. We see UFOs all the time. [02:12:44.960] And I mean, provable UFOs. [02:12:47.920] And uh [02:12:49.600] um [02:12:51.040] it’s gotten to where [02:12:55.120] Yeah, it’s a UFO. So? [02:12:58.160] Yeah. So what? [02:12:59.956] >> [laughter] [02:13:00.680] >> And they’re here. I know it. [02:13:03.880] So? [02:13:05.197] >> [sighs and gasps] [02:13:05.800] >> So what? There’s nothing I can do about [02:13:07.720] it. [02:13:08.200] >> Do you think there’s also a lineage of [02:13:10.520] exotic propulsion that’s man-made? [02:13:14.366] >> [sighs] [02:13:14.760] >> What my friend who did the [02:13:18.560] technology transfer with one of the [02:13:21.000] groups of aliens [02:13:22.640] um [02:13:23.840] told me at one time [02:13:26.280] he said [02:13:27.640] um [02:13:29.560] way back when we found that if you [02:13:31.480] explode something, it moves things. [02:13:34.240] It blows things away. [02:13:36.000] So, you can cause motion by exploding [02:13:38.160] things. [02:13:39.160] And that has led to the internal [02:13:40.760] combustion engine and the jet plane and [02:13:42.960] all that. You explode [02:13:44.760] and it makes things move. [02:13:47.680] Uh he said that [02:13:50.080] the group he dealt with [02:13:52.280] way back when they found that you can [02:13:54.160] move things with magnets. [02:13:56.240] >> Mhm. [02:13:56.640] >> And that just as we have taken [02:14:00.280] the [02:14:02.000] fire and turned it into rockets that can [02:14:05.800] go to other planets, you know, that can [02:14:07.760] go to the moon. [02:14:09.720] They have taken magnetism and over the [02:14:11.920] centuries they have developed it to [02:14:13.920] where [02:14:15.160] and he said [02:14:16.800] one of the things that he had seen [02:14:19.600] was that we think they’re so more [02:14:21.920] advanced than we are. [02:14:24.840] They think [02:14:26.600] we’re so far advanced than they are. [02:14:30.000] When actually we’ve just advanced in two [02:14:32.160] different directions. [02:14:34.920] But he said that’s why they’re eager to [02:14:36.560] trade with us. [02:14:39.240] >> Interesting. Because we’ve like [02:14:41.840] almost split off from them as far as our [02:14:43.920] trajectories. [02:14:44.920] >> Yeah. Uh-huh. [02:14:45.720] >> Mhm. Is there anything having to do with [02:14:47.640] timelines? Like are they us on a [02:14:50.360] different timeline sort of thing? [02:14:52.880] >> Not from anything I’ve heard [snorts] [02:14:56.120] him say. [02:14:57.880] >> Did you ever encounter any religious [02:14:59.800] figures in your experience with remote [02:15:01.880] viewing? [02:15:02.960] >> Oh, yeah. [02:15:04.240] >> Like who? [02:15:04.920] >> Yeah, but not [02:15:08.120] not tied with ETs or anything. [02:15:10.320] >> Were you ever tasked with looking into [02:15:12.320] the Buddha or Jesus or Muhammad? [02:15:14.800] >> yeah. [02:15:15.680] >> Which one of those? [02:15:17.360] >> Um [02:15:19.080] two that [02:15:20.560] were [02:15:22.080] most meaningful to me. [02:15:24.160] Uh one time [02:15:26.240] um [02:15:27.520] well, I think we already mentioned that [02:15:29.600] one of my fortes was [02:15:32.200] mental access. [02:15:34.240] And um [02:15:36.320] so I was tasked a lot of times with [02:15:39.040] doing personality profiles [02:15:41.680] or [02:15:43.280] even deeper than that [02:15:45.200] getting the plans and intentions of [02:15:46.960] foreign leaders. [02:15:48.840] And personality profile is just where [02:15:51.440] you give a personality profile of. So I [02:15:54.680] went over one day and um [02:15:57.000] they said we have a personality profile [02:15:59.080] for you. [02:16:00.520] And they gave me the coordinates [02:16:02.960] and um [02:16:05.240] just almost immediately [02:16:07.960] I said uh uh [02:16:10.480] this isn’t one of the bad guys. [02:16:13.800] And my monitor said, “What [02:16:17.200] your task with it, go and do the [02:16:18.480] session.” [02:16:19.734] >> [sighs and gasps] [02:16:20.120] >> By the end of that session um [02:16:24.640] I was just feeling like I was glowing [02:16:28.120] and uh [02:16:29.480] um [02:16:30.880] my entire summary on that session was [02:16:33.840] whatever evil you think this guy did, he [02:16:36.000] didn’t do it. [02:16:37.240] He’s a good guy. [02:16:38.920] And um in that session [02:16:42.120] I found myself [02:16:44.160] again with the perfect side integration. [02:16:47.599] I was standing there [02:16:49.639] and this [02:16:51.240] little [02:16:52.920] Jewish-looking guy [02:16:54.800] was standing in front of me [02:16:56.840] in a modern business suit. [02:16:59.760] And [02:17:01.080] we didn’t talk so much as [02:17:05.040] just [02:17:07.000] you know, related to each other and all [02:17:08.920] that. [02:17:09.960] And um [02:17:11.840] I felt just dirty in front of this guy. [02:17:16.719] >> [gasps] [02:17:16.960] >> And basically what he let me know was [02:17:21.599] whatever evil you’ve done, I’ve seen a [02:17:24.679] whole lot worse. [02:17:26.679] Whatever you good you’ve done [02:17:29.320] I’ve seen a whole lot better. [02:17:32.040] I don’t care, I like you anyway. [02:17:35.440] And when I came out of the session [02:17:39.000] that’s what I knew, but what I wrote was [02:17:42.080] whatever evil you think this guy did, he [02:17:44.000] didn’t do it. You know, he’s a good guy. [02:17:46.960] And that’s when the monitor opened the [02:17:50.360] um [02:17:51.679] envelope and our director had written [02:17:55.080] the word Jesus on it. [02:17:57.719] So [02:17:59.295] >> [sighs] [02:18:00.120] >> I cannot say I physically met Jesus, [02:18:03.360] but I have had the experience [02:18:06.599] of it and it changed my life. It really [02:18:09.920] did. [02:18:10.639] >> What did you feel when you were in his [02:18:12.240] presence? [02:18:13.000] >> Oh, I felt dirty. [02:18:15.670] >> [laughter] [02:18:15.679] >> I felt so dirty. I felt so guilty of [02:18:18.639] myself and everything else. I felt, you [02:18:20.920] know. [02:18:21.679] >> But you felt loved? [02:18:22.880] >> Huh? [02:18:23.519] >> Did you also feel love? [02:18:24.840] >> Oh, yeah, absolutely. [02:18:26.679] When he said, “I don’t care.” [02:18:28.760] He said, “I love you anyway.” You know. [02:18:30.760] >> Mhm. [02:18:31.400] >> And uh [02:18:32.480] >> Why was he, you don’t think of Jesus in [02:18:34.840] the, you know, business seat? Why do you [02:18:36.719] think he was? [02:18:37.840] >> I think that was a way of saying [02:18:40.440] he’s not [02:18:43.160] uh [02:18:44.639] thing out of the past and, you know, [02:18:47.200] wearing robes and all that. He’s here [02:18:49.040] today. [02:18:49.639] >> Mhm. [02:18:50.360] >> I That’s the only [02:18:53.240] interpretation I can get of that. [02:18:55.080] >> Did he look like Jesus is traditionally [02:18:57.480] depicted, long hair? [02:18:58.760] >> near. No, no. Huh. [02:19:01.320] I mean, this looked like a short little [02:19:02.760] Jewish guy. [02:19:03.559] >> Mhm. [02:19:04.480] Where was he? And what was he just kind [02:19:06.440] of [02:19:07.120] >> He was just standing there in front of [02:19:08.559] me, you know. [02:19:09.599] >> In in like hyperspace or in a room or [02:19:12.000] >> In a room, yeah. And it was all dark in [02:19:13.920] the room, but we were there, you know. [02:19:15.840] >> Wow. [02:19:16.440] >> And uh [02:19:17.840] >> Did you ever remote view any other [02:19:20.559] religious figures or mystics? [02:19:22.719] >> One other time. Uh they had done this [02:19:25.480] with um [02:19:27.639] uh Bill Ryan. [02:19:29.639] And uh they did it with me. [02:19:32.760] Uh they probably did it with all the [02:19:34.120] others. [02:19:35.160] Um [02:19:37.639] uh [02:19:39.280] I was to do a [02:19:41.440] you know, just a target. They didn’t [02:19:42.800] even say personality profile or anything [02:19:44.880] like that. [02:19:45.960] And uh [02:19:47.559] I found myself [02:19:49.280] surrounded by total darkness, but I was [02:19:51.400] standing in some light. I couldn’t [02:19:53.400] figure out where the light was coming [02:19:54.680] from. [02:19:56.080] And uh I heard this voice [02:19:59.960] that said, you know, um [02:20:03.120] um [02:20:05.640] you know, welcome to me and all that. [02:20:09.200] And, [02:20:10.760] I said, well, [02:20:13.080] what am I doing here? [02:20:15.880] It said, you’re here to learn. [02:20:18.400] And, I said, okay. [02:20:20.680] What am I supposed to learn? [02:20:22.742] >> [sighs] [02:20:23.280] >> And, there was no answer. [02:20:26.520] And, I said, [02:20:27.960] well, look, [02:20:30.000] give me something. [02:20:33.080] And, the voice said, [02:20:35.000] I’ve given you everything you need. [02:20:38.520] What I give you now, I give through you, [02:20:41.840] not to you. [02:20:43.480] >> Mhm. [02:20:44.600] >> And, when I came out of the session and [02:20:47.000] they opened the envelope, it said, God. [02:20:50.760] >> Really? [02:20:51.520] >> Yeah. [02:20:52.400] >> Did you see God? [02:20:54.840] >> I didn’t. But, I heard the voice [02:20:56.800] clearly, from now on, [02:20:59.440] everything I give you, I give through [02:21:01.480] you, [02:21:02.880] not to you. [02:21:03.720] >> What did you feel in God’s presence? [02:21:06.520] >> Oh, [02:21:08.200] total confusion. [02:21:11.040] I was I was thinking, hey, I’ve got a [02:21:13.000] target. I’ve got I’ve got to write a [02:21:15.080] report on this, you know. [02:21:17.880] But, uh [02:21:18.720] >> Did you feel awestruck? [02:21:21.160] >> No, I um [02:21:24.120] I was in an empty room hearing the [02:21:25.520] voice. [02:21:26.560] >> Did you feel love? [02:21:29.600] >> Not really. [02:21:31.040] Um [02:21:32.240] the the voice was [02:21:34.760] I mean, just [02:21:38.760] more friendly than you’d ever know, you [02:21:41.160] know. [02:21:42.320] And, kind and all that. [02:21:44.320] >> Do you think you actually spoke to God? [02:21:47.960] >> Um [02:21:51.120] I think God spoke to me. Yeah. [02:21:54.800] And I think what I was there to learn [02:21:56.920] was [02:21:59.240] from now on I give through you, [02:22:01.120] >> Mhm. [02:22:01.560] >> not to you. [02:22:03.520] >> Do you think [02:22:05.000] on the remote viewing program anybody [02:22:08.200] ever engaged in sort of deception or [02:22:10.720] trickery, or do you think it was always [02:22:12.360] pretty straightforward? They gave you a [02:22:14.600] target. [02:22:15.640] >> Well, we had [02:22:17.760] constructive trickery. [02:22:20.080] >> Mhm. [02:22:20.760] >> Um [02:22:21.800] I know one time um [02:22:24.680] we had one of the viewers go over, and [02:22:27.360] one of the things you have to learn in [02:22:29.440] remote viewing [02:22:30.960] is how to overcome pollution. [02:22:34.600] And so we were never supposed to pollute [02:22:36.640] each other. [02:22:39.120] But you don’t learn how to overcome [02:22:40.880] pollution by not facing it. [02:22:43.920] And so uh one time one of the viewers [02:22:46.600] was going over, [02:22:48.040] and he’d been having trouble with [02:22:50.120] fighting pollution. [02:22:52.120] And so [02:22:53.600] we had the coffee pot, [02:22:55.520] and he always got coffee to take over [02:22:57.640] with him to the other building when he [02:22:59.200] did a session. [02:23:00.920] And it was a practice session. [02:23:03.680] And so [02:23:05.440] I went up and got my coffee at the same [02:23:07.160] time. [02:23:08.480] And right as he finished fixing his [02:23:10.880] coffee and turned to go away, I said, [02:23:13.240] “Oh, by the way, [02:23:15.280] your target today is probably not the [02:23:18.000] Eiffel Tower.” [02:23:20.800] And I turned and walked away back to my [02:23:22.640] desk and left him standing there having [02:23:26.200] to fight the Eiffel Tower. [02:23:30.800] And we would do things like that to each [02:23:32.400] other, you know. [02:23:33.920] >> Why do you think they asked you to [02:23:35.440] remote view God and Jesus? [02:23:37.960] >> Uh it was I think something they did for [02:23:41.200] all of us. [02:23:42.520] Uh [02:23:43.160] >> Why? [02:23:43.920] >> Uh they uh Bill Ray, I know they had him [02:23:47.440] uh remote view Buddha and that was a [02:23:51.320] uh [02:23:52.360] change life-changing experience for him. [02:23:55.280] And uh [02:23:56.680] I think they did that to all of us just [02:23:59.360] um [02:24:00.600] just to give us the experience. Um [02:24:04.040] many of the targets we got [02:24:07.280] were to gain experience in how to view [02:24:09.480] things. [02:24:10.600] >> Did you view anything historical that [02:24:13.640] they want like did they ever say, “Look [02:24:15.480] at the French Revolution or look at the [02:24:18.200] you know um [02:24:18.960] >> We did those because there was feedback. [02:24:22.360] They wouldn’t give us targets for which [02:24:24.280] there was no feedback because you can’t [02:24:26.120] judge. [02:24:26.680] >> What’s an example of a famous historical [02:24:28.520] event that you remote viewed? [02:24:30.160] >> Oh, [02:24:31.120] things like um [02:24:33.160] Joan of Arc. Um [02:24:35.240] >> What did What did Joan of Arc [02:24:36.520] >> Napoleon. [02:24:37.120] >> What What did What did those two look [02:24:39.080] like? [02:24:39.760] >> Um [02:24:41.320] Joan of Arc [02:24:42.720] uh [02:24:44.160] different parts of her life. Um [02:24:46.520] we also um [02:24:48.720] um [02:24:50.560] just events in history, uh historical [02:24:53.360] places. [02:24:54.600] >> What was Napoleon like? [02:24:56.520] >> Um Napoleon was um [02:24:59.800] just [02:25:01.200] egotistical like you wouldn’t believe. [02:25:04.396] >> [laughter] [02:25:05.160] >> I mean [02:25:06.600] he was [02:25:08.560] God’s favorite in all this, you know, [02:25:10.640] and and [02:25:12.720] he was [02:25:15.280] he was his own hero. [02:25:17.320] >> Is there anything you can say about [02:25:19.600] Napoleon that isn’t conventionally known [02:25:22.040] but that you learned through your remote [02:25:24.240] viewing of him? [02:25:24.840] >> I’m not sure what’s conventionally [02:25:26.240] known. Uh [02:25:27.560] >> Well, I think people think of him as [02:25:28.840] like this [02:25:30.320] yeah, chip on his shoulder cuz his dad [02:25:32.320] was [02:25:32.720] >> Oh, did he? [02:25:33.440] >> Yeah, yeah, cuz his dad was a Corsican [02:25:35.520] governor. So that was off the coast of [02:25:37.960] France and you know, he didn’t [02:25:40.520] >> Well, the one thing that I really know [02:25:42.160] about him is the time that uh he had the [02:25:45.120] war of the rabbits. Have you heard of [02:25:47.280] that one? [02:25:47.680] >> No. [02:25:48.640] >> Um [02:25:50.200] it was a celebration of some big event [02:25:53.160] that he did. [02:25:54.480] And um [02:25:56.000] so he was going to have all of his [02:25:58.960] generals come out to do a rabbit hunt, a [02:26:02.000] wild rabbit hunt. [02:26:03.960] And they couldn’t find enough rabbits, [02:26:06.520] so they got all these tame rabbits [02:26:09.240] from rabbit raisers and all that. And [02:26:12.920] right before the thing event, they let [02:26:15.640] them loose in the woods. [02:26:17.920] Well, [02:26:19.520] the rabbits saw the humans and thought, [02:26:22.200] “Oh, feeding time.” [02:26:24.440] And so all the rabbits ran toward the [02:26:27.600] generals [02:26:28.960] and just swarmed the generals, and the [02:26:31.200] generals started running, and Napoleon [02:26:34.520] himself had to jump into his car There [02:26:36.880] were hundreds of them. Had to jump into [02:26:39.160] his cart uh you know, into his carriage. [02:26:42.720] And as the carriage went away, he was [02:26:44.440] throwing rabbits out the window. He lost [02:26:47.080] the war to the rabbits. [02:26:48.640] >> Wow. Is [laughter] this documented? [02:26:51.040] >> Yeah, it’s documented. [02:26:52.080] >> And you saw it. [02:26:53.320] >> Oh, yeah. Uh-huh. And uh I give it now [02:26:56.600] as a um as a target to my students here. [02:26:59.640] >> What’s the most disturbing thing you’ve [02:27:01.560] ever seen historically? [02:27:04.480] >> Ooh. [02:27:05.880] Historically? [02:27:06.720] >> Or not historically. Could have been [02:27:08.360] contemporary or historical. [02:27:10.240] >> Um [02:27:12.680] there are a lot of uh [02:27:16.960] inhumanities that humans do. [02:27:19.720] And um [02:27:21.200] I know [02:27:22.480] a lot of police work. [02:27:25.240] Um [02:27:29.320] finding missing children. [02:27:31.320] I have a lot of students who come and [02:27:33.320] they say, “Well, I want to help find [02:27:34.840] missing children.” [02:27:36.356] >> [gasps] [02:27:36.520] >> And I warn them ahead of time, [02:27:38.977] >> [sighs] [02:27:39.280] >> “In order to do that, you’re going to [02:27:41.040] have to experience where the children [02:27:43.480] are, [02:27:45.160] what they’re going through, and all [02:27:46.520] that. [02:27:48.280] And you’re going to actually experience [02:27:52.080] children being molested, [02:27:55.120] killed, [02:27:56.640] chopped into pieces, and buried across [02:27:59.480] acres of land. Do you really want to do [02:28:02.720] that, you know?” [02:28:04.560] And I always tell beginning students, [02:28:07.920] “Do not get involved in this until [02:28:10.160] you’re highly, highly trained, cuz it [02:28:13.080] can mess you up emotionally like you [02:28:15.920] wouldn’t believe.” [02:28:16.640] >> I mean, highly trained and highly, [02:28:18.800] highly desensitized. I don’t know how [02:28:21.480] anybody wouldn’t be, you know, broken [02:28:23.880] into many pieces emotionally. [02:28:26.400] >> Oh, yeah. Oh, it can it can be [02:28:29.600] >> Jesus. [02:28:30.240] >> Really bad, yeah. [02:28:31.760] >> Um [02:28:33.280] All right. Well, [02:28:34.720] we got to take it to a more positive [02:28:36.160] place after that. What about all these [02:28:37.880] missing scientists? Have you looked into [02:28:40.280] any of them? So, I mentioned you [02:28:42.480] >> tasked with it, so I haven’t done it, [02:28:44.400] yeah. [02:28:45.120] >> Could I task you with it? [02:28:47.560] >> Oh, you can. You won’t have any feedback [02:28:50.280] for who knows how long. [02:28:52.360] >> Okay. All right. Well, let’s talk after [02:28:54.480] this. [02:28:54.800] >> All right. [02:28:55.612] >> [laughter] [02:28:56.680] >> Um [02:28:57.920] do you have any Did has anybody tasked [02:29:00.120] you with anything on this hantavirus? [02:29:01.840] This like people are worried about this [02:29:03.240] COVID 2.0 virus that’s [02:29:06.480] um seems like it’s caused some issues on [02:29:08.960] this cruise ship, and you know, people [02:29:11.360] think it might cause another pandemic. [02:29:13.080] >> Not directly on that. Uh back in 1998, I [02:29:16.720] was tasked with um [02:29:19.240] viewing the future of the US. [02:29:22.360] It wound up I viewed the future of the [02:29:24.200] world. [02:29:25.440] Uh up through the year 2050. [02:29:28.480] And um [02:29:30.080] I [02:29:31.520] turned in this whole long list of [02:29:33.880] changes that were going to happen [02:29:36.320] and I have watched them come true one [02:29:40.120] after another after another. [02:29:42.400] And um [02:29:44.320] um [02:29:46.600] would it [02:29:48.720] just a glossing over everything [02:29:51.943] >> [sighs] [02:29:53.600] >> we’re going down. [02:29:55.219] >> [laughter] [02:29:55.920] >> I mean it’s going to be some hard hard [02:29:58.640] hard times. That’s going to result in um [02:30:03.360] um [02:30:05.280] quite a bit of [02:30:06.840] warfare, quite a bit of um [02:30:10.520] uh [02:30:12.080] one of the things it pointed out [02:30:14.840] was um killing off of 75% of the world [02:30:18.920] population. [02:30:19.680] >> What? [02:30:20.280] >> 75% [02:30:22.560] >> with what? [02:30:24.000] >> um man-made disasters like earthquakes [02:30:27.560] and so on. Also [02:30:29.960] um [02:30:30.880] you know [02:30:32.720] it gave a list of other things, but uh [02:30:35.360] what I found was that by the year about [02:30:37.360] 2040 [02:30:39.920] there will be almost no centralized [02:30:42.360] government. Uh we will [02:30:46.120] um [02:30:46.960] be an agrarian society. [02:30:50.520] Uh any goods that we can’t make for [02:30:53.080] ourselves or grow for ourselves will be [02:30:56.960] delivered and there will be almost no [02:30:59.280] social interaction [02:31:01.320] with the few people that are left except [02:31:04.160] through technology. [02:31:06.040] And [02:31:07.200] uh [02:31:08.040] um one of the things was you can make [02:31:11.160] your own tools. [02:31:13.000] And I thought, how in the world can you [02:31:14.720] make your own tools? In 1998 they didn’t [02:31:17.560] have 3D printers. [02:31:20.880] And yet I saw people just [02:31:23.160] go into this machine and making their [02:31:25.360] own tools. [02:31:26.920] >> Well, [02:31:27.960] >> This sounds terrible. [02:31:30.194] >> [laughter] [02:31:30.440] >> Okay. Uh but earlier you mentioned that [02:31:33.320] we are bound to be a spacefaring species [02:31:36.240] and the only way to do that is to have [02:31:37.720] one world government. [02:31:39.040] >> Mhm. [02:31:39.480] >> But in this sort of prophecy it feels [02:31:41.760] like there’s no central government. So, [02:31:44.120] >> Yeah. [02:31:44.640] >> how do you those two [02:31:46.320] >> I think it’s going to wind up after [02:31:47.880] that. So, I don’t think we’re going to [02:31:49.480] get into space until around 2080 or even [02:31:52.840] afterwards. [02:31:53.680] >> Okay. [02:31:55.320] And when you say into space cuz we’re [02:31:57.080] technically in space now, you mean [02:31:58.800] >> Well, we’re technically in space, but [02:32:00.280] what I mean into space as a community [02:32:03.600] >> Uh-huh. [02:32:04.000] >> of the space, you know, of space. [02:32:06.160] >> Yeah. [02:32:07.080] >> I mean right now we can go to the moon. [02:32:09.640] Maybe we can go to Mars. So, that’s it. [02:32:11.680] >> If humans can bilocate with their [02:32:13.560] consciousness, do you think there’s a [02:32:15.280] secret space program which has a [02:32:17.640] ridiculous connotation, but do you think [02:32:20.000] there is a secret space program [02:32:21.680] involving human consciousness where [02:32:23.480] humans bilocate systematically to other [02:32:25.680] planets? [02:32:27.180] >> [sighs] [02:32:28.280] >> Yes. [02:32:29.920] >> You’re smiling. [02:32:31.320] >> I think so. Yes. [02:32:33.280] >> Do you think so or do you know so? [02:32:35.760] >> I’m not involved. [02:32:37.660] >> [laughter] [02:32:38.880] >> Sounds like you might know so, but [02:32:40.800] >> But but have we done that? [02:32:43.480] Yeah, I’ve done that. Yeah. [02:32:45.160] >> You’ve done that. [02:32:46.120] >> But [02:32:46.520] >> Outside of just [02:32:47.320] >> If there is an effort, I’m not involved. [02:32:50.120] >> Okay. [02:32:51.400] Mhm. Fascinating. [02:32:53.280] >> But is it possible? [02:32:54.720] >> Yeah. Been there, done that. But uh [02:32:57.280] >> Well, I was just thinking you said, you [02:32:59.200] know, [02:32:59.400] >> Didn’t get Didn’t get the t-shirt. [02:33:01.896] >> [laughter] [02:33:02.280] >> Fair enough. Well, you had no gift shop. [02:33:04.560] Well, you you you mentioned your Mars [02:33:06.360] story and then I you know, I’m thinking [02:33:08.640] in my head if you can systematically do [02:33:10.400] that. And there are stories that go back [02:33:12.480] to [02:33:13.440] 17th century Swedish mystic Emanuel [02:33:15.640] Swedenborg, you know, saying he went to [02:33:17.680] other planets and coming back. If there [02:33:20.000] There a science behind that. [02:33:21.880] >> There is and um [02:33:24.240] uh [02:33:26.520] I didn’t mention that uh [02:33:28.760] there’s also [02:33:30.716] >> [sighs and gasps] [02:33:31.120] >> what they’re calling remote influencing, [02:33:34.000] which is actually a form of remote [02:33:36.480] persuasion, but um you can mentally [02:33:41.196] >> [sighs] [02:33:41.680] >> interact telepathically with others, [02:33:44.280] pass messages back and forth and all [02:33:46.160] that. We’ve learned how to do that. [02:33:47.960] >> Wow. [02:33:48.480] >> hard. Whether that’s people on Earth or [02:33:50.920] beings on another planet, it’s [02:33:53.760] actually very easy to do. At the extreme [02:33:57.480] highest levels of CRV, yeah. [02:34:00.440] >> Have you ever worked with a guy who [02:34:02.600] supposedly ran the CIA weird desk, Kit [02:34:05.240] Green? [02:34:07.160] >> Uh I know of Kit Green. [02:34:08.880] >> Okay. [02:34:09.560] >> Um [02:34:10.760] >> Have you ever been experimented [02:34:14.400] with vis-a-vis radiation to see if that [02:34:18.000] would affect your psychic abilities? [02:34:20.160] >> Oh, for that. [02:34:21.480] >> Yeah. [02:34:21.920] >> No, for that, but we can detect it uh [02:34:25.200] radiation quite easily. [02:34:27.680] >> Hm. [02:34:28.400] >> Uh not only [02:34:30.200] you know, like particle beam particle [02:34:32.600] weapons and all that. Uh [02:34:35.720] or radiation like you know, uranium and [02:34:41.240] radiant [02:34:42.840] uh [02:34:44.040] radium and all that, but also um [02:34:47.760] just um [02:34:50.520] uh transmitters, [02:34:52.480] you know, radio transmitters. Uh it’s [02:34:54.520] very possible. [02:34:56.280] Like um if the [02:34:58.880] enemy [clears throat] [02:35:01.080] in the field is transmitting, [02:35:04.840] we know generally [02:35:06.560] what their frequency band is because we [02:35:09.160] know what frequency bands the other [02:35:11.360] countries uses. [02:35:13.160] Okay? [02:35:14.862] >> [sighs] [02:35:15.040] >> But [02:35:16.240] you can say to remote viewer, [02:35:18.560] um [02:35:20.200] uh remote view this thing, and you’ll [02:35:24.280] come up and see something sticking up a [02:35:27.080] pole or something like that, [02:35:29.160] and it’s glowing, let’s say um [02:35:32.440] you take the visible spectrum and spread [02:35:35.320] it out over their radio frequency [02:35:38.120] spectrum they have, and you look for the [02:35:40.520] blue-green, now you know what [02:35:44.320] what frequency they’re transmitting on, [02:35:47.200] you turn your radio to that frequency, [02:35:49.320] and you intercept their [02:35:51.040] traffic. [02:35:51.720] >> Mhm. [02:35:53.080] It’s interesting [02:35:54.720] that areas of high entropy and nuclear [02:35:57.920] are easier to remote view uh because I I [02:36:01.120] think of the UFO nuclear connection, and [02:36:04.600] it seems like UFOs show up around nukes [02:36:07.360] and areas of high entropy, and it almost [02:36:09.200] feels like they do cleanup jobs around [02:36:11.240] Chernobyl [02:36:12.480] >> I’ve written a [02:36:14.040] I’ve written a paper about that that [02:36:19.000] if it’s true, [02:36:22.360] shows that it has nothing to do with [02:36:24.920] that at all as to why they show up. [02:36:27.880] >> So, why do you they show up? [02:36:29.680] >> Um [02:36:32.880] I don’t even know if there’s a [02:36:35.400] short method elevator method of saying [02:36:37.880] this. [02:36:39.480] The space-time continuum, okay? [02:36:44.240] Time is a part of space-time continuum. [02:36:47.400] Space is three-dimensional. [02:36:49.760] Time has got to be three-dimensional, [02:36:52.240] too. [02:36:53.600] >> People think of it as the fourth [02:36:54.960] dimension. [02:36:55.680] >> It’s not. [02:36:57.320] It is a part of three-dimensional space, [02:37:00.120] time, [02:37:01.200] okay? [02:37:02.960] Therefore, [02:37:04.680] let’s say that um [02:37:07.120] um [02:37:08.560] you know how in ancient times [02:37:12.600] the sun went around the earth and the [02:37:14.760] heavens went around the earth and we [02:37:16.480] were the center of everything, right? [02:37:18.080] >> Yes. [02:37:19.440] >> We look at time the same way. [02:37:21.760] We’re here and time comes toward us and [02:37:24.640] it goes past us and all that. [02:37:27.174] >> [sighs and gasps] [02:37:28.360] >> Bullcrap. [02:37:30.880] Time is a part of the space-time [02:37:33.760] continuum. [02:37:35.520] It’s linear because we’re going through [02:37:38.200] it. [02:37:39.840] Okay? [02:37:41.720] So, if there’s a disturbance in space [02:37:43.880] space-time continuum out here, [02:37:47.600] as we go toward it, [02:37:50.099] >> [sighs and gasps] [02:37:51.240] >> we can get, [02:37:53.920] you know, some of the waves of what it’s [02:37:57.520] of it coming. [02:37:59.720] Therefore, we can see what we call our [02:38:02.320] future. [02:38:03.640] We’re just picking up on where we are in [02:38:05.800] the space-time continuum as we go [02:38:07.600] through it. [02:38:08.800] Uh we can look into the past [02:38:11.320] and see what was there. [02:38:14.480] But space-time time itself [02:38:17.360] stands still. [02:38:21.000] And we’re passing through it. [02:38:24.240] Therefore, [02:38:25.440] if there’s some big disturbance in the [02:38:28.720] space-time continuum, [02:38:30.800] we will be attracted to it. [02:38:33.960] Some other people going through the [02:38:36.600] space-time continuum in another way will [02:38:38.960] also be attracted to it and it’s like [02:38:41.200] two trains coming into train station at [02:38:43.560] the same time [02:38:45.040] and there Bigfoot pops in [02:38:48.800] and then Bigfoot disappears because [02:38:51.640] we go on. [02:38:52.640] >> So, the disturbance creates some sort of [02:38:54.800] inward pull between, [02:38:56.480] >> Yeah. [02:38:57.200] >> timelines. [02:38:58.320] >> Yeah. [02:38:58.880] >> And you get a collision of worlds. [02:39:01.160] >> at the same time, [02:39:03.160] we see a portal open. We see a [02:39:06.960] UFO suddenly pop into existence and [02:39:10.040] suddenly pop out and things like that. [02:39:12.760] >> You remote viewed Chernobyl. [02:39:14.960] >> Oh yeah, ahead of time. Yeah. Three day [02:39:17.120] three days before it happened. [02:39:18.480] >> You predicted it. [02:39:19.440] >> Yeah. [02:39:19.920] >> Whoa. [02:39:20.760] >> Yeah. [02:39:21.880] >> And what did people say? [02:39:23.680] >> Oh, um the task on that was um describe [02:39:28.600] what’s going to be on the headlines in [02:39:31.040] the Sunday paper. And that was on [02:39:32.760] Friday. [02:39:35.240] Uh what I got was the Chernobyl [02:39:38.400] meltdown. [02:39:40.440] Well, [02:39:43.800] Iceland detected [02:39:46.520] the radiation [02:39:48.400] cloud coming over [02:39:50.640] on Tuesday. And Tuesday was when the [02:39:53.920] news came out about Chernobyl. [02:39:57.000] And therefore, the Sunday paper did not [02:40:00.040] have the Chernobyl event in it even [02:40:03.000] though it had already happened. [02:40:05.480] And so, I got a zero cuz it was wrong. [02:40:09.615] >> [sighs] [02:40:10.240] >> Wow. [02:40:11.580] >> [laughter] [02:40:12.080] >> Well, I think you got it you got it [02:40:13.560] right, but [02:40:14.400] >> I got it right. Described everything [02:40:16.120] even the purpose, how it happened, and [02:40:17.880] everything else, but uh [02:40:19.680] >> When you say the purpose or like what [02:40:22.040] what caused it? [02:40:23.240] >> What caused it? [02:40:24.040] >> Yeah. [02:40:24.480] >> And also the purpose. There was a [02:40:26.800] purpose. [02:40:27.320] >> What was the purpose? [02:40:31.640] >> Six tons of fissionable material [02:40:36.120] that was at the plant [02:40:38.600] not in the reactors, but it was at the [02:40:40.640] plant [02:40:43.800] was missing. Has been missing and is [02:40:46.920] unaccounted for. [02:40:48.320] >> Whoa. [02:40:50.160] Where do you think it’s at? [02:40:52.080] >> I know where it’s at. [02:40:53.501] >> [laughter] [02:40:53.800] >> You can’t say. [02:40:55.040] >> Um I won’t say, but uh yeah, I know [02:40:57.240] where it’s at. Uh but it was um [02:41:00.680] it was [02:41:02.016] >> [sighs and gasps] [02:41:02.680] >> So, you think that was a little you [02:41:04.760] know, uh intentional job being done? [02:41:07.840] >> I think so. [02:41:08.520] >> Not just a little meltdown. [02:41:09.880] >> No, uh no. [02:41:10.880] >> Well. [02:41:11.640] >> Yeah. [02:41:12.960] Uh but you know, it’s [02:41:15.200] >> And your your conviction level on that [02:41:16.840] is [02:41:18.000] >> pretty really high. [02:41:19.200] >> Over 90? [02:41:20.240] >> Yeah, yeah. [02:41:21.360] >> Close to 100? [02:41:22.240] >> Yeah. Yeah, close to 100, yeah. [02:41:25.240] >> Does anybody else in open-source world [02:41:28.600] believe this? [02:41:29.560] >> I think so. [02:41:30.240] >> Okay. So other people talk about it. [02:41:32.280] >> Nobody can account for the missing [02:41:34.400] stockpile that was there and isn’t now. [02:41:37.920] And it’s no longer there. [02:41:39.760] >> Wow. [02:41:40.600] >> Yeah. [02:41:41.520] >> I got to look into that. Um you also [02:41:44.560] were tasked with looking into a Russian [02:41:47.120] death ray? [02:41:49.200] >> Yeah. [02:41:51.320] Um [02:41:52.440] they um [02:41:53.920] the Russians were developing a [02:41:57.720] um [02:41:58.920] particle beam weapon at Semipalatinsk. [02:42:02.240] And um [02:42:04.480] so [02:42:06.240] somebody in one of our science groups or [02:42:09.640] something wanted to know what happens [02:42:11.440] inside the beam. [02:42:13.960] Well, on a particle beam weapon, you [02:42:16.160] can’t stick an instrument inside to find [02:42:18.280] out what’s happening because [02:42:20.440] it vaporizes it immediately. [02:42:23.200] So somebody had the genius idea of [02:42:25.520] sticking a remote viewer into the beam. [02:42:29.120] And so they came out and they told us [02:42:31.800] ahead of time, you know. [02:42:33.600] And uh [02:42:35.760] I thought [02:42:37.440] that’d be neat. [02:42:38.957] >> [laughter] [02:42:40.080] >> So I volunteered for it. And um [02:42:43.720] the [02:42:45.400] um we worked it to the point where I had [02:42:48.480] the perfect side integration. I was [02:42:51.240] standing there in front of this beam [02:42:53.367] >> [gasps] [02:42:53.840] >> and I stepped into it. [02:42:56.240] And when I did, [02:42:58.080] um [02:43:01.440] even time itself is messed up inside [02:43:04.120] that beam. [02:43:05.480] And uh the uh [02:43:09.520] the whole list of experiences just [02:43:12.840] were phenomenal. One of the things was [02:43:16.600] it was the most beautiful thing I’ve [02:43:19.280] ever seen in my life. Just uh [02:43:22.240] the colors and everything else. [02:43:24.880] But uh [02:43:26.120] what I got was [02:43:28.040] that the uh [02:43:30.000] the particles in the beam are not [02:43:32.320] shooting straight [02:43:34.080] like light does. [02:43:36.320] They swirl as they go. [02:43:39.000] And that was what the scientist wanted [02:43:41.200] to know, and so that was the part that [02:43:44.458] >> [sighs and gasps] [02:43:44.920] >> that they accepted back. All the other [02:43:47.600] experiences were just mine that I had, [02:43:50.800] and I don’t think anybody cared. [02:43:52.400] >> So some of your remote viewing [02:43:55.080] was in the service of fundamental [02:43:56.760] science espionage. [02:43:58.760] >> Well, you do what you’re tasked to do. [02:44:00.320] >> Mhm. [02:44:00.880] >> Yeah. Uh [02:44:03.400] >> So interesting. [02:44:04.840] >> Yeah. [02:44:05.160] >> Um [02:44:06.280] your fellow remote viewer who was highly [02:44:08.720] skilled, who we mentioned earlier in [02:44:10.040] this interview, Pat Price, died in a [02:44:12.400] very mysterious way. [02:44:13.800] >> met him. Yeah. [02:44:14.480] >> You never met him. Do you have any [02:44:15.760] theories as to [02:44:17.440] why he died? Or some people think that [02:44:19.280] maybe he was killed. I think Hal Puthoff [02:44:20.920] has publicly speculated about that. [02:44:25.000] >> Um [02:44:26.720] yeah. [02:44:28.120] Uh I’ve heard [02:44:30.440] other stories [02:44:32.360] from people who were there [02:44:34.640] who uh tell a different story from the [02:44:37.600] story that’s published. And uh also [02:44:41.240] uh I’ve heard that [02:44:43.840] a couple of years later [02:44:46.160] he was seen in a department store in [02:44:48.120] downtown Washington, D.C. [02:44:50.280] >> Mhm. [02:44:51.200] >> And uh [02:44:52.640] the [02:44:53.920] um [02:44:54.720] head of the department of security [02:44:57.680] years later said [02:44:59.800] Pat Price died and we haven’t heard from [02:45:02.440] him since. [02:45:04.240] >> Whoa. [02:45:05.560] Yeah, that’s a little coded message [02:45:07.600] there. [02:45:08.080] >> Oh yeah, uh-huh. [02:45:09.240] >> Interesting. [02:45:09.760] >> So I don’t think he might [02:45:12.240] still be alive or lived for a while [02:45:14.360] after that. He was cremated and all that [02:45:16.200] but uh [02:45:17.720] I’ve heard that the ambulance that [02:45:20.240] picked him up [02:45:21.720] was an unmarked ambulance drove away and [02:45:25.400] uh [02:45:26.240] his body was never seen since. [02:45:29.160] >> Why do you think [02:45:29.920] >> his family or anybody. [02:45:31.680] >> That’s it’s crazy. Why do you think that [02:45:34.960] the US hasn’t gone back to the moon? We [02:45:37.880] we just had the Artemis mission where we [02:45:39.520] sort of flew around the moon. [02:45:41.400] But since 1972 [02:45:43.400] since Apollo 17 I believe we have not [02:45:45.400] gone back to the moon. [02:45:46.360] >> And I have no idea. Um [02:45:50.120] I think we should go back. [02:45:53.320] >> What do you think happens with the [02:45:54.920] future of UFO disclosure? Do you think [02:45:57.280] in [02:45:58.240] you know, 20 30 years it sounds like you [02:46:01.320] are predicting some [02:46:02.920] calamities and some catastrophe [02:46:05.560] some population reduction. [02:46:07.520] >> not dealing with UFO not dealing with [02:46:09.880] UFOs and the ETs. [02:46:11.440] >> No no I know. [02:46:12.200] >> We’re going to do that to ourselves you [02:46:13.680] know. [02:46:13.920] >> Yeah, which that sucks. [02:46:16.840] But but alongside that it does feel like [02:46:19.480] right now there’s a lot of momentum [02:46:20.960] behind UFO disclosure. [02:46:22.720] >> I think the disclosure is going to come [02:46:25.160] out you know. [02:46:25.600] >> You do? [02:46:26.120] >> Yeah. [02:46:26.640] >> And so and what do you think the world [02:46:28.840] looks like on that dimension in 20 [02:46:31.200] years? Do you think it’s like academia [02:46:33.680] is teaching UFO classes and you know, [02:46:36.560] these are the alien races that are [02:46:38.520] visiting us that sort of thing? [02:46:39.960] >> Yeah, I think the [02:46:42.600] we will get exposure to the ETs you [02:46:46.680] know, physical exposure to the ETs [02:46:49.760] uh [02:46:50.440] within several years. [02:46:52.760] But, um you did for us to be in space [02:46:56.160] and join the [02:46:57.920] community out there, [02:46:59.800] uh that’s going to take a long time. [02:47:01.560] >> Do you think they’re going to reveal [02:47:02.800] their presence in a more kind of [02:47:05.240] widespread obvious way? [02:47:07.360] >> I think so. [02:47:08.120] >> Near term? [02:47:08.840] >> Yeah. [02:47:09.440] >> Next few years? [02:47:11.400] >> I think they’re already doing that, [02:47:12.600] yeah. [02:47:13.360] >> Okay. [02:47:13.840] >> And um [02:47:15.360] um you know, [02:47:18.200] if you were out there, [02:47:19.520] >> Mhm. [02:47:21.240] >> would you want the Earth people coming [02:47:22.840] out and dealing with them? [02:47:25.200] I wouldn’t. [02:47:27.160] >> [laughter] [02:47:27.400] >> I don’t know. It sort of depends on a [02:47:28.920] million different factors, but yeah, if [02:47:30.480] you were some super, you know, pure [02:47:32.960] >> Yeah. [02:47:33.640] >> ancient and advanced race of beings, [02:47:37.240] yeah, maybe maybe you wouldn’t want to [02:47:38.480] deal with the little chimps or [02:47:39.680] >> they’ve advanced in a different [02:47:40.960] direction. I wouldn’t I wouldn’t say [02:47:43.360] they’re more advanced. [02:47:44.760] >> Sure. [02:47:45.240] >> Not all of them, yeah. [02:47:46.440] >> Yeah. [02:47:48.160] How do you reconcile your [02:47:51.000] uh kind of religious uh inclinations [02:47:54.040] with all of this UFO and alien [02:47:56.040] knowledge? [02:47:56.760] >> I see no problem with it. [02:47:58.440] >> Mhm. [02:47:58.880] >> Um [02:48:00.360] um [02:48:01.840] I think you would be an absolute [02:48:04.320] idiot [02:48:06.160] to believe that on [02:48:09.760] 400 [02:48:11.200] quintillion planets that exist, this is [02:48:14.920] the only one that has life. [02:48:17.680] Come on. [02:48:19.562] >> [laughter] [02:48:20.240] >> And you would limit God to that? Come [02:48:22.960] on. [02:48:24.200] >> Yeah, fair enough. [02:48:26.200] Yeah, no, I I agree. All of God’s [02:48:28.400] creations, you know. [02:48:29.720] >> Yeah. [02:48:30.160] >> Yeah. I don’t think it’s so disruptive, [02:48:32.080] you know. People are talking about [02:48:33.600] >> I don’t either. [clears throat] [02:48:34.520] >> pastors getting sort of, you know, [02:48:36.480] spoken to by these intel people who are [02:48:39.040] worried that it’s going to cause a lot [02:48:40.320] of disruption. It’s like, who cares? [02:48:42.000] Just be a normal rational person about [02:48:44.520] it and you know, if you’re religious, [02:48:46.040] great. If you’re not, that’s fine, you [02:48:47.920] know. [02:48:49.240] >> Well, [02:48:50.560] being spoken to about it, I think is an [02:48:53.880] interpretation. [02:48:55.360] >> Mhm. [02:48:55.920] >> Like people say the men in black, they [02:48:57.920] threaten you at the end. [02:49:00.240] Uh, they don’t. [02:49:01.480] >> Mhm. [02:49:02.320] >> Uh, they tell you, you know, [02:49:04.720] you shouldn’t talk about this to [02:49:05.920] anybody. [02:49:07.280] And after you’ve sat there, [02:49:10.160] uh, one of the things when you’re being [02:49:13.000] interviewed by the men in black, [02:49:15.240] is you’re going to start trying to make [02:49:17.320] jokes. [02:49:18.040] >> Mhm. [02:49:18.720] >> They’re not going to respond. [02:49:21.200] No humor, period. [02:49:23.400] And so all of a sudden you’re getting [02:49:25.120] defensive. You’re getting all, [02:49:28.200] you know, and and all that. And so when [02:49:30.960] they say you shouldn’t talk this, [02:49:33.560] you take it as a threat. [02:49:36.720] They’re just telling you you shouldn’t [02:49:38.000] talk about this to anybody. [02:49:40.080] That’s all they’re saying. You know. [02:49:41.960] >> Yeah. Yeah. [02:49:43.440] Would you say you’re generally [02:49:45.120] clairvoyant and and sort of you have [02:49:47.120] like a psychic uh, propensity uh, beyond [02:49:50.320] just the remote viewing training? I [02:49:51.680] mean, it sounds like it given your [02:49:53.120] childhood, yeah. [02:49:54.120] >> I always have had, yeah. [02:49:55.320] >> Do you pick up anything about me? [02:49:57.840] >> Not really. I, uh, [02:50:00.680] one of the things that you learn to do [02:50:02.800] in [02:50:03.920] in the controlled remote viewing is turn [02:50:06.640] it off. [02:50:07.240] >> Mhm. [02:50:07.840] >> We have a thing called the ambience [02:50:09.480] exercise. [02:50:11.567] >> [sighs and gasps] [02:50:12.000] >> The ambience exercise makes you [02:50:13.880] sensitive to the world around you. [02:50:16.520] Um, [02:50:17.680] the [02:50:18.880] um, [02:50:20.680] ninjas have a thing called Sak No Jitsu [02:50:24.000] where you’re aware of everything in 360° [02:50:27.520] around you. [02:50:28.640] We developed that with the ambience [02:50:30.520] exercise. [02:50:32.000] And it gets to where you can’t go to a [02:50:33.600] restaurant, you can’t go to a church, [02:50:35.440] you can’t be around people. [02:50:37.360] You just I mean it’s it’s just bombard [02:50:40.480] you. [02:50:41.080] >> Hyper sensitive. [02:50:42.040] >> Yeah, and so you learn [02:50:44.280] with step 16, you learn to turn it off. [02:50:47.760] >> Mhm. [02:50:48.480] >> And there are 20 steps in all [02:50:50.600] in the in the training of it. [02:50:53.000] And um [02:50:54.440] you learn to turn it off. [02:50:56.240] And somebody will [02:50:59.160] um [02:51:00.560] will be in conversation with somebody [02:51:02.200] and they’ll forget a word or something [02:51:03.880] like that, you know, and [02:51:06.960] I [02:51:08.120] could dip and supply the word to them or [02:51:10.000] something like that. [02:51:11.480] And uh or they’ll forget a fact and I [02:51:13.800] can [02:51:15.160] dip in real quick and get and remind [02:51:17.960] them of [02:51:19.200] and they said, “Oh, yeah, I remember [02:51:20.760] that.” Yeah. [02:51:21.800] But uh you can help people that way and [02:51:24.928] >> [sighs] [02:51:25.040] >> uh [02:51:26.680] somebody [02:51:28.800] needs cheering up, you can get to their [02:51:32.040] subconscious and cheer them up. [02:51:34.200] But other than that, uh [02:51:38.200] I [02:51:40.120] I find it very distasteful to get into [02:51:42.720] other people’s mind. [02:51:43.880] >> Yeah. [02:51:44.600] >> I just [02:51:45.320] >> Uh. [02:51:45.960] >> I don’t do it. [02:51:46.760] >> Do you have any advice for me or for [02:51:48.920] audience members who want to get deeper [02:51:50.640] on the UFO stuff? They want to [02:51:53.360] understand [02:51:54.160] >> Mhm. [clears throat] [02:51:54.760] >> more kind of discrete truths. What’s [02:51:57.320] actually going on? Cuz you hear [02:52:00.120] all these differing things that are [02:52:01.760] often mutually exclusive [02:52:03.240] >> Oh, yeah. [02:52:03.640] >> from all the whole cast of, you know, [02:52:05.560] Motley crew of characters. Is there a [02:52:08.760] source that you really trust when it [02:52:10.520] comes to UFO stuff? [02:52:13.640] >> Oh, a few. [02:52:16.019] >> [sighs] [02:52:16.560] >> Um [02:52:18.800] but they’re individuals. [02:52:20.400] >> Who are they? [02:52:23.080] >> I’m not going to say that. [02:52:24.560] >> Oh, they’re they’re not public. [02:52:25.880] >> Mhm. [02:52:26.280] >> They’re not public. They’re private. [02:52:27.400] >> Oh, absolutely not. Like uh [02:52:29.800] my friend uh that was in charge of the [02:52:32.560] technology transfer. Uh [02:52:34.560] >> Mhm. you know, I’ll never give his name. [02:52:38.760] >> That’s amazing. [02:52:39.720] >> Yeah. [02:52:40.040] >> Who’s in charge of technology transfer [02:52:41.600] from the ETs? [02:52:42.880] >> From one of the ETs. [02:52:45.440] >> Wow. [02:52:45.880] >> From one of the groups of ETs. [02:52:47.400] >> Would you ever know it with him? Was he [02:52:48.640] just like kind of a humble like under [02:52:50.840] the radar? [02:52:51.240] >> I’d go visit him and he’d say, “Len, you [02:52:53.360] got to come see my new toys.” Yeah. [02:52:55.440] >> Why do you think he was so open with you [02:52:58.640] about all this stuff? Presumably he kept [02:53:00.960] it secret. [02:53:01.880] >> Oh, he basically knew who I was and my [02:53:04.680] background and all that. So. [02:53:06.600] >> He knew your high-level clearances and [02:53:08.480] your history. [02:53:09.400] >> Yeah. Mhm. [02:53:11.440] >> Fascinating. Well, [02:53:13.880] I want to know more. [02:53:15.624] >> [laughter] [02:53:16.280] >> I really [02:53:16.720] >> Ev- Everybody does. [02:53:17.960] >> Yeah. [02:53:18.360] >> Uh [02:53:18.840] >> Do you think that the public has a right [02:53:20.680] to know more? Do you think it’s it’s at [02:53:22.160] all destabilizing or there’s like a [02:53:24.280] reason to slow it down? Like [02:53:26.080] >> They say they say when in doubt classify [02:53:28.720] and so uh [02:53:30.000] too much gets classified. [02:53:32.000] >> I agree. [02:53:32.960] >> And uh [02:53:33.920] >> Like why can’t we know about the ET tech [02:53:35.680] transfer program? That sounds awesome. [02:53:37.600] >> Yeah. And um you know, all you hear is [02:53:41.280] wild rumors about it. Like who invented [02:53:44.320] Velcro, you know? And uh [02:53:47.640] uh the thing is [02:53:50.760] that um [02:53:54.120] for a lot of things you don’t want the [02:53:55.560] public involved. [02:53:57.800] They just mess everything up. [02:53:59.760] Uh other things is [02:54:01.800] uh [02:54:03.160] you don’t want [02:54:05.440] sometimes religion involved [02:54:08.200] or politics involved or whatever. [02:54:11.840] And for another thing, many times [02:54:16.840] it wouldn’t do any good for [02:54:18.680] whether people know it or not. [02:54:20.640] Um [02:54:22.080] and you know, some of the secret stuff [02:54:24.520] that’s kept secret [02:54:26.960] is wonderful. Everybody should know [02:54:29.520] about it. [02:54:31.080] There are other stuffs that I hope that [02:54:33.280] I hope nobody ever finds out about. [02:54:35.400] >> Absolutely. [02:54:36.240] >> Yeah. [02:54:36.560] >> Yeah, that anybody who thinks that [02:54:38.240] nothing should be classified, I mean, [02:54:39.960] that’s that’s ridiculous. Like atomic [02:54:42.080] trade secrets should obviously be [02:54:43.760] classified. I mean, you know, honestly, [02:54:45.800] if you know, to the extent that [02:54:48.880] like at the higher levels of remote [02:54:51.000] viewing ability, you can do damage to [02:54:53.440] other people, I would hope that never [02:54:54.800] comes out. I mean, that’s a really scary [02:54:56.640] prospect. [02:54:57.720] >> And, you know, like they said in World [02:54:59.520] War II, [02:55:00.720] loose lips sink ships. [02:55:03.760] >> There you go. [02:55:04.600] >> Yeah. [02:55:05.000] >> Yeah. [02:55:06.200] Well, Lynn, I really appreciate this, [02:55:08.680] man. This was a lot of fun. It was very [02:55:11.200] kind of comprehensive. [02:55:13.200] >> we kind of went all over the place here, [02:55:15.000] but [02:55:15.480] >> We did. [02:55:16.280] >> I enjoyed talking to you. [02:55:17.520] >> Yeah, and I have ADD, so [02:55:19.760] and I love talking to you, too. So, no, [02:55:22.360] this was an absolute blast. You’re full [02:55:24.040] of knowledge. [02:55:24.920] >> I enjoyed this. Well, I’d like to plug [02:55:27.400] my book, which is [02:55:29.400] the seventh sense, [02:55:31.480] uh [02:55:32.760] by me. [02:55:33.480] >> Get it on the Amazon. [02:55:35.120] >> Uh on Amazon, and um [02:55:38.120] the um sixth sense [02:55:41.160] is your ambiance. [02:55:42.720] >> Mhm. [02:55:43.400] >> What you feel in the room around you. [02:55:45.720] That’s a real sense. [02:55:46.840] >> How you feeling sixth sense versus [02:55:48.240] seventh sense? [02:55:49.280] >> is when I can feel what’s going on in [02:55:52.160] the Kremlin. [02:55:53.720] >> Wow. [02:55:54.480] >> And that’s your seventh sense. [02:55:57.080] Um [02:55:58.080] but also [02:55:59.640] um [02:56:00.280] on TikTok, YouTube, and Instagram, [02:56:05.080] uh I have a growing series of short [02:56:08.840] little three-minute things that explain [02:56:12.360] all the all the aspects of controlled [02:56:16.280] remote viewing remote viewing, and all [02:56:18.120] that. [02:56:18.560] >> That’s awesome. Is it Is it just [02:56:20.120] @LynnBuchanan, or what do you know what [02:56:22.000] the handle is? [02:56:22.600] >> It’s um [02:56:24.160] inside remote viewing, all one word. [02:56:27.640] >> Check out [02:56:28.280] >> inside remote viewing. [02:56:29.480] >> Check out inside remote viewing. [02:56:31.520] >> Yeah. [02:56:31.960] >> TikTok, Instagram [02:56:33.880] >> Right. [02:56:34.360] >> X, maybe Twitter. [02:56:36.440] >> Oh, no, just those three. [02:56:37.720] >> Okay, check out TikTok, Instagram, [02:56:39.840] YouTube at inside [02:56:42.480] >> inside remote viewing. [02:56:43.960] >> Inside remote viewing, check it out. [02:56:45.680] >> Also, I have a course that I teach [02:56:47.440] online. [02:56:48.800] Uh [02:56:49.880] and it’s the full course of the remote [02:56:51.800] viewing, controlled remote viewing [02:56:55.680] created by Ingo Swann and used by the [02:56:58.320] military for all these years for [02:57:00.920] intelligence collection, now being used [02:57:03.640] for businesses [02:57:05.480] um for police work [02:57:08.000] for institutions, for research and [02:57:10.280] development. [02:57:11.080] >> What’s that website? [02:57:12.440] >> Uh it’s [02:57:13.880] um c r v [02:57:16.440] i e w e r c r viewer .com. [02:57:21.240] >> crviewer.com, [02:57:23.640] check it out. And you told me off air [02:57:25.280] that some of your students are getting [02:57:27.560] amazing results akin to or better than [02:57:29.880] some of your past [02:57:31.120] >> Some of them are going better than we [02:57:32.600] ever did in the military. [02:57:33.800] >> That’s amazing. [02:57:35.360] >> And um [02:57:36.800] the um [02:57:38.720] uh course is on a [02:57:41.520] uh course platform, educational platform [02:57:44.000] called Kajabi. [02:57:45.320] >> Mhm. [02:57:45.880] >> Uh you get permanent access to it when [02:57:49.640] you sign up. [02:57:51.160] I don’t believe in any of this stuff of, [02:57:53.640] you know, every 6 months you pay for a [02:57:55.640] re- I don’t believe in that. [02:57:57.680] Um you get permanent access and we have [02:58:01.120] webinars where we go over [02:58:03.600] people’s work. [02:58:05.240] We talk about things that aren’t in the [02:58:07.680] course and things like that. [02:58:09.680] >> If levels six through, I forgot what it [02:58:12.680] was, 11 are, you know, kind of [02:58:15.240] classified, but you were given access to [02:58:17.240] that. How are people in the civilian [02:58:19.520] world able to [02:58:21.040] >> No, I give um I give access to stages 1 [02:58:25.080] through 7. [02:58:26.120] >> Mhm. [02:58:27.040] So, how do they get better results with [02:58:28.360] that than the higher [02:58:30.400] >> Uh they’re they’re getting more accurate [02:58:32.680] than we were. [02:58:33.640] >> Mhm. [02:58:34.280] >> It’s amazing. Uh [02:58:36.320] >> But, you were saying that, you know, [02:58:37.960] some of the more [02:58:39.520] you know, kind of uh [02:58:41.360] spooky stuff goes on at level 7 through [02:58:44.520] >> Uh higher level 8 through 18. [02:58:47.600] >> Yeah. [02:58:48.760] >> Uh [02:58:49.400] and that’s not taught to the public. [02:58:51.320] >> Okay. [02:58:52.400] But, pure on pure accuracy, all you need [02:58:55.200] is 1 through [02:58:56.880] 7, and you can get more accurate than [02:58:58.720] people who know 1 through 18. [02:59:02.800] >> But, not the same kind of information. [02:59:04.640] >> Got it. Interesting. [02:59:05.800] >> Okay. [02:59:06.600] >> Cool. [02:59:07.080] >> Yeah. [02:59:07.480] >> Just wanted to clarify there. [02:59:08.960] >> Yeah. [02:59:09.320] >> Leave no stone unturned. [02:59:10.840] >> Yeah. [02:59:11.160] >> Okay. [laughter] [02:59:12.000] Thanks, Lynn. Well, I appreciate this. [02:59:14.520] Um this was awesome. I really appreciate [02:59:16.320] all you may have an amazing history, and [02:59:18.560] >> honor being invited. Thank you very [02:59:20.720] much. [02:59:21.240] >> Well, it’s an honor to have you. I’m [02:59:23.000] just uh you know, a measly interviewer. [02:59:26.040] >> I’m [laughter] [02:59:26.880] glad to finally meet you, too. [02:59:28.240] >> Well, likewise, man. No, this is a full [02:59:30.000] circle moment. I You were really [02:59:32.600] going to be, and I’m glad because I I [02:59:34.760] didn’t know much at the time, but you [02:59:36.680] were going to be the first American [02:59:38.360] Alchemist. And now you’re I know so much [02:59:41.160] more, and so we can have a better [02:59:43.200] conversation. But, this is a full circle [02:59:44.960] moment. It’s very cool. [02:59:46.200] >> Thank you very much. [02:59:47.120] >> Thank you. [02:59:54.040] Alchemist, did you enjoy that? Well, [02:59:56.040] here’s the thing. That episode was just [02:59:58.440] the tip of the iceberg. If you want the [03:00:00.280] full picture, head over to the American [03:00:02.600] Alchemy magazine we just launched on [03:00:05.200] Substack. That’s where we deep dive into [03:00:07.640] all sorts of crazy topics that we don’t [03:00:09.920] have time to fit into every video. 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