tucker-burchett-underwater-ufo-2025-10-10

Tucker Carlson interviews Rep. Tim Burchett — underwater UFOs & non-human tech (2025)

Source: The Tucker Carlson Show (YouTube), “New Underwater UFO Sightings and the Non-Human Tech the Government Is Hiding | Rep. Tim Burchett.” Guest: Rep. Tim Burchett (R-TN), House Oversight; co-organizer of the July 2023 UAP hearing. Published: 2025-10-10. Duration: 1:37:26. Views: ~1.24M. URL: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3eiFAl2JtQ Extraction: youtube_transcript.py (auto-captions; >> marks a turn — Tucker vs. Burchett inferred from context), captured 2026-06-05. Verbatim auto-transcript. Analysis: tucker-burchett-underwater-ufo-2025.

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[00:00:00.160] Thank you, Congressman, for doing this. [00:00:01.520] I never talk about UFO. [00:00:03.760] >> Thank you, Tim. Uh, never talk about [00:00:05.759] UFOs. We don’t do shows on UFOs, UAPs, [00:00:08.080] whatever they’re calling them, these [00:00:09.120] mysterious lights, these objects, [00:00:10.880] because I know for a dead certain fact [00:00:13.120] that there is an ongoing 70-year ongoing [00:00:16.640] disinformation campaign by the US [00:00:18.320] government to soak confusion. Um, some [00:00:21.520] of the people participating in that [00:00:23.039] effort, I don’t think they know they’re [00:00:24.960] participating in the effort, but they [00:00:26.240] are nevertheless selling lies in an [00:00:30.080] effort to get people off the trail of [00:00:32.079] what this really is. There is something [00:00:33.600] going on. What is it? It It’s so hard to [00:00:36.480] know. You’re one of the few people from [00:00:39.200] my perspective who seems sincere. Um, [00:00:42.000] you’re also al also informed as a member [00:00:43.680] of Congress and so I’m just grateful [00:00:45.440] that you’re doing this uh because I [00:00:48.079] think you’re going to be telling the [00:00:49.039] truth. So um what are these things? [00:00:59.120] [Applause] [00:01:00.240] [Music] [00:01:07.940] [Applause] [00:01:08.490] [Music] [00:01:13.040] >> Well, I don’t know. I think there’s um a [00:01:15.280] lot of different misconceptions about [00:01:18.000] them. Um, you know, I I I kind of came [00:01:20.400] into it organically, I guess. I had [00:01:22.560] pretty cool parents. They would just um [00:01:25.040] take me to the library and just let me [00:01:27.119] stay or I’d ride my bike over and stay a [00:01:29.119] couple hours and grew up in the 70s in [00:01:30.799] Tennessee. And, you know, I guess now [00:01:33.360] you’d probably taken to DCS or something [00:01:35.840] for that. But yeah, [00:01:36.960] >> you know, I went in there and I can [00:01:38.320] remember there was a a stack of books on [00:01:40.159] a thing and you know they had all the [00:01:42.079] you know something on [00:01:44.000] >> uh maybe the occult or something like [00:01:46.079] that and then Bigfoot and then um or [00:01:48.479] something on UFOs and I picked up the [00:01:50.079] UFO book started reading about it and it [00:01:52.240] it just fascinated me and I and I read [00:01:54.880] the Bible. I’m a Christian. I’m not a [00:01:56.799] very good one obviously by my chosen [00:01:58.640] profession but but you know the Bible [00:02:02.960] talks about um Ezekiel saw the wheel and [00:02:07.280] >> people always say well that was a dream [00:02:08.959] you know they always try to overexlain [00:02:10.640] things in the Bible and I just think it [00:02:12.480] was a it’s written for simple folks like [00:02:14.959] me and I agree with that [00:02:16.879] >> and it was a translation though and at [00:02:19.760] the time the most technologically [00:02:21.680] advanced item that they had was a wheel [00:02:24.000] and it describes a wheel within a wheel. [00:02:26.400] >> Exactly. [00:02:26.800] >> It describes a landing gear and all [00:02:28.400] these other things that we would today [00:02:30.959] say are modern-day flying saucers. [00:02:34.160] >> And it’s pretty specific and it’s a [00:02:36.160] pretty The Ezekiel passage you’re [00:02:37.920] referring to is it it it’s not just like [00:02:40.879] a parenthetical note. It’s like a it’s [00:02:43.120] like a whole description. [00:02:44.160] >> Oh yeah. He goes into it. He describes I [00:02:46.239] think the landing gear in some [00:02:48.319] translations uh it talks about it being [00:02:51.519] hooves of animal like the hoof of an [00:02:53.440] animal which if you see you know you see [00:02:55.360] when we went when we went to the moon [00:02:57.680] that there’s um the landing gear the you [00:03:00.879] know it’s got a pad if we actually went [00:03:02.720] to the moon um I know there’s a lot of [00:03:04.800] people there that don’t believe it but [00:03:06.560] >> I’m arching my eyebrows but we’ll [00:03:08.000] refrain from comment. [00:03:08.879] >> Yeah. Yeah. But the um but but uh so I’m [00:03:13.280] laying on my couch. Fast forward, I’m in [00:03:15.200] Congress. I’m laying on my couch and I’m [00:03:17.760] I’m getting ready to go to sleep. I [00:03:19.519] sleep in my office um in shower in the [00:03:22.159] gym. I’m not, as my banker says, he [00:03:24.800] called me one day and said um he said he [00:03:27.360] said, “Brother, you’re um” He said, “I’m [00:03:29.760] pretty sure that you’re the most honest [00:03:31.200] member of Congress, but I know you’re [00:03:32.640] the poorest.” So, so I I I do that. And [00:03:36.720] um and so I was watching there was a [00:03:38.720] thing on UFOs and they were talking [00:03:40.319] about um some former members were [00:03:43.120] involved in some stuff trying to find [00:03:44.879] out something. I thought, you know, I’m [00:03:46.159] going to start asking some questions. [00:03:48.159] And then I’m walking down the street and [00:03:51.040] the center of all media in Washington [00:03:52.799] DC, TMZ, his name is Colin. He’s a good [00:03:55.440] friend of mine. We’ve been to lunch and [00:03:57.920] hang out some, but he he stopped me and [00:04:00.879] I didn’t know who he was and he said, [00:04:02.080] “Hey, I’m with TMZ.” said, “What do you [00:04:04.000] think about this UFO report that’s [00:04:05.439] getting ready to come out?” And I said I [00:04:07.680] said, “Brother, it’ll look like it was [00:04:09.040] shot with a shotgun because it’ll be [00:04:10.959] it’ll be all redacted.” [00:04:12.400] >> Oh, yeah. [00:04:12.799] >> And and then um and I said, “And if it [00:04:16.400] and it won’t come out when they say it’s [00:04:18.000] going to come out.” [00:04:19.280] >> And I said, “Really? Why?” And I said, [00:04:20.560] “Well, probably because the original [00:04:23.199] report is probably going to have [00:04:24.479] something in it and they’re going to [00:04:25.520] pull it back.” And sure enough, they [00:04:26.880] did. And it was heavily redacted and it [00:04:28.720] was just a big fluff piece, nothing. And [00:04:31.280] then I said the magic words which end up [00:04:33.280] putting on one of my t-shirts which I [00:04:34.880] sell on my website that um more people [00:04:37.360] believe in UFOs than believe in [00:04:39.520] Congress. And um [00:04:41.440] >> and for good reason [00:04:42.240] >> and for great reason. Um and so people [00:04:45.840] started calling me, you know, all these [00:04:47.600] national figures that are you see [00:04:49.520] reporters, legitimate reporters like [00:04:51.440] yourself, people from all over the [00:04:53.440] country. And um so I start asking [00:04:56.800] questions and um and I get with Luna and [00:05:00.720] some other folks. Matt Gates was [00:05:02.560] involved in it at the time. And um we uh [00:05:06.880] we went to the chairman and said, “Let’s [00:05:10.000] have a let’s have a hearing.” And I [00:05:12.160] think they really Tucker I think they [00:05:13.360] just patted us on the head and said, [00:05:14.560] “Sure, we’ll have the hearing, you know, [00:05:16.000] and they’re going to make fun of you and [00:05:17.680] go on.” Turned out I talked to some [00:05:20.160] old-timers that were there um reporters. [00:05:23.360] They said that was the most [00:05:26.000] uh the most attended hearing they’d ever [00:05:28.880] had. They had to open up another room [00:05:30.800] and there were people lined up down the [00:05:32.320] hall. When I walked out at um I see it [00:05:36.479] was I guess in the morning I I walked [00:05:38.479] out of office had to be on an early show [00:05:40.160] about it at 4:30 in the morning. People [00:05:42.400] were already lined up outside the [00:05:43.759] building and they come from all over the [00:05:45.440] country. One guy came on his vacation [00:05:47.039] and there was ministers there. There’s [00:05:48.639] people. So, it really touched a nerve [00:05:50.880] and um [00:05:52.400] >> they’re hoping for disclosure. [00:05:53.840] >> That’s exactly right. The truth and [00:05:55.280] they’re tired of being told they’re [00:05:57.039] idiots and you know and the funny thing [00:05:58.720] about it all is is that when I go to [00:06:01.199] speak to groups it never fails that [00:06:05.039] somebody of prominence of prominence [00:06:07.919] will come a doctor, a lawyer, a PR [00:06:10.160] person will come up to me and say, “Hey, [00:06:12.160] I had a experience. I was sitting at a I [00:06:14.639] was helping out a colleague. I I rarely [00:06:16.800] go out of town. This is kind of unusual [00:06:19.280] for me. So, this is kind of a a [00:06:21.199] interesting deal for me up here, but I [00:06:23.440] went to another congressman’s district [00:06:25.440] to help him um run for reelection. We’re [00:06:28.080] sitting in a country club and um and I’m [00:06:31.199] not a country clubber type, as you can [00:06:33.199] probably tell. Jackie Gleason said, “I [00:06:35.440] wouldn’t join a country club that have [00:06:36.720] somebody like me.” And I’m sort of like [00:06:38.160] that way, you know. And I sit next to [00:06:40.000] this lady and she was classy. You could [00:06:42.720] tell she was she was old money. She [00:06:45.039] wasn’t new money. She wasn’t She had [00:06:47.039] nice jewelry on and she had the clothes [00:06:50.000] you could tell were were nice and she [00:06:52.080] was she was just a classy lady. And she [00:06:54.319] said she said, “Well, Congressman, about [00:06:57.199] those UFOs.” And I thought, “Well, here [00:06:58.960] it comes. You know, I’m going to get [00:07:00.560] popped.” And she said, “I had an [00:07:03.120] experience when I was um when I was in [00:07:05.840] college.” She said she talked about [00:07:07.919] going to pick up her um her brother and [00:07:11.440] this thing followed them down um it for [00:07:14.319] several minutes. You know, it was um [00:07:17.360] cylindrical shaped um [00:07:20.639] and it followed them. It was I think it [00:07:22.880] was close to dark and it was kind of lit [00:07:24.880] up. It had a I think a bluish tint to it [00:07:27.759] or something and it flew it followed [00:07:29.440] them for quite some time and then it [00:07:31.840] just took off and they were like, “What [00:07:33.120] in the world was that?” and they, you [00:07:34.880] know, this was in the 70s and um and she [00:07:38.400] said, “I really haven’t really told many [00:07:39.759] people that.” And I get stories like [00:07:41.759] that. I had a and and when they film you [00:07:44.880] when I was early on in Congress, I had [00:07:47.280] plenty of time obviously. Um it being [00:07:49.840] the 435th most powerful member of [00:07:51.759] Congress and you know these uh History [00:07:54.479] Channel, all these folks would come [00:07:55.680] interview me and they would do one time [00:07:57.039] they interview me for like an hour. So [00:07:58.960] they would take segments of that and put [00:08:00.720] that out for just multiple issues, you [00:08:03.520] know, of of their TV show hunting UFOs [00:08:06.240] or whatever. And I remember I was in [00:08:08.240] Nashville at the time and a colleague, a [00:08:10.720] former state legislator, a guy was in [00:08:12.720] leadership called me up. And I remember [00:08:15.199] he and I, it’s kind of ironic that he [00:08:18.319] was back back in East Tennessee and I [00:08:19.919] was in Nashville for a get together I [00:08:22.800] was throwing for our state legislators [00:08:24.319] cuz nobody ever when I was in [00:08:26.080] legislature, nobody ever did anything [00:08:27.440] for us from Congress and I just get down [00:08:29.599] there and throw him a spaghetti dinner [00:08:30.960] or something, you know. And the phone [00:08:33.120] rang and it was him. And he said, [00:08:34.800] “Timbo,” he said, “I just saw you on TV [00:08:37.120] on the UFO show.” And I said, “Really?” [00:08:40.399] And I thought, “Here it comes. He’s [00:08:41.680] going to pop me.” He said, “Let me tell [00:08:43.760] you a story about when I was in the [00:08:44.959] Navy.” And he was older. He was [00:08:47.120] hollering back at his wife. What year [00:08:48.399] was that? And she would holler. It was I [00:08:50.720] think it was in the late 50s. And he was [00:08:52.800] on a um I believe it’s a tin can, but [00:08:55.120] that’s a destroyer. You probably know [00:08:56.560] more. You could But anyway, he was in [00:08:58.640] the Navy. And he said they were, it was [00:09:00.399] early on when they were first um putting [00:09:03.040] nuclear um uh missiles on subs. They [00:09:06.880] were unloading a missile for the sub. [00:09:09.360] And he said the sub got out there and [00:09:11.920] then this thing just flew over the top [00:09:13.839] of them. He said, remember said, Timbo, [00:09:16.320] if that thing was two city blocks, it [00:09:19.120] was it had to be two city blocks wide. [00:09:21.920] He said it was cylindrical. And he named [00:09:23.920] it and he described it. And then he said [00:09:26.240] it um um he said it just took off. No [00:09:31.120] noise, no heat, no vapor, nothing. And [00:09:34.320] they all just stood there and we’re [00:09:36.560] talking. They’re going, “What the heck [00:09:38.080] was that?” [00:09:38.800] >> Yeah. [00:09:39.200] >> You know, and then they get back on [00:09:40.720] shore. They go back to shore and he said [00:09:43.040] that um you know the men in the suit, he [00:09:45.360] said, “I figured it was CIA or [00:09:46.880] something.” And they said, “If y’all [00:09:48.800] don’t is this national security? If you [00:09:50.959] ever talk about this, you’ll be busting [00:09:52.800] rocks for the rest of your life if [00:09:54.160] you’re lucky. Well, there’s nothing like [00:09:55.839] ending the day by the fire, book in your [00:09:58.000] hand, dogs at your feet, cup of coffee [00:10:00.399] at your side. I can tell you it works. [00:10:04.000] And what makes it better is Cozy Earth. [00:10:05.920] We’re not even sure you’ve heard of the [00:10:07.760] bubble cuddle blanket. [00:10:10.480] We have. It’s a big deal. 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[00:11:32.320] >> Threatening them, um, etc. So, tell us [00:11:35.040] about your experience as you’ve pushed [00:11:37.440] for more disclosure. What kind of [00:11:39.120] reaction have you received? [00:11:40.160] >> I think the arrogance from the federal [00:11:42.320] government, um, there’s a control thing [00:11:44.959] that you see in every aspect of [00:11:46.480] government. Everybody in power wants to [00:11:48.399] keep you out of their little circle of [00:11:50.399] power, [00:11:50.880] >> of course. And I think the monetary [00:11:54.079] concern is there. I if if could you [00:11:57.680] imagine if they had something that would [00:12:02.079] could heat homes in the summer in the in [00:12:05.519] the winter and cool them in the summer [00:12:08.240] and had zero cost. I mean it’s something [00:12:12.240] that we could it would put everybody out [00:12:14.240] of business. The war pimps at the [00:12:15.600] Pentagon would have to go out of [00:12:16.720] business. they wouldn’t we wouldn’t have [00:12:18.320] to be in wars all over the world which [00:12:20.399] are if you get down to it’s it’s about [00:12:22.480] oil. It’s always a battle oil. And um [00:12:25.920] and so you’ve got the greed factor, you [00:12:28.560] got the power factor, and then you got [00:12:30.720] just the arrogance. And the Bible talks [00:12:32.480] about professing themselves to be wives. [00:12:34.079] They became fools. That’s right. And [00:12:35.519] there’s nobody in Washington that [00:12:36.959] doesn’t think they’re wise. [00:12:38.399] >> I wonder though, I mean, for sure. So [00:12:41.200] you think there um this is an effort to [00:12:44.240] hide the existence of superior [00:12:46.240] technology because it’s a threat to [00:12:47.920] existing industry. [00:12:49.120] >> I think that’s part of it and also but [00:12:51.279] it’s like this you you we’re motorcycle [00:12:53.360] guys. Say if I took a say I took a brand [00:12:56.639] new Indian or Harley-Davidson down to uh [00:12:59.279] back in time to you know the Mayflower [00:13:01.839] or whatever and gave it to them you know [00:13:04.160] they would maybe shine it. They wouldn’t [00:13:06.240] know how to [00:13:07.360] >> do anything. I mean of course they [00:13:08.880] didn’t have car we don’t have [00:13:09.760] carburetors. They wouldn’t know how to [00:13:10.880] do anything with fuel injection. They [00:13:12.399] probably couldn’t ever make the fuel [00:13:14.000] high enough octane where it kick it off. [00:13:16.000] They maybe could get it started if they [00:13:18.000] got lucky at some point, right? [00:13:19.839] >> But that would be a rarity. I think [00:13:21.440] that’s sort of if there is something [00:13:23.680] >> that they can’t they don’t know what it [00:13:25.839] is. And I think too [00:13:27.600] >> they have um compartmentalized this [00:13:30.240] stuff. So you think foyer, I’m going to [00:13:32.000] freedom of information. Everybody says, [00:13:33.519] “Well, just freedom of information at [00:13:34.959] Burchick. Go to Area 51.” There’s [00:13:37.040] nothing at Area 51. they’ve moved it to [00:13:38.800] right pad or something else since then. [00:13:41.120] But the point is is that everybody in [00:13:44.480] government is looking down the barrel or [00:13:46.560] looking in their little area. And to [00:13:49.120] their knowledge, most of those people [00:13:50.720] are telling the truth. And they sent it [00:13:52.720] off to these these there’s five or six [00:13:55.120] corporations that it’s been in it’s been [00:13:57.440] disclosed in in um in hearings that we [00:14:00.639] think probably has some of this [00:14:03.120] technology, but it has been so [00:14:05.199] compartmentalized the people. I mean, [00:14:06.959] there’s nobody alive that was around [00:14:08.320] when in Roswell of 47 and incidents that [00:14:11.600] happened in Texas and others all over [00:14:13.279] the all over the world. And so, they [00:14:16.320] don’t really know what they’re looking [00:14:17.600] at. They’re looking at something and [00:14:19.120] they’ve they’ve associated it or given [00:14:21.440] it to these corporations that have a [00:14:24.639] quasi governmental connection, but [00:14:26.639] they’re far enough apart where I can’t [00:14:28.160] go foyer. I can’t go foyer Ford. I mean, [00:14:30.320] I could, but they’re just going to tell [00:14:31.600] me go jump in the lake. I’m not going to [00:14:33.360] tell you. But I’m I guess I’m stumbling [00:14:36.320] over kind of the most basic claim that [00:14:38.399] they make, which is that all this [00:14:40.000] information is classified. [00:14:42.000] >> Yeah. [00:14:42.399] >> On what grounds could the federal [00:14:44.399] government justify classifying [00:14:47.040] reports of things that it’s servicemen [00:14:50.160] have seen? [00:14:50.959] >> Every time it’s national security, [00:14:52.320] Tucker, [00:14:52.800] >> what does that mean? [00:14:53.680] >> I I don’t know. But they but you have a [00:14:55.600] group of people that are so afraid of [00:14:57.519] the well the industrial war machine that [00:14:59.839] funds their campaigns. So, you go to [00:15:01.600] these, you look at all the people that [00:15:03.920] that that stop when I have a disclosure [00:15:06.000] bill. I just want to know, you know, I’m [00:15:07.920] not saying they’re out there, but we’re [00:15:09.199] spending tens of million. Every [00:15:10.560] department, FBI, CIA, [00:15:13.519] um I’m pretty sure TVA doesn’t, but they [00:15:16.160] probably should, but there’s probably [00:15:17.760] every every alphabet agency in the [00:15:20.160] country has a have a has a wing that’s [00:15:22.800] investigating these things. NASA, they [00:15:24.959] are all doing it. They’re all doing [00:15:26.240] they’ll admit that they’re they’re [00:15:27.360] looking at something, but then you come [00:15:28.959] to them, they say, “They don’t exist, [00:15:30.320] but we need the money to do it.” And now [00:15:32.399] the interesting thing is, [00:15:33.680] >> and that’s in the budget. [00:15:34.959] >> Oh, yeah. And now the interesting thing [00:15:36.800] is is that the um uh is that they’ve um [00:15:41.760] u seen that the opinion polls are [00:15:44.079] showing that over half the people in the [00:15:45.839] country believe something else is going [00:15:47.440] on, [00:15:48.079] >> of course. [00:15:48.720] >> And so now they’re saying, “Hey, we need [00:15:51.199] money to study this.” I mean it’s it’s [00:15:53.120] the cat drag going after its tail really [00:15:55.680] and it’s just a circular thing that they [00:15:57.680] just after money and they don’t really [00:15:59.600] care. [00:16:00.399] >> Well, of course they don’t. That’s for [00:16:03.199] sure. But there is a process by which [00:16:06.720] the Congress demands disclosure and that [00:16:09.199] process has been thwarted and I’m just [00:16:10.880] interested in getting details on how [00:16:13.040] that happened. So the UAP disclosure act [00:16:14.880] of 2023 I think [00:16:17.519] >> required disclosure that passed right [00:16:20.800] >> allegedly. But again, who’s going to [00:16:23.440] enforce it? [00:16:25.199] >> So, but what did that do you remember [00:16:26.560] what that act required? [00:16:28.480] >> It is um I do not believe it passed. The [00:16:31.839] one that I’m thinking about did not pass [00:16:33.440] in the Senate because you remember I had [00:16:35.440] the bill. It was two pages long for [00:16:37.680] disclosure. [00:16:38.480] >> What did it say? [00:16:39.040] >> And then it just said if it dealt with [00:16:40.880] UAPs, UFOs, it disclose it. If it if a [00:16:44.560] file contains it, America has a right to [00:16:46.800] see it. Unredacted. And Chuck Schumer’s [00:16:49.680] was several hundred pages long and it [00:16:52.240] was celebrated by everybody and it set [00:16:54.880] up a commission very similar to the [00:16:56.800] Kennedy assassination which here we are [00:17:00.160] you know 60 plus years later and still [00:17:02.720] you know they’re telling us this single [00:17:04.319] bullet [00:17:05.360] >> that that was and you’re you’re a gunman [00:17:07.280] that they found on a gurnie that was [00:17:09.280] basically unscratched [00:17:11.120] >> you know an hour and a half after the [00:17:12.720] assassination in in the hospital at [00:17:15.360] Lakeland [00:17:16.000] >> after going through two bodies [00:17:17.199] >> after two bodies. and bone and [00:17:18.720] everything else and it doesn’t it just [00:17:20.720] but anyway [00:17:21.360] >> so but Schumer’s solution was we needed [00:17:24.000] a Warren commission to tell us the truth [00:17:26.720] about [00:17:27.120] >> to who can decide and that basically [00:17:29.440] would just cover it up and I trust [00:17:31.600] America [00:17:32.080] >> why would of course of course there’s [00:17:35.520] but why would Chuck Schumer do that like [00:17:38.720] what’s his motive do you have any idea [00:17:40.640] >> I think his staffers drew up the bill [00:17:42.720] and I think honestly in their in their [00:17:45.440] mind they probably thought it was the [00:17:47.360] right thing. But here’s my thing about [00:17:48.880] staffers. Everybody wants to talk about [00:17:51.200] sta, you know, the the the the swamp, [00:17:54.000] and I always go through this. A swamp is [00:17:55.679] something pretty cool. God created a [00:17:57.520] swamp. I I grew up frog gigging and [00:17:59.840] fishing around swamps. They’re pretty [00:18:02.080] cool. They’re they attract animals for [00:18:03.840] good reason. [00:18:04.960] >> And um uh and so Washington DC is not is [00:18:09.600] is not a a swamp. It is a sewer. It is a [00:18:12.559] man-made creation. Now, figure this. [00:18:14.880] You’ve got a staffer. Um, and [00:18:17.520] Republicans were supposed to be less [00:18:19.360] government. I look at these st we get [00:18:22.320] these pictures made every year, every [00:18:24.240] couple years. I don’t know why. I’ve [00:18:25.840] never seen the picture. I’m not going to [00:18:27.120] hang it up my dad gum office of your [00:18:28.799] committee, you know, and all the people [00:18:30.400] on the committee and then all the [00:18:31.760] staffers behind it. I counted one time [00:18:33.919] on ours, I think it was close in one of [00:18:35.919] my committees, close to 50 people and I [00:18:38.240] guess the Democrats would get 49 people. [00:18:40.720] You know, we’re supposed to be less [00:18:42.160] government. So you have a staffer say [00:18:44.480] that contra that is and the committees [00:18:46.480] are just too big. And too many of these [00:18:48.480] chairman the biggest mistake they make [00:18:50.240] is we’re going to be different. We’re [00:18:51.600] going to be different. And what do they [00:18:52.720] do? They keep almost every dadum staffer [00:18:55.600] and the staffer is already plugged in [00:18:57.280] with the lobbyist with the K Street [00:18:58.799] crowd. And they’re the ones probably [00:19:00.640] getting a little trip somewhere, maybe [00:19:02.400] going out for a steak dinner, going out [00:19:04.080] for drinks, and they’re compromised. And [00:19:06.720] so how many I can’t tell you how many [00:19:08.880] times I’ve seen a good bill become a [00:19:11.760] study bill. [00:19:13.039] >> I completely agree except in most cases [00:19:15.679] it’s like obvious why industry would [00:19:19.280] want to subvert the legislation like [00:19:21.520] they don’t want the regulation. They [00:19:23.440] don’t want competition. You know there [00:19:26.080] are a lot of different obvious reasons [00:19:27.520] and you sort of see how the staffs are [00:19:29.039] paid off. I get it. [00:19:30.400] >> But UFOs like is there a UFO lobby? Like [00:19:34.400] who wants that? Who’s paying for that? [00:19:35.760] >> I think and why? [00:19:36.799] >> I think you’ve got major technology [00:19:38.880] corporations, um, a aeronautics, um, [00:19:43.440] some of our missile defense people, for [00:19:45.760] some reason, they do not want this [00:19:47.760] released. [00:19:48.559] >> That’s very weird because whatever is [00:19:50.880] going on is clearly or would seem to be [00:19:53.120] a threat to them. [00:19:54.080] >> Well, look at the You [00:19:55.120] >> don’t control your airspace, which we [00:19:56.880] don’t, right? [00:19:57.840] >> Why is that not a problem for Rathon? [00:20:00.400] >> Look at the financial disclosure of the [00:20:02.240] people that always fight me on these [00:20:03.840] bills. [00:20:05.120] That’s what I would tell you to do. [00:20:06.720] >> And if we were to do that, I can think [00:20:08.960] of one. [00:20:09.679] >> You see the names of a couple those with [00:20:12.080] those a couple of those corporations. [00:20:13.679] >> So, it’s defense contractors are the [00:20:15.919] bottom line is I think what you’re [00:20:18.080] saying is that the defense contractors [00:20:19.679] for some reason we can only speculate [00:20:21.679] don’t want this information disclosed. [00:20:23.840] >> That’s correct. [00:20:25.760] >> Well, that’s a very powerful lobby. Of [00:20:27.520] course, [00:20:28.000] >> it’s one of the most powerful ones. [00:20:29.440] That’s why we’re That’s why we’re um [00:20:31.679] sending $600milliontoUkraineandthe[00:20:34.559]uhnationaldefenseauthorizwhichI[00:20:36.400]did{n}^{\prime }tvotefor.UmIwantedtogiveour[00:20:39.360]militarymoremoney,militaryfighting[00:20:41.200]menmoremoney,butIdid{n}^{\prime }twantto[00:20:42.880]givethewarpimpsanymorereasonto[00:20:45.200]Ukraineoranyoftheseotherwarsw{e}^{\prime }re[00:20:47.120]in.[00:20:47.520]>>No.Andtheinterestingaboutthe$600 [00:20:49.440] million, [00:20:51.039] uh, I was told by our leadership and in [00:20:54.320] in a in a conference that the president [00:20:56.400] had requested that and then I talked to [00:20:58.880] the White House and guess what? The [00:21:00.799] president had not requested that. [00:21:02.400] >> Right. That’s right. 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}slikewhy[00:22:53.840]wouldRathonbesoopposedtothe[00:22:55.919]disclosureofthisinformation?So,what[00:22:58.320]exactlyhapwherearewewith[00:23:00.240]disclosure?[00:23:00.960]>>Alotofpeoplethinkthattherethat[00:23:02.559]thesefolksaretheonesthathavethe[00:23:04.000]materialfromwhatevercraftorwhatever[00:23:06.640]itis.Tha{t}^{\prime }swhat{I}^{\prime }vebeentoldby[00:23:08.559]peopleingovernmentinthatareinthe[00:23:11.919]know.And{I}^{\prime }ve,youknow,i{t}^{\prime }sfunny.It[00:23:15.360]waslikeum[00:23:16.799]>>thesecompanieshavebenefitedfrom[00:23:18.240]technologyfromwhateverthesethings[00:23:20.080]are.[00:23:20.400]>>Apparently,tha{t}^{\prime }swhatthe{y}^{\prime }retelling[00:23:21.520]me.Yeah.[00:23:22.799]>>Andinformpeople,notjustpeople[00:23:24.720]>>No,notjustsomeguyonthestreet.And[00:23:26.320]i{t}^{\prime }sfunny.I^{\prime }ve{I}^{\prime }vehadaumthedeep[00:23:29.440]throatmoment,youknow,whereNixonum[00:23:32.880]wasoverthrownandandsomebodycomesup[00:23:35.360]tomeinthehallwayinacrowded[00:23:37.440]hallway.UhsomebodywhoIwouldbe[00:23:40.640]considerafriendandsaid,"Burchett,[00:23:42.240]man,youreallydo{n}^{\prime }tneedtobedoing[00:23:44.000]thisstuff,do{n}^{\prime }tyou,man?Yo{u}^{\prime }re[00:23:45.200]kickingahornet{s}^{\prime }snestonthisthing,[00:23:47.200]youknow,[00:23:47.600]>>ontheUFOstuff."[00:23:48.559]>>Yeah.Oh,yeah.Oh,yeah.Oh,yeah.And[00:23:51.360]um{I}^{\prime }vehadthemtrytouseitagainst[00:23:54.000]meincampaignsandthings,butyou[00:23:56.320]know,theydo{n}^{\prime }twedo{n}^{\prime }teverraise[00:23:57.760]enoughmoneytotomatteranyway.[00:23:59.760]>>Useagainstyouincampaigns.[00:24:01.360]>>Yeah.Andthewhispercampaignorthey[00:24:03.440]putitoutontheinternet.Burchet{s}^{\prime }s,[00:24:05.280]youknow,allhecaresaboutisthis.[00:24:07.039]No,Ijustcareaboutwher{e}^{\prime }sthetens[00:24:08.960]ofmillionsofdollarsgoing.Ihavea[00:24:10.640]righttoknow.[00:24:11.440]>>Well,likethisisthebiggeststoryin[00:24:13.840]ourinhumanhistory,Iwouldthink.I[00:24:16.320]mean,likewhatisthat?[00:24:17.440]>>Arewealone?Yeah,[00:24:19.360]>>clearlynot.Andsoyo{u}^{\prime }resatisfied,[00:24:21.360]justtogettobasicsherequickly,[00:24:23.120]yo{u}^{\prime }resatisfiedthatwhateverw{e}^{\prime }re[00:24:25.120]seeingintheskiesandhavesinceat[00:24:26.640]leasttheSecondWorldWar,sinceat[00:24:29.120]leastthedevelopmentofnuclear[00:24:30.640]weapons,[00:24:31.440]>>Yeah.[00:24:32.080]>>sinceHiroshima,whateverthatisisnot[00:24:35.440]foreignmilitary.[00:24:36.799]>>No,cuzherehereitis.Ifitwas[00:24:39.120]Russian,Imean,honestly,Putinwith[00:24:41.679]hisego,hewouldridebarechesteddown[00:24:44.240]PennsylvaniaAvenue,getoutofUFO,you[00:24:47.039]know,wrestlea[00:24:49.520]abearonthefrontporchoftheofthe[00:24:52.080]WhiteHouseandgetbackinhisunifor.[00:24:53.520]Imean,wehewould{n}^{\prime }tbeboggeddownin[00:24:54.960]Ukraine.IfitwasChina,theywouldown[00:24:57.120]us.Theytheyclearlypartiallyownus[00:24:59.440]now.Man,ifitwasAmerica,you[00:25:01.840]would{n}^{\prime }tseeTrumpstandingonauman[00:25:04.400]aircraftcarrierandaajetfliesby[00:25:07.760]andbreaksthesoundbarrierand[00:25:08.799]everybodyfreaksthinkstha{t}^{\prime 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}vetalkedtothe[00:25:47.840]bestpilotsintheworldthatareours.[00:25:50.080]Someofthemnotallofthem.Andthat[00:25:52.400]havetoldmeImeanoneguyIrememberI[00:25:54.400]wasattheCapitolHillClub.Itwas[00:25:55.600]justanunusualencounter.oraguy[00:25:57.279]spoketoagroupandandhefollowedme[00:25:59.679]outandsaid,"Youknow,Timor[00:26:02.240]congressmanorwhatever."Hesaid,he[00:26:03.840]said,"Thatthingwas14ft."Andhe[00:26:05.600]wentlikethisfrommycanopy.AndI[00:26:07.840]thoughttomyself,"Whydid{n}^{\prime }thesay[00:26:09.840]15?Whydid{n}^{\prime }thesay20?"Buthesaid[00:26:11.760]14.Andthenumhejusthesaidthis[00:26:15.600]thing,"Itwas{n}^{\prime }tours."Hesaid,"I[00:26:17.679]do{n}^{\prime }tknowwhatitwas,butitwas{n}^{\prime }t[00:26:18.960]ours."Andtha{t}^{\prime }sallhesaid.AndIhad[00:26:21.760]averyhighrankingmemberoftheNavy[00:26:24.880]describesomeunderwaterexperiences[00:26:28.240]the{y}^{\prime }dhadwithsomethingthatwasdoing[00:26:30.320]200m.Bestthingwegotisprobably40[00:26:32.880]>>wasdoing200mphunderwater[00:26:34.799]>>underwaterbigasafootballfieldand[00:26:36.960]tha{t}^{\prime }snofish.[00:26:39.039]>>Soisitpossiblegivenourcurrent[00:26:42.000]understandingofphysicsforany[00:26:43.600]man-mademachinetogoanywherenear200[00:26:45.520]mphunderwater?[00:26:46.720]>>Notwithourtechnology.No.Thebestwe[00:26:48.880]haveisprobablyintheinthehigh30s.[00:26:51.520]Andhewasconvertingit,ofcourse,[00:26:52.960]knotsiswhatthetheNavyguyswould[00:26:54.880]do.Butther{e}^{\prime }snothing.[00:26:55.840]>>IfIfirea3006oranyhighcaliber[00:26:58.799]rifleunderwater,itdoes{n}^{\prime }tgo200[00:27:00.559]milesanhour.IcanIcanprobably[00:27:02.480]catchitinthelengthofaswimming[00:27:04.320]poolorso.[00:27:05.840]>>Yeah.Oritjustfallsdown.[00:27:07.679]>>Yeah.Tha{t}^{\prime }swhat{I}^{\prime }msaying.Ii{t}^{\prime }s[00:27:08.799]like[00:27:09.360]>>sow{e}^{\prime }vegotuandthiswasthiswas[00:27:12.400]describedtomeinareasandIwas[00:27:14.640]quotedonsomeIwasjustquotallIdo[00:27:16.640]isquotepeoplethatarethatarethat[00:27:18.640]haveknowledgebutthiswasonethatwas[00:27:20.640]umhewastalkingabouttherewerefive[00:27:23.440]orsixIthinkdeepwaterareasofthe[00:27:26.159]oceanyo{u}^{\prime }vetraveledalotIhavenot[00:27:29.679]umther{e}^{\prime }snotalotofdeepwaterareas[00:27:32.000]aroundaroundEastTennesseeatFort[00:27:34.240]LdenLakeoranythingbutyouthe{y}^{\prime }re[00:27:36.080]talkingmilesdeepandofthatyo{u}^{\prime }ve[00:27:38.640]heardthisbefore.Weknowmoreabout[00:27:39.919]thesurfaceofthemoonthanwedothe[00:27:41.200]surfaceoftheocean.Andhesaid,[00:27:42.559]"Theseareareaswhereweseeahigh[00:27:44.159]propensityoftheseUFOs."Andtherewas[00:27:46.960]acasewhereumitwasfairlywell[00:27:49.360]documented.Umtheyuhuhhadamultiple[00:27:54.720]sightings.Theyweredoingamaneuvers[00:27:57.360]andhadthetheshipsorboats,whatever[00:27:59.120]youwanttocallthem,outthere.I^{\prime }m[00:28:00.000]notaNavyguy.Andumandtherewasthe[00:28:03.840]sightingintheairandthesethepilots[00:28:07.760]radioedbackandsaid,"Hey,isthere[00:28:09.679]somethinggoingon?Isthereanother[00:28:10.960]operation?Wegotsomesecrettechnology[00:28:13.440]stuffw{e}^{\prime }reworkingon."Theysaid,"We[00:28:15.039]do{n}^{\prime }thaveany."Andthey,youknow,[00:28:16.399]Pentagon,nobodynobodyknewabout[00:28:18.240]anything.Andtheypulleditbackand[00:28:21.039]thenumtheypulledeverythingback,[00:28:22.799]scrubbedthemission.Andthenthenext[00:28:24.960]dayalltheirinternettraffichadbeen[00:28:27.600]scrubbed.Butthisguywaskindofa[00:28:29.440]wonkandh{e}^{\prime }dmadecopiesofit.Butmy,[00:28:32.720]youknow,thepointIhavethereiswhy[00:28:35.440]wouldwerisk[00:28:37.840]multi-milliondollarapparatusandwhy[00:28:41.039]wouldweputsomethingintheairaround[00:28:44.080]ourbestpilotsthatcouldhaveacrash[00:28:46.000]becausetheseguysaretalkingabout[00:28:47.520]ther{e}^{\prime }sactually,youknow,the{y}^{\prime }vehave[00:28:49.360]comeclosetocollisions.Whywouldthey[00:28:51.200]dothat?Theywouldnotdothat.That[00:28:52.799]wouldbestupid.Imean,ther{e}^{\prime }seven[00:28:54.720]even,youknow,Ialwayssaymilitary[00:28:56.399]intelligenceawholelotlike[00:28:57.520]congressionalethics.Ido{n}^{\prime }tthinkit[00:28:59.039]reallyexistsmuchanymore,[00:29:00.960]>>butumanyway,i{t}^{\prime }sumIjustdo{n}^{\prime }t[00:29:05.360]thinkthatw{e}^{\prime }dberiskingthat.So,[00:29:06.799]thatthattha{t}^{\prime }smyproofthati{t}^{\prime }snot[00:29:08.559]ours.[00:29:09.279]>>So,howmanyuhmilitarypersonnelhave[00:29:11.200]youspokentoabouttheirpersonal[00:29:13.840]experienceswiththesethings?I^{\prime }dsay,[00:29:17.200]well,Ido{n}^{\prime }tknow,eightornine,10[00:29:19.360]maybe,youknow,butIhavetobereal[00:29:21.679]carefulbecause{I}^{\prime }m{I}^{\prime }mclearlysomebody[00:29:24.640]outthereand{I}^{\prime }mnotbackingdownon[00:29:26.080]it.I^{\prime }mnotashamedofitoranything,[00:29:27.600]butIdo{n}^{\prime }t[00:29:28.159]>>Youhavenoreasontobeashamedofit.[00:29:29.919]Whywouldyoubeashamedofit?[00:29:30.880]>>Well,tha{t}^{\prime }swhattheytrytodoisthey[00:29:32.159]trytoshamepeople.[00:29:33.120]>>Oh,areyouareyouareyouhiding[00:29:34.880]relevantsecretsfromtheAmerican[00:29:36.159]public?Ido{n}^{\prime }tthinkyouare.[00:29:37.279]>>No,but[00:29:38.240]>>whyare{n}^{\prime }ttheyashamed?Well,Ihaveto[00:29:39.919]becarefulaboutthewhiteflags,the[00:29:42.000]stufftheybringstuffbringpeople[00:29:43.679]bringmetha{t}^{\prime }snotreal.[00:29:45.600]>>Well,thattha{t}^{\prime }stha{t}^{\prime }swhyw{e}^{\prime }re[00:29:47.039]talkingtoyou.[00:29:47.679]>>Yeah.Well,tha{t}^{\prime }s[00:29:48.559]>>I^{\prime }vehadalotofpeoplecometomewith[00:29:49.760]stufflikethat.[00:29:50.480]>>Yeah.And{I}^{\prime }vegotthesepicturesandI[00:29:52.159]wanttoshowyouthis.I^{\prime }vegotthis,[00:29:54.000]youknow,I^{\prime }malwaysafraid{I}^{\prime }mgoingto[00:29:55.440]enduponainarefrigeratorupin[00:29:57.679]NorthCarolinaorafreezerinNorth[00:29:59.360]Carolinasomewhere,youknow,cuzII[00:30:02.080]do{n}^{\prime }t{I}^{\prime }mnotgoingupthereand[00:30:03.200]checkingoutsomegu{y}^{\prime }sfinesh{e}^{\prime }sgot.[00:30:05.279]Andyouknow,andI[00:30:07.200]>>Sowait,butdoyouthinkSoIthink[00:30:08.880]whatyo{u}^{\prime }resayingisthedisinformation[00:30:10.559]campaignrunbywhomever.Maybe[00:30:12.399]>>tha{t}^{\prime }sreal.[00:30:13.440]>>Well,i{t}^{\prime }sdefinitelyreal.Uh,andI[00:30:15.679]assumei{t}^{\prime }srunbytheUSgovernmentor[00:30:17.600]itssatellitesandthedefense[00:30:19.120]contractors,butpartofthewaythat[00:30:22.960]theydiscreditpeoplewhoareinterested[00:30:24.960]infindingoutwhatthisisisby[00:30:26.720]tellingthemfalsethingsandthen[00:30:29.279]>>theytriedtodestroytheircareers.[00:30:30.559]Theydidthattooneofourguys.Um,[00:30:32.240]oneofthetheveryfirstpersonuhthe[00:30:34.320]firsthearingwehad,ifyouremember,[00:30:36.080]some[00:30:37.600]weeklynewspaperreporterfoundoutthat[00:30:40.640]oneoftheguyssufferedfromPTSDfor[00:30:43.600]becauseofhismilitarycareer.Youknow[00:30:45.360]what?InTennessee,weembracedthat.My[00:30:48.000]daddyputonPeluinOkinawaandtothe[00:30:50.799]dayhedied,Ineverwokehimupover[00:30:52.399]thetopofhim.Ialwayswokehimupby[00:30:54.080]hisbigtoecuzhemighthavewokeupon[00:30:55.760]oneofthosedadgumislandsandpinned[00:30:57.279]meupagainstthewall.Andso,andwe[00:30:59.440]celebrateourourourheroesandbut[00:31:02.080]WashingtonDCjustdestroysthem.Andto[00:31:04.240]thinkthataweeklynewspaperfoundout[00:31:08.080]thisgu{y}^{\prime }smedicalhistory,whichisa[00:31:10.399]totalviolationofthelaw.Somebody[00:31:12.399]shouldgotojailforit,butnobody[00:31:13.919]did.Theytriedtodestroythisguy.And[00:31:16.240]tha{t}^{\prime }sandyouknow,tha{t}^{\prime }swhathappens[00:31:18.000]topeopleinWashingtonDC.Tha{t}^{\prime }swhat[00:31:19.679]happenstoourmilitaryheroeswhenthey[00:31:21.760]stepoutoflinebecauseofthethe[00:31:24.880]sewerordeepstateorwhateveryouwant[00:31:26.559]tocallit.Butthatthattha{t}^{\prime }swhat[00:31:28.240]theyandtha{t}^{\prime }swhyweneedweneedreal[00:31:30.480]whistleblowerprotectionforthem.[00:31:31.919]>>Well,Iagreewiththatcompletely.Um[00:31:33.760]whichwedo{n}^{\prime }thave.No.Andbytheway,[00:31:35.840]Iknowtwowhistleblowerswhoareliving[00:31:37.679]outsidethecountrycuztheyca{n}^{\prime }tcome[00:31:38.960]totheUnitedStates.[00:31:39.919]>>Sure.[00:31:40.640]>>And{I}^{\prime }llhavepeopleactually{I}^{\prime }vehad[00:31:42.240]peoplecallme.Onelastthing.I^{\prime }min[00:31:44.240]theLongworthbuilding.I{t}^{\prime }snosecret.[00:31:45.760]I{t}^{\prime }spublicrecord.But{I}^{\prime }vehadpeople[00:31:47.600]tha{t}^{\prime }llcallmeorsendamessagetome[00:31:50.080]andwanttocomebyandtheywo{n}^{\prime }tcome[00:31:52.240]inthatbuildingaskmeifIcancome[00:31:53.840]outside.I^{\prime }vehadpeoplecallmeand[00:31:56.480]wanttocometothehouseinEast[00:31:58.720]Tennesseeandandbecausetheydo{n}^{\prime }t[00:32:02.000]wanttocometoWashingtonDCandtalk[00:32:03.760]tome.Ther{e}^{\prime }saawellpublicized[00:32:07.200]televisionshowthatwasonforawhile[00:32:09.760]thatumIdid{n}^{\prime }tknowIdid{n}^{\prime }tknowthey[00:32:13.679]werecoming.ImeanItheysaidsome[00:32:15.279]peoplewantedtotalktomeanditwasa[00:32:16.720]atrustedfriendandIsaidsuresend[00:32:20.000]thembringthemuptocomeonuptoDC[00:32:22.080]andtheysaidwelltheydo{n}^{\prime }twantto[00:32:22.960]cometoDCandtheydrovefromwherever[00:32:26.399]tomyhouseinEastTennesseeona[00:32:28.240]Saturdayafternoonandthentheyput[00:32:30.720]somestuffonaonascreenthatwas[00:32:34.720]prettycompelling.Whatwasit?[00:32:37.279]>>Wasaircraftflyingit.Justcrazy[00:32:41.440]um[00:32:43.519]stuffthatweca{n}^{\prime }tdothatwouldturn[00:32:45.120]youormeintobasicallyacatch-up[00:32:46.799]package.Itwasnotuh[00:32:49.440]>>nohumanbeingcouldhandletheG.[00:32:51.039]>>No,notatourwellwiththetechnology[00:32:53.279]wehave,theGeForcewouldjusthave[00:32:55.200]justtornthemapart.Andyouknow,was[00:32:57.600]itwasitunmannedorwhatever?Ido{n}^{\prime }t[00:33:00.399]know.Buttheseguysandoneofthemwas[00:33:03.519]aumwelltheywerescientists.Several[00:33:06.320]ofthemwerescientistsandthere[00:33:08.720]>>theycametoseeyou.[00:33:09.519]>>Theycametoseeme.Yeah.AndIbecause[00:33:11.440]i{t}^{\prime }skindofu[00:33:13.200]>>Wait.Sowhatdoyoudowiththat[00:33:14.320]information?[00:33:15.600]>>Itrytotrytograspitwithinmyvery[00:33:19.519]smallbrainofandwhatamIsupposedto[00:33:22.159]dowiththat?IIaskGodallthetime,[00:33:24.399]whatdoyouwantmetodowiththis[00:33:25.440]stuff,Lord?Andrightnow{I}^{\prime }m{I}^{\prime }m{I}^{\prime }ve[00:33:28.000]justgottogetenoughdisclosure.I{I}^{\prime }[00:33:30.080]I^{\prime }vecometothe[00:33:32.320]realizationthatnothingisevergoing[00:33:34.159]tohappen,Tucker,untilwehave[00:33:35.760]somebodyintheWhiteHousethatsays[00:33:37.200]enoughisenoughandjustdisclosesit.[00:33:39.519]AndIhopePresidentTrump,youknow,I[00:33:42.000]havediscussionswithhimprivatelyand[00:33:43.679]othertimesthat{I}^{\prime }mnotum{I}^{\prime }vetalked[00:33:46.320]tohispeople,butatsomepointther{e}^{\prime }s[00:33:48.960]severalofus,Lunaandmyselfand[00:33:51.760]severalothersthatareconcernedabout[00:33:54.240]thisissueandwewantsomeanswers.[00:33:57.200]>>W{e}^{\prime }vegotnone.[00:33:58.240]>>W{e}^{\prime }vegotnone.zero,[00:33:59.519]>>right?Zero.So,youhavedefinitely[00:34:01.840]heardabouteightsleepbynow.People[00:34:04.559]aretalkingaboutthewell-rested[00:34:05.919]people,youknow,aretalkingaboutit.[00:34:07.600]I{t}^{\prime }sacompanywithonemission,improve[00:34:09.760]yoursleep,andischangingtheway[00:34:12.399]Americansgetagoodnigh{t}^{\prime }ssleep.And[00:34:14.240]trustme,theyneedit.So,wejust[00:34:16.079]receivedwordthattheirteamis[00:34:17.599]launchinganewproduct.I{t}^{\prime }scalledthe[00:34:19.839]Pod5.ThePod5isanoriginal,totally[00:34:22.960]innovativemattresscover,plusa[00:34:24.480]blanketthatusesprecisiontemperature[00:34:26.720]controltoregulateyourbod{y}^{\prime }ssleep[00:34:28.879]cyclesandgiveyoutheperfectnigh{t}^{\prime }s[00:34:30.560]sleep.Itrangesfrom55°forthecold[00:34:33.280]plungersamongyoutothe110°forthe[00:34:36.000]saunafanatics.Thatmeansnomatter[00:34:37.839]whatyouprefer,yo{u}^{\prime }recovered.Andthe[00:34:40.079]bottomlineisyousleepbetterbyupto[00:34:42.079]anhour.Itactuallyworks.ThePodalso[00:34:44.879]detectssnoringandadjustsyourbe{d}^{\prime }s[00:34:47.760]positiontoreduceorstopit.Whoa.[00:34:51.679]BelleagueredladiesacrossAmerica[00:34:53.440]rejoiceasone.Everyoneherecantell[00:34:55.919]youther{e}^{\prime }snobetterwaytobealert,[00:34:57.280]productive,andhappythanbygettinga[00:34:58.640]goodnigh{t}^{\prime }ssleep.Andeightsleepcan[00:35:00.240]help.Visit8.com/tucker.[00:35:03.599]Usethecodetuckertoget350bucksoff[00:35:06.640]yourpod5ultra.Ifyoudo{n}^{\prime }tlikeit,[00:35:08.320]justreturnitwithinamonth.But[00:35:10.480]yo{u}^{\prime }regoingtoloveit.[00:35:11.839]8sleep.com/tucker.[00:35:14.640]Whatisthat?[00:35:16.640]>>Ithinkthatisthesewer.Thatisthe[00:35:18.720]industrialwarcomplex.IthinkandI[00:35:20.800]statedthatintheinthecommittee.I[00:35:22.480]thinkpartofthethingtheydoisthey[00:35:24.160]outruntheclock.Theyoutruntheclock.[00:35:26.720]Theyyouknowumweeitherstumble,one[00:35:29.520]ofusgetsintroubleortheygetusin[00:35:31.200]troubleortheyloseortheymoveonto[00:35:33.040]anotherobject,youknow,anothershiny[00:35:35.359]objectsomewhereelse.WeAmericanswant[00:35:37.599]theirpizzasin30minutesorlessand[00:35:39.599]tha{t}^{\prime }saboutCongres{s}^{\prime }sattentionspan,[00:35:41.760]youknow,cuzw{e}^{\prime }realwaysononeand[00:35:44.000]theni{t}^{\prime }sthehotissueandthenthe[00:35:46.160]newscyclechanges.Twoweekslater[00:35:47.839]w{e}^{\prime }reontosomethingelse.Soyouguys[00:35:49.520]areoftenmembersofCongressareoften[00:35:51.599]uhbriefedinskiffs.Youknow,i{t}^{\prime }sa[00:35:54.480]securelocation.Thentheyimmediately[00:35:56.240]goandcallCNNandtellthem,youknow,[00:35:57.920]everyonewasattheButifamemberof[00:36:00.640]Congressreceivedquoteclassified[00:36:02.720]informationaboutUAPs,[00:36:05.119]andthenimmediatelyheldapress[00:36:06.320]conferenceandsaid,"Her{e}^{\prime }swhatIjust[00:36:07.680]heardandsaw,andyes,I^{\prime }mbreakingthe[00:36:10.880]law,butliketoughWhydo{n}^{\prime }tyou[00:36:12.720]dosomethingaboutit?"[00:36:13.839]>>Whatwouldhappen?[00:36:14.960]>>Ido{n}^{\prime }tknow.Theysaytheycanimprison[00:36:16.640]us,butIdo{n}^{\prime }t.They,youknow,tha{t}^{\prime }s[00:36:19.119]whatw{e}^{\prime }retoldatthebeginning.W{e}^{\prime }re[00:36:20.560]notevensupposedtodiscuss.Some[00:36:21.920]peoplewilltellyou,youca{n}^{\prime }teven[00:36:22.960]tellthemthatyo{u}^{\prime }vebeeninaskiff,[00:36:24.880]butthepressiswaitingforyouassoon[00:36:26.480]asyouwalkout.[00:36:27.119]>>Whotoldwhotoldwhosaysthat?[00:36:29.119]Leadershipofthepress.[00:36:30.000]>>Oh,yeah.Leadership.Yeah.Andthe{y}^{\prime }ll[00:36:31.359]Andyou{I}^{\prime }vebeeninaskiffbefore[00:36:32.880]wherethe{y}^{\prime }llsayanythingdiscussedin[00:36:34.960]here.Weremindyoui{t}^{\prime }spunishableby[00:36:36.880]law.Andyouknow,itcouldi{t}^{\prime }sa[00:36:38.880]felony.Buttheproblemyougetinthere[00:36:41.599]alotoftimesi{t}^{\prime }sthearroganceand[00:36:43.040]theliesthataretoldtous.They[00:36:45.040]contradict.Imean,IIthe{y}^{\prime }ll[00:36:47.599]contradictwhatanotherdepartmenthas[00:36:49.520]said.The{y}^{\prime }llsay,"Thisdoesthis[00:36:51.359]did{n}^{\prime }thappen.Thisdoes{n}^{\prime }texist."And[00:36:53.359]thenanotheronewillsay,"Thisisone[00:36:55.599]wedo{n}^{\prime }tknow,butweca{n}^{\prime }tfigureout.[00:36:57.760]Ther{e}^{\prime }sjustnoanswer.Itdefiesallof[00:37:00.320]ourreason."And[00:37:01.760]>>so,thesearethebriefersfromvarious[00:37:03.119]federalagenciesthatyo{u}^{\prime }retalking[00:37:04.320]>>andthe{y}^{\prime }regenerallyarrogant.You[00:37:05.440]know,thisonekidwithamanbun.I[00:37:07.040]alwaysrememberhim.Hewasuhvery[00:37:09.760]arrogant.AndthenIaskedhimabout[00:37:11.839]somespecificinstances.was,youknow,[00:37:13.359]therewasonewherewehadanuclearum[00:37:15.680]facilitysomethingBuzzdidandthe[00:37:17.920]actualfacilityshutdown.Itwas[00:37:19.760]famously[00:37:20.560]>>documentedandhe[00:37:22.079]>>intheDakotasIthink.[00:37:23.520]>>Yeah.Ica{n}^{\prime }trememberexactly.Ihave[00:37:25.520]toIhaveIreadIreadsomanyofthese[00:37:27.920]thingsbutandhesaidumIrememberhe[00:37:30.640]said[00:37:31.520]>>um[00:37:32.079]>>wehavenodatapointsonthat[00:37:34.560]>>andIthoughtandIsaiddudei{t}^{\prime }sin[00:37:37.119]allGoogleiti{t}^{\prime }severywhereandyouI[00:37:40.320]justIgetveryfrustratedTuckeralot[00:37:42.800]oftimesIwo{n}^{\prime }tIgotothethese[00:37:44.160]classifiedbriefsandpartofthereason[00:37:45.359]yougotoaclassifiedbriefingisto[00:37:47.040]getinformationwhich{I}^{\prime }msuretha{t}^{\prime }s[00:37:49.599]wherealotofthestocktradinggoeson[00:37:51.200]butbutIthinktheybringyouinand[00:37:54.079]tellyoustuffyoualreadyknew,soyou[00:37:56.560]ca{n}^{\prime }teventalkaboutit.Ithinki{t}^{\prime }sa[00:37:58.800]trap.Ido{n}^{\prime }tTha{t}^{\prime }swhyIdo{n}^{\prime }tgotoa[00:38:00.560]lotoftheclassifiedbriefingsbecause[00:38:02.480]again,Icanjustpickituponthe[00:38:04.240]streetrightafter[00:38:05.200]>>theCongressfundstheagenciesthatare[00:38:07.520]briefingyou.[00:38:08.320]>>Tha{t}^{\prime }scorrect.[00:38:09.280]>>So,youcouldsaytothemanbunkid,[00:38:12.079]youknow,son,Ipayyoursalary.Yeah.[00:38:14.160]>>So,maybeyou[00:38:15.119]>>Well,i{t}^{\prime }sduringtheBiden[00:38:16.160]administration,soIwasalittlebit[00:38:17.520]outof[00:38:18.480]>>Well,Imean,atthispoint,Republicans[00:38:19.839]controltheCongress,solike[00:38:21.359]>>allegedly[00:38:22.320]>>Ido{n}^{\prime }tunderstand.Ijust{I}^{\prime }mhonestly[00:38:25.599]baffledastowhyno[00:38:26.720]>>toomanyther{e}^{\prime }stoomany.Iti{t}^{\prime }si{t}^{\prime }s[00:38:28.480]crossesbothlines.Ithinkyouknow[00:38:30.240]thatthatmoneyrunsdeepandthey[00:38:32.640]contributealottoalotofpeople.[00:38:34.880]>>Sooftheissuesandsomearewellknown.[00:38:37.040]Iwo{n}^{\prime }tevenbringthemupherebut[00:38:38.400]the{y}^{\prime }reverywellnownumthathave[00:38:40.560]bipartisanconsensus.Youknowlikeboth[00:38:43.359]partiesagreeonthisissue.Youwould[00:38:45.520]sayUAPsareoneofthose?[00:38:47.040]>>Iwouldsaytheyare.ImeanAO{C}^{\prime }sin[00:38:50.000]there.Imeanthe{y}^{\prime }reallinthere.You[00:38:52.000]know,i{t}^{\prime }sjust[00:38:52.720]>>DoesAOC[00:38:54.640]showanyinterestinthistopic?[00:38:56.400]>>Shedoes.Shedoes.Ithink,youknow,[00:38:58.960]sh{e}^{\prime }sconcernedlikeeverybodyelse.[00:39:00.560]Wher{e}^{\prime }swherethetensofmillionsof[00:39:02.079]dollarsgoing?And{I}^{\prime }msureshecould[00:39:04.000]thinkabout[00:39:04.320]>>Well,whatthehellarethesethings?[00:39:05.520]Tha{t}^{\prime }slikeanevendeeperconcern.[00:39:07.119]>>Yeah.[00:39:07.760]>>Themone{y}^{\prime }sfake.Wejustmakeit.[00:39:09.280]>>Yeah.Wejustprintit.Yeah.[00:39:10.640]>>AndbutitWell,w{e}^{\prime }vehad,youknow,[00:39:12.720]whatarethey?W{e}^{\prime }vehadsworntestimony[00:39:15.520]wherethe{y}^{\prime }lltellyou,the{y}^{\prime }llsay,um,[00:39:18.480]yeah,I^{\prime }veseenBeings.Ther{e}^{\prime }samovie[00:39:20.240]comingoutand[00:39:21.440]>>andholdon.Andthetestimonysaysthis[00:39:23.760]issworntestimony.[00:39:24.960]>>Sworntestimony.The{y}^{\prime }vegotthe{y}^{\prime }veuh[00:39:27.920]therebeingsandther{e}^{\prime }sther{e}^{\prime }su[00:39:32.480]saucersorsomecraftorsomething.But[00:39:34.800]ther{e}^{\prime }samoviecomingoutprettysoon[00:39:36.960]ifi{t}^{\prime }severallowedtocomeout.Iwas[00:39:38.880]initalittlebit.Andumandyouhave[00:39:42.640]formermembersoftheCIA.Youhave[00:39:44.640]othersthatpositivelysaytheywere[00:39:47.599]thereandtheyidentifiedthesethings.[00:39:50.400]Theydiagnosedthemandtheysawthem.[00:39:53.040]Theysawthecraft.Andyouknow,there[00:39:55.839]ther{e}^{\prime }senoughpeopleouttheresaying[00:39:57.359]it,butthe{y}^{\prime }rejustsosuppressed.And[00:40:00.240]themediamovesonsofastonsomething.[00:40:02.960]Andyouknow,I^{\prime }vebeenonsomanyof[00:40:04.800]theseinterviewsandthe{y}^{\prime }replayingthe[00:40:07.040]thethemefromumumonesomecrazyTV[00:40:11.440]showorsomethingbeforeIcomeon,you[00:40:13.040]know,andthe{y}^{\prime }rejustmakingajokeout[00:40:14.400]ofitandIgetit.Peoplewanttolaugh[00:40:16.720]aboutit.[00:40:17.280]>>Ido{n}^{\prime }tgetitatall.[00:40:18.640]>>Yeah.Imean,IIgetthefact[00:40:20.160]>>seemslikeanabsolutelyIsee[00:40:22.240]>>theyjustwanttohumiliatemeandI[00:40:24.000]do{n}^{\prime }t[00:40:24.160]>>I{t}^{\prime }sadeadlyserioustopicobjectively[00:40:26.720]speaking.Andif[00:40:27.680]>>i{t}^{\prime }sanationaldefenseissue,i{t}^{\prime }s[00:40:29.359]everything.I{t}^{\prime }severything.Imean,[00:40:31.359]i{t}^{\prime }snotanational,i{t}^{\prime }saworld[00:40:32.640]defenseissue.[00:40:33.440]>>I{t}^{\prime }salotmoreseriousthanBlackLives[00:40:34.880]Matteroranyoftheothernonsensethat[00:40:36.800]w{e}^{\prime }ve,youknow,becomeobsessedwith[00:40:38.320]overthepastgeneration.So,um,yeah,[00:40:41.520]ther{e}^{\prime }sImean,thattellsyouright[00:40:44.480]theretha{t}^{\prime }spartofananoperation[00:40:47.680]designedtodiscreditpeoplewhoask[00:40:49.359]questions,right?[00:40:50.079]>>Yeah.And{I}^{\prime }vehad{I}^{\prime }vehadmilitary[00:40:52.000]personnelcallmeandtellmethat[00:40:55.119]the{y}^{\prime }vethe{y}^{\prime }vechasedthesethings.[00:40:57.359]The{y}^{\prime }vebeeninthewater.Ihadoneguy[00:40:59.920]tellmeastory.Hewasanofficerand[00:41:02.160]hewasinthewaterfishingoffumI[00:41:06.560]thinkitwasontheeastcoastandthis[00:41:09.680]hugecraftflewovertheflewoverthem[00:41:13.119]andthentheseseveraljetswereflying[00:41:16.640]tryingtokeepupwithitandhe[00:41:18.160]identifiedthejetscuzhewasobviously[00:41:20.000]anAirForceofficerandumandhesaid[00:41:23.839]lookIIjustwantyoutocontinueon[00:41:26.319]thisthingyo{u}^{\prime }renotalotofpeople[00:41:28.800]haveseenstuffandhesaid,"Ihave."[00:41:31.200]Andyouknow,andImean,hehada[00:41:33.520]distinguishedcareer,butitjust[00:41:36.480]continuesonandonandonanditgets,[00:41:40.240]youknow,wegetpattedontheheadand[00:41:42.319]say,"Okay,youcanhaveanotherhearing[00:41:44.240]andthenwedoit."Butbutuntil[00:41:46.560]somebodyintheWhiteHousesays[00:41:48.079]discloseorsomebodywalksoutofoneof[00:41:50.560]theselabswithsomethingandisumand[00:41:54.480]showsitandputsitonYouTubebefore[00:41:56.240]h{e}^{\prime }sallowedtocommitsuicide.UmI[00:41:59.119]thinkyo{u}^{\prime }regoingtotha{t}^{\prime }stheonly[00:42:01.119]wayw{e}^{\prime }regoingtogettothebottomof[00:42:02.240]itcuzitwillneveri{t}^{\prime }ssodeepthe[00:42:04.880]layersoftheonionsoronionissodeep[00:42:07.200]youjustkeeppeelingitoffandi{t}^{\prime }s[00:42:08.800]justadifferentpersonadifferent[00:42:10.240]story.Yougooverhereandandandyou[00:42:14.160]know[00:42:15.119]thenaivityofofofCongress.Youhave[00:42:17.839]memberstellingme,"Well,le{t}^{\prime }sjust[00:42:19.040]getale{t}^{\prime }sgooverhereandgeta,you[00:42:21.040]know,w{e}^{\prime }llgetatouroftheoftheof[00:42:23.280]whereyouthinkthesethingsare."I[00:42:24.720]say,"Dude,onceweannouncethat,you[00:42:27.040]know,theU-Haulvansarealreadybeen[00:42:28.640]thereandgone."Youknow,i{t}^{\prime }si{t}^{\prime }snot[00:42:30.640]i{t}^{\prime }snotthatway.I{t}^{\prime }snotgoingto[00:42:32.319]workthatway.W{e}^{\prime }reCongressisnot[00:42:34.240]goingtowalkintherewithallits[00:42:35.599]magnificenceandarroganceandfind[00:42:38.400]something.SimplySafestopscrime[00:42:41.280]beforeithappens,whichisthewayto[00:42:43.440]stopit.Mostsecuritysystemswork[00:42:45.119]backwards.Theyreacttoabreak-in.[00:42:47.599]Theyalerttheauthoritiesonce[00:42:48.800]someon{e}^{\prime }salreadyinyourhouse.Woo![00:42:51.280]Youdo{n}^{\prime }twantsomeoneinyourhousein[00:42:52.560]thefirstplace.Youwanttodeterthat.[00:42:54.800]Tha{t}^{\prime }swhyyougetSimplySafe.AI[00:42:56.800]poweredcamerasdetectthreatswhile[00:42:58.319]the{y}^{\prime }restilloutsideyourhomeandthen[00:43:00.240]alertrealsecurityagentsbefore[00:43:02.000]anythingelsehappens.Thoseagentstake[00:43:04.000]actionrightaway.Confrontthe[00:43:05.359]intruder,letthemknowthe{y}^{\prime }rebeing[00:43:06.800]watchedoncamera,callthecops,sound[00:43:09.200]asiren,triggeringaspotlight,[00:43:11.520]whateverittakestogetthemoutof[00:43:12.720]there.Thatisactualsecurity.Simply[00:43:15.280]Saf{e}^{\prime }smonitoringagentshaveyourback[00:43:17.040]evenwhenyo{u}^{\prime }renotathome.Waitfor[00:43:19.440]someonetobreakininahomeinvasion.[00:43:21.359]Yeah,nothanks.WetrustSimplySafe.[00:43:24.160]Whywilltherearenolong-term[00:43:25.359]contractsorhiddenfees?I{t}^{\prime }sbeen[00:43:27.359]namedbesthomesecuritysystemfor5[00:43:29.119]yearsrunning.Andthereisa60-day[00:43:30.640]moneybackguarantee.Setupissuper[00:43:32.480]easy.Theappissimpletouse.The[00:43:34.720]monitoringisreliable.Realpeaceof[00:43:36.880]mindwhetheryo{u}^{\prime }reathomeornot.And[00:43:39.440]rightnowyoucansave50[00:43:41.119]simplysafehomesecuritysystemat[00:43:43.119]simplysafe.com/tucker.[00:43:45.680]Simplysafesimplysafe.com/tucker.[00:43:49.760]Thereisnosafelikesimplysafe.If[00:43:52.400]thepthepublicisbeingliedtobythe[00:43:55.119]government,ifther{e}^{\prime }sa,youknow,[00:43:57.520]continuousongoingpubliclyfunded[00:44:00.319]campaigntolietotheAmericanpublic[00:44:02.480]byitsowngovernment,thatis[00:44:05.200]justificationforoverthrowingthe[00:44:06.720]government.Tha{t}^{\prime }smyopinion.[00:44:09.280]Theyca{n}^{\prime }tdothatinademocracy[00:44:10.960]becauseweownthegovernment.They[00:44:12.240]do{n}^{\prime }t.Andsothataloneleavingaside[00:44:16.160]therealityofUAPs[00:44:18.960]is,youknow,i{t}^{\prime }senoughforImean[00:44:22.160]whatwhyisitsohardforsomebodyin[00:44:25.599]authorityeitherintheWhiteHouseor[00:44:27.040]incongressionalleadershiptosaywe[00:44:29.760]wantthisinformationandwewantitby[00:44:31.359]thecloseofbusinesstodayorelse[00:44:33.359]yo{u}^{\prime }refiredorw{e}^{\prime }regoingtosend[00:44:34.800]soldiersinandgettheinformation.II[00:44:36.560]do{n}^{\prime }tWhyisthathard?Ijustdo{n}^{\prime }t[00:44:38.079]thinki{t}^{\prime }sprofitableforthem.Ithink[00:44:39.920]ther{e}^{\prime }stoomuchmoney[00:44:42.160]anditgoestoodeepandyouhavealot[00:44:45.680]ofsoldiers.The{y}^{\prime }renotliterally[00:44:47.839]soldierbutpeoplejustfolloworders[00:44:50.319]andtheythinkandtheysaidi{t}^{\prime }s[00:44:51.760]nationalsecurity.Theythinki{t}^{\prime }s[00:44:53.200]nationalsecurity.[00:44:55.599]>>Soitsoundslikeyouhavenoconfidence[00:44:58.960]thatthisstuf{f}^{\prime }sgoingtoemerge.[00:45:00.560]>>No,Ihavezeroconfidenceonthisside[00:45:02.880]ofwhenIgetwhenIleavethisearth.[00:45:06.000]I^{\prime }llprobably{I}^{\prime }llknowthen.But[00:45:07.680]>>youwillinstantly[00:45:08.880]>>instantly.ButIdo{n}^{\prime }tIdo{n}^{\prime }thaveany[00:45:11.119]confidenceinanybodyinWashington[00:45:14.079]currently.IhaveconfidenceinTrump.I[00:45:16.480]reallydo.Ithinkifh{e}^{\prime }sifwecan[00:45:19.760]talktohimseriouslyaboutthisuhfor[00:45:22.800]ashortamountoftime,Ithinkh{e}^{\prime }ll[00:45:24.560]justtellhimtojamit.W{e}^{\prime }regoingto[00:45:27.040]doit.[00:45:27.440]>>Well,Imean,wehad,youknow,these[00:45:30.160]sightingslastyearoverNewJersey,[00:45:32.720]overthethewholemidmidEastCoast.[00:45:35.760]umthattheentirecountrysawandthey[00:45:38.640]wereonvideoandweweregoingtofind[00:45:40.960]outwhatthosewereandthenitwaslike[00:45:42.240]nahi{t}^{\prime }stotallywedo{n}^{\prime }tneedtoknow[00:45:43.680]whatthatwhatwasthat?[00:45:45.599]>>WellIIIstillthinkitwasaitwas[00:45:48.079]partofChineseuminfluence.Ithink[00:45:50.960]whentheyflewtheballoonoverthey[00:45:52.800]theywantedtoitwas50sor60s[00:45:55.359]technology.Theydid{n}^{\prime }thaveanything.[00:45:57.280]Theywere{n}^{\prime }ttheyareImeantheygot[00:45:59.119]enoughspiesonthegroundinevery[00:46:00.880]universityandeverythinktankand[00:46:02.960]everyumuhnationallabwhateverthey[00:46:06.640]gotthemtherebuttheyumtheywanted[00:46:08.960]toseewhatourresponsewas.Theyum[00:46:11.280]theysawourpoliticalresponsewhich[00:46:13.040]waszero,ourmilitaryresponsewhich[00:46:16.000]waszeroandourpressresponseandthe[00:46:18.720]onlythingwasthepeoplewereoutraged[00:46:20.319]aboutityouknowandtheyshotitdown[00:46:21.839]offthecoastofMyrtleBeach.So,you[00:46:24.640]thinkthedrones,theso-calleddrones[00:46:26.960]overNewJerseylastfallwereaChinese[00:46:31.760]operation?[00:46:32.480]>>Somethingorsomethingverysimilar,[00:46:34.160]somebodyexperimentingtoseewhatour[00:46:36.079]responsewouldbe.Because,youknow,[00:46:37.839]youcouldyouflyanairplaneoverthe[00:46:39.839]countryandandsomebod{y}^{\prime }sgoingtopick[00:46:41.520]itup.Butyouflyadrone,theycould[00:46:44.160]havesmallnukes,couldhavebeena[00:46:46.160]biologicalagent.AndandIthinknow[00:46:48.720]theyknowtheycoulddothat.Atleast[00:46:50.319]underBiden,theycould.Theyca{n}^{\prime }tdo[00:46:52.079]itunderTrump.Soifthatwasthe[00:46:53.599]Chinesewhodidthat[00:46:55.920]umandtheUSgovernmentdidnothingand[00:46:58.000]>>Ithinktheyhadcontractorsherethat[00:46:59.920]thatprovidedthemwiththat.Tha{t}^{\prime }s[00:47:01.680]tha{t}^{\prime }stha{t}^{\prime }smytheory.[00:47:05.760]>>WhatanyideaastowhytheUS[00:47:07.599]governmentwouldwanttokeepthat[00:47:08.560]secret?[00:47:10.000]>>Noidea.Eitherthen[00:47:12.880]thecurrentadministrationdoes{n}^{\prime }tknow[00:47:15.119]becausethepeoplethatknewaregone.[00:47:20.880]Ijustthinkthepastadministrationwas[00:47:23.440]was[00:47:24.960]smokingmirrors.Imean,JoeBiden,if[00:47:27.440]youeverhadanyconversationswithhim,[00:47:29.200]Imean,itwasclearlyuhveryclueless[00:47:33.359]anditwasveryscary.Ifw{e}^{\prime }dhavebeen[00:47:34.880]inaposition,whoeverwascallinghis[00:47:36.560]shotsfromtheObamaadministration[00:47:39.760]umscaredmealot.Andofcourse,they[00:47:43.599]werethethepuppetmasters,Ifeel[00:47:45.280]like,underthisunderBiden.AndIfelt[00:47:47.359]likeheumandthepeoplearoundhim[00:47:50.160]just[00:47:52.079]ranamuck.Imean,yousawwiththe[00:47:54.240]>>ButwhynotIdo{n}^{\prime }tunderstandand{I}^{\prime }m[00:47:56.480]tryingtokeepmygrowingrageunder[00:47:58.319]control.Likewhynottell[00:47:59.599]>>Well,I^{\prime }moutraged.[00:48:00.560]>>Whynottellthepublicsomethingtrue[00:48:02.079]onceinawhile?Whytheconstantlying?[00:48:05.119]Cuzifyouifyo{u}^{\prime }reconstantlylying,[00:48:06.960]thenthenbydefinitionyo{u}^{\prime }reeviland[00:48:09.280]youdo{n}^{\prime }twanttothinkthatofyour[00:48:10.400]government,especiallypeopleyoulike[00:48:11.599]ingovernment.Butlikewhyca{n}^{\prime }tthe[00:48:13.680]publicknowanythingever?Doyouhave[00:48:15.440]anytheories?[00:48:16.640]>>Tradition,Ithink.[00:48:18.800]>>Tradition.Okay.[00:48:21.280]>>IIjustdo{n}^{\prime }tThemoreandmoreIknow[00:48:22.960]aboutgovernment,youknow,I{I}^{\prime }vebeen[00:48:26.079]inthisgiftbeforeand{I}^{\prime }vewalkedout[00:48:28.319]andIrememberonetimeIcalledmy[00:48:29.680]wife.Isaid,"Honey,gotothestore[00:48:31.839]andbuycannedgoods.Wew{e}^{\prime }re[00:48:34.800]completelywideopen."[00:48:37.280]Shesaid,"Allright,sweetie."Andum[00:48:39.839]>>So,whatdowegetforatrillion[00:48:40.880]dollarsayeartotheUSmilitary?Dowe[00:48:42.880]getanythinginreturn?Uh,wegotsome[00:48:46.000]enhancedstockportfolios.And{I}^{\prime }llgive[00:48:48.000]youagoodgreatexample.WhenJoeBiden[00:48:51.200]gaveourmilitaryorexcuseme,our[00:48:53.680]missiledefensesystem,Iyouknow,I[00:48:55.920]have{n}^{\prime }tvotedforapennyforUkraine.[00:48:57.440]I^{\prime }mproudofthat.I{t}^{\prime }snotmydadgum[00:48:59.280]war.I^{\prime }mnotsendingmy18-year-old[00:49:00.960]daughtertoaacountrythatmost[00:49:03.040]membersofCongresscould{n}^{\prime }tfindona[00:49:04.400]dadgumglobe.Yeah.Andumsoyouhave[00:49:08.640]umwegivethemourourmissiledefense[00:49:11.119]systemandthenwehavetoreplenish[00:49:13.359]ourswhichweshould.Weca{n}^{\prime }tbeleft[00:49:15.520]nakedwithoutanyofthatdefense.And[00:49:17.680]guesswhat?Someofthosecontractorswe[00:49:20.400]describedgetaamultimultibillion[00:49:23.599]withaBdollarnobidcontract.Andwho[00:49:26.400]doyouthinkhasboughtstockinthatin[00:49:28.400]thatcompany?MembersofCongresstwo[00:49:30.880]weekspriortothepresidentmakingthat[00:49:32.800]officialnotice.Andumandyouseeit[00:49:36.400]timeandtimeagain.Imean,doyou[00:49:37.520]honestlybelievemembersofCongressare[00:49:38.880]makingfiveandsix?Yo{u}^{\prime }vemetsomeof[00:49:40.319]theseguys.I[00:49:41.359]>>mean,theydo{n}^{\prime }ttheyca{n}^{\prime }tcomeinout[00:49:42.559]oftherain,someofthem.[00:49:43.760]>>Yeah.[00:49:44.240]>>I^{\prime }mguiltyofthataswell.Butthe{y}^{\prime }re[00:49:46.079]makingfiveand600[00:49:47.760]>>Yeah.Alotofreallydamaged[00:49:49.359]>>returnontheirfiveand600[00:49:52.559]theirinvestment.Andandwarisgreat[00:49:55.599]forbusiness.I{t}^{\prime }sgreatforI{t}^{\prime }sgreat[00:49:57.680]fortheeconomy,buti{t}^{\prime }snotgoodforI[00:49:59.839]do{n}^{\prime }tthinki{t}^{\prime }sgoodforoursoul.[00:50:01.359]>>Would{n}^{\prime }tNo.No.Ther{e}^{\prime }snothingworse.[00:50:03.760]killingpeopleisnotgood.UmIknow[00:50:05.920]tha{t}^{\prime }sacontroversialstatement.Um[00:50:07.760]yeah,[00:50:08.160]>>butwhyisitwhyisitimpossiblejust[00:50:10.640]tobanstocktradingformembersof[00:50:12.240]Congress?[00:50:12.640]>>Tha{t}^{\prime }sagreatidea.UmIhavethebill[00:50:14.559]todoitandtha{t}^{\prime }swhyyouknowwehave[00:50:16.800]abipartisangroupagain,myselfandPri[00:50:20.720]andInevergethernameright,butum[00:50:24.960]CortezandmeandChipRoyandabunch[00:50:27.520]ofothers,youknow,w{e}^{\prime }vegotaw{e}^{\prime }ve[00:50:29.520]gotabill,buti{t}^{\prime }snotgoinganywhere.[00:50:31.680]>>Why?becausetoomanymembersof[00:50:33.920]Congress.Imean,weweretoldby[00:50:35.040]leadershipthat,youknow,thesethese[00:50:37.280]guysca{n}^{\prime }taffordca{n}^{\prime }taffordtobe[00:50:39.200]here.Youknowwhat?Ifyouca{n}^{\prime }tafford[00:50:41.040]tobeinCongressandgogetanotherdad[00:50:42.880]gumjob,morepeoplehaveplayed[00:50:44.960]professionalbaseballinthemajor[00:50:47.359]leaguesthanaBennyKnight[00:50:49.920]shouldbeanhonor.Theideaisthey[00:50:51.359]shouldbeallowedtodoinsidertrading[00:50:53.599]whichisafelonybecause[00:50:57.760]wellallyougottodoisdiscloseit[00:50:59.200]andthenifyoudo{n}^{\prime }tdiscloseiti{t}^{\prime }sa[00:51:01.359]slaponthewrist.YouknowIImake[00:51:03.520]skateboardsandumi{t}^{\prime }scheaperthana[00:51:05.839]psychiatrist.Imakethemoutofbamboo[00:51:07.520]andbananafibersandcrazystuffand[00:51:10.160]i{t}^{\prime }sagreat[00:51:10.640]>>Youmakeskateboardsoutofbamboo.[00:51:12.240]>>Ido.Ido.[00:51:13.119]>>Alotofcongressmendothat.[00:51:14.559]>>No,I^{\prime }dsayonedoes.I^{\prime }mprettysafein[00:51:17.440]bettingthat.Iwouldsayi{t}^{\prime }scheaper[00:51:19.119]thanapsychiatrist.I{t}^{\prime }sgood.Butand[00:51:21.680]IgaveonetoTulsiGabbardandyouknow[00:51:23.680]anditgetsviewsandandpeopleI[00:51:25.920]peoplealloverthecountrywanttobuy[00:51:27.200]thesethings.So{I}^{\prime }macapitalist.I^{\prime }m[00:51:29.680]thinkingyouknow{I}^{\prime }dliketosellafew[00:51:31.599]skateboards.Igototheethicspeople.[00:51:33.920]ItakemyuhDCchiefwithmeandsh{e}^{\prime }s[00:51:37.119]verysmart.MyKnoxvillechiefisa[00:51:40.720]lady.The{y}^{\prime }rebothincrediblysmart[00:51:42.559]ladies.SoItaketheDCladywithme[00:51:45.359]andsh{e}^{\prime }smakingnotes.Imean,you[00:51:46.720]know,Igottogetanattorneyinvolved[00:51:48.079]inthisthing.Ihavetohaveabusiness[00:51:49.440]plan.Youwanttodoinsidertrading,be[00:51:52.000]amemberofCongress.Youwanttosell[00:51:53.520]skateboards,youbettergetyouadadgum[00:51:55.359]lawyer.Andtha{t}^{\prime }swhat{I}^{\prime }mhavingtodo[00:51:57.280]rightnow.Imean,I^{\prime }mbuildinga[00:51:58.559]businessplan.[00:51:59.440]>>Leadershipactuallysaidtoyou,"We[00:52:01.280]ca{n}^{\prime }tstopinsidertradingbecausethey[00:52:03.040]needthemoney."[00:52:03.760]>>Yeah.Andthe{y}^{\prime }veAndbothparties,I[00:52:05.520]mean,i{t}^{\prime }soneofthoseYoutalkabout[00:52:06.880]oneofthoseissuesthatbothparties[00:52:08.079]agreeon.Bothpartiesleadershipdoes.[00:52:10.400]Andbecausetheydo{n}^{\prime }twanttoupsetthe[00:52:11.839]applecartandandAmerica,thatwould[00:52:14.319]besuchaagreatthingtoshowAmerica.[00:52:16.640]Hey,w{e}^{\prime }regoingtotrytodowha{t}^{\prime }s[00:52:17.760]rightforonce.[00:52:18.480]>>DotheyknowhowmuchAmericahates[00:52:20.160]them?[00:52:21.520]>>No.EveryoneofthemeveryIalways[00:52:24.000]rememberinmyhometownwhentheydid[00:52:26.400]awaywithuminsidertrading.[00:52:29.200]Imean,I^{\prime }msorry,notinsidertrading.[00:52:30.720]Theydidawaywithumtermlimits.[00:52:32.480]Excuseme.Andtheywereinterviewing[00:52:34.720]someoftheofficeholders.Iremember[00:52:36.000]oneofficeholdersaid,"Ijustdo{n}^{\prime }t[00:52:37.599]knowifthiscountyisgoingtoexist[00:52:38.880]withoutus.Ido{n}^{\prime }tseehowtheycango[00:52:40.559]ahead."AndandIthoughtitwaslikeI[00:52:42.400]checkedmymycalendar.IsthisApril[00:52:43.839]Fools?Ithoughtitwasajoke.I[00:52:45.119]thoughttheywereactuallykidding,you[00:52:46.720]know.Imean,thatisthe[00:52:47.599]>>arrogancecountydo.[00:52:49.599]>>W{e}^{\prime }restillthere.[00:52:50.400]>>Stillthere.Yeah.Okay.[00:52:51.520]>>Greatbondrating.[00:52:52.319]>>Was{n}^{\prime }tconsumedbyfire[00:52:53.280]>>whenIwasNo,no,theLorddid{n}^{\prime }tcome[00:52:55.280]downandcrushuslikeSodomand[00:52:56.800]Gomorrah.But,youknow,umbutanyway,[00:53:00.559]the{y}^{\prime }veumtheycontinuouslyforusand[00:53:04.559]noww{e}^{\prime }vew{e}^{\prime }vepushedthem.Now,the[00:53:06.480]headoftheTreasurysaysyouneedtodo[00:53:08.240]it.Trumpsaystodoit.Andso,Luna[00:53:10.800]says{I}^{\prime }mbringingMerchant{s}^{\prime }sbillto[00:53:12.319]thefloor.I^{\prime }mgonnadoadis,youknow,[00:53:14.640]adischargepetitionandw{e}^{\prime }regoingto[00:53:16.000]bringittothefloorandgetenough[00:53:17.200]memberstosignon.Ido{n}^{\prime }tknowifwe[00:53:19.040]canornot,butw{e}^{\prime }regoingtotry.But[00:53:20.800]her{e}^{\prime }sthething,Tucker.W{e}^{\prime }llpassa[00:53:22.800]billifwedo,iftheifleadership[00:53:25.839]shinesonus,andw{e}^{\prime }llpassabill,and[00:53:29.119]theni{t}^{\prime }llbeatoughbill,andthenthe[00:53:31.599]Senatewillpassonealittletougheron[00:53:33.920]somethingweca{n}^{\prime }tagreeon.Andthen[00:53:36.000]w{e}^{\prime }llsay,"Lookatthoseguysinthe[00:53:37.680]Senate.Youknow,the{y}^{\prime }re150yearsold.[00:53:39.920]Theyca{n}^{\prime }tthe{y}^{\prime }resocrooked."And[00:53:41.200]the{y}^{\prime }llsay,"Lookatus.w{e}^{\prime }reabunch[00:53:42.559]ofcreatins,youknow,wedo{n}^{\prime }tknow[00:53:43.839]whatw{e}^{\prime }redoingandtheni{t}^{\prime }llgoaway[00:53:46.240]andwell,wetried.Andtha{t}^{\prime }sjustthe[00:53:48.400]gamethe{y}^{\prime }replaying.Thatisagame[00:53:49.839]theyplaywitheverything.Eitherthat[00:53:51.440]ori{t}^{\prime }sastudycommittee.Somany[00:53:53.280]bills,andIwastalkingaboutthatwith[00:53:54.720]theuhthestaff,youknow,the{y}^{\prime }ll[00:53:56.800]the{y}^{\prime }llgetyoutodo,oh,do{n}^{\prime }tdothis[00:53:58.240]bill.Le{t}^{\prime }sdoastudybillandthen[00:53:59.839]comebacknextyearwithallthis[00:54:01.520]information.Youknow,Tucker,haveyou[00:54:04.079]everseenthatlastsceneinRaidersof[00:54:05.680]theLostArcwherethe{y}^{\prime }regoinginto[00:54:07.040]thatwarehouse?Youknow,itjustgoes[00:54:08.800]onandon.I^{\prime }mprettysuretha{t}^{\prime }swhere[00:54:10.240]allthestudycommitteebillsgoto[00:54:12.400]aftertheypassthemandyouputinyour[00:54:14.559]localnewspaper,oh,lookatthisgreat[00:54:16.000]billcuzithasthesametitle,butit[00:54:18.079]does{n}^{\prime }tdoanything.Andthenumthen[00:54:20.720]youdo{n}^{\prime }tandthenthenextyearyou[00:54:22.000]do{n}^{\prime }tpassanything.Youyoudo{n}^{\prime }tcome[00:54:23.520]backwithanythingcuzyo{u}^{\prime }vealready[00:54:25.200]so-calledpassedyouryouryourlame[00:54:27.119]bill.Andumandthatwarehouseisfull[00:54:30.400]ofallthosereportsbecause{I}^{\prime }venever[00:54:32.319]seen{I}^{\prime }venevereverseenoneofthose[00:54:34.720]reportsafterwepassedthosebills.[00:54:36.480]>>No,ofcoursenot.Ijustwonderthough,[00:54:39.200]Imeanthedetailsofthisare[00:54:40.720]interesting,butIthinkthebroad[00:54:42.400]outlineisalreadyknownbythewhole[00:54:44.240]public,whichisthisisfakeandthese[00:54:47.119]peopleareinitforreasonsthathave[00:54:49.119]nothingtodowiththepublicinterest.[00:54:51.359]AndI,youknow,everybodywantstorail[00:54:52.880]onPelosi.Sh{e}^{\prime }snoton,ifyougoon[00:54:55.599]theunusualwhaleswebsite,sh{e}^{\prime }snot[00:54:57.920]eveninthetop10forinsidertrading.[00:55:00.720]>>Yeah,sh{e}^{\prime }sIthinksh{e}^{\prime }snumber11,but[00:55:04.960]youknow.[00:55:05.359]>>Yeah,Iknowsomeofthepeopleonthat[00:55:06.640]list.Idotoo.Iknoweverydadgumone[00:55:08.559]ofthemandandther{e}^{\prime }salistofa[00:55:10.319]hundredandmywifealwayschecksit[00:55:12.800]everyyear.Shesaid,"Honey,"Isaid,[00:55:14.160]"Iknow,sweetie.Imean,my12mybuddy[00:55:16.960]TommySylermanagesmy$12,000 [00:55:19.119] portfolio.” Everybody do like I do put [00:55:20.960] it in mutual fund, but I pulled it out [00:55:22.480] last just recently just pulled it out so [00:55:24.960] I could pay for my daughter’s school. [00:55:27.440] Um, which is what I established it for [00:55:29.119] in the first place. But it’s, you know, [00:55:32.240] and that’s and when this airs, I’m going [00:55:34.480] to make a lot of enemies. And here’s [00:55:35.599] what’s going to happen. I’m going to [00:55:36.720] tell you without a doubt. Maybe not [00:55:38.960] since I’m going to tell you. [00:55:39.920] >> How can they be mad at you? [00:55:42.559] >> Pointing out the obvious. Somebody will [00:55:44.640] come down and sit beside me, somebody in [00:55:46.559] leadership or somebody I’m friends with [00:55:48.559] in Congress and say, “Hey, man, some of [00:55:50.559] the guys are really upset with you on [00:55:52.000] this.” I say, “Well, on what?” And they [00:55:53.440] say, “On this what you said on such and [00:55:55.200] such.” And I I’ve said this before. I [00:55:56.799] said, and this will be a chapter of my [00:55:59.119] book if I ever write it. And I said, [00:56:01.359] “But you know it’s the truth, right?” [00:56:03.200] And they go, “Oh, yeah. We know it’s the [00:56:05.040] truth. We just wish you wouldn’t say it [00:56:06.480] anymore. You know, I can’t tell you how [00:56:08.160] many times I’ve had that conversation. [00:56:09.440] >> But there’s no shame. Like, we’ve all [00:56:11.200] done bad things. [00:56:11.920] >> 12% of the population votes, Tucker. [00:56:14.160] They Nobody Listen, it’s a game. We need [00:56:17.520] to start People start needing to get [00:56:19.839] their grandkids to educate them how to [00:56:21.520] how to get on the computer and read [00:56:23.440] these bills that we’re passing. And look [00:56:25.200] at the game we’re playing with y’all. [00:56:26.880] These 3,000 page spending bills that, [00:56:29.599] you know, fund whatever you need for [00:56:31.520] your lab or whatever. Then you read down [00:56:33.839] and it’s funding [00:56:36.319] circumcisions in Madagascar. I mean [00:56:38.480] things like that literally drag shows [00:56:40.319] over or abortion which is abhorrent and [00:56:44.079] so I you know it’s just a it’s just a [00:56:47.280] game and it’s a and America needs to [00:56:50.480] start paying attention and Congress [00:56:52.799] members of Cong look people they always [00:56:55.520] have any more people to vote but as long [00:56:57.280] as they’re winning that’s what [00:56:58.480] leadership’s about in either party is [00:57:00.240] staying in power. It’s having the [00:57:01.680] Suburban. It’s being three deep with [00:57:03.599] security. It’s never standing in line at [00:57:05.520] a at the movie theater or going to a [00:57:08.000] ball game or a concert. You know, it [00:57:10.400] becomes [00:57:12.319] self-preservation. [00:57:13.920] >> I remember when January 6th happened and [00:57:16.160] I was shocked. I was completely shocked [00:57:17.599] by it. And um I was the last House [00:57:20.319] member to leave the floor on January 6. [00:57:22.319] >> Good for you. And I was like, “Wow, this [00:57:24.000] is I hate vandalism.” Whatever. Now I [00:57:26.400] look back and I’m like, I understand [00:57:27.760] exactly why they did that. I’m not mad [00:57:30.079] about it at all. I think that Congress [00:57:32.640] should have taken notice that people are [00:57:35.839] really, really mad at Congress and [00:57:38.640] instead they just ignored it and are [00:57:40.240] like, “No, everyone who did it is a is a [00:57:41.920] Nazi and we need more security.” Really, [00:57:44.240] that’s your takeaway. [00:57:46.000] >> You need more security. Maybe you need [00:57:47.280] to act in a way that people respect so [00:57:51.200] the country doesn’t hate you cuz you’re [00:57:53.200] supposed to be representing the country [00:57:54.559] >> and the 100 plus federal agents that [00:57:56.640] were intertwined. The whole thing was [00:57:58.480] fake. Obviously, I was [00:58:01.520] >> Yeah, I don’t even get into it. Yes. No, [00:58:03.040] I spent a lot of time fighting about [00:58:05.119] this at Fox News when they, you know, [00:58:06.640] people resigned when I said I think this [00:58:09.680] was like a setup. Oh, [00:58:12.880] I can’t work with a Nazi. It turned out [00:58:14.799] to be true. Um, but [00:58:17.760] >> again, it’s a it’s how many years later [00:58:19.760] and nobody cares. [00:58:20.720] >> Nobody cares. So, it’s not I’m sorry to [00:58:22.400] make it about me. I didn’t mean to do [00:58:23.520] that. It’s just I’m mad about that [00:58:24.640] topic. But the point is, [00:58:25.680] >> it’s your show, brother. [00:58:26.720] >> No, no, no. It it No, but it’s just it’s [00:58:28.559] about the Congress and I think you need [00:58:31.040] a legislative body, not against the [00:58:33.119] Congress in theory. What I’m worried [00:58:34.880] about, here’s the point that I’m [00:58:36.319] attempting to make in a long-winded way, [00:58:38.240] which is if you don’t pay any attention [00:58:41.680] at all to how people feel about you when [00:58:44.240] your job is to represent those people, [00:58:46.640] that system can continue and you you’re [00:58:49.599] going to get a January 6th but for real [00:58:51.839] at some point if you keep acting this [00:58:53.359] way. [00:58:53.680] >> It will be an armed [00:58:55.040] >> like actually actually. And a lot of [00:58:56.720] people will applaud it. I’m not rooting [00:58:58.720] for that at all. I’m just saying that’s [00:59:00.240] going to happen. Do members of Congress [00:59:02.319] get this? Do they understand how hated [00:59:03.839] they are? Do they care? [00:59:05.599] >> I think there’s an arrogance associated [00:59:07.760] with being in Congress. I think it’s a [00:59:10.000] complete arrogance. Um [00:59:12.720] I I always remember one time I was uh at [00:59:15.920] a UT football game when I was in the [00:59:18.000] legislature and a former member or well [00:59:21.839] they’re all they’re all dead. Most of [00:59:23.440] the people I served with, a lot of them [00:59:24.720] are. Pulled up, parked illegally, got [00:59:27.440] out of their car and come strutting [00:59:28.720] across the parking lot. And my buddy [00:59:30.079] said, you know, who the heck is that? [00:59:32.079] And I said, “He’s a pretty big deal in [00:59:33.680] Nashville.” He said, “Tell me ain’t in [00:59:35.040] Nashville. He’s in Knoxville.” And I, [00:59:37.119] you know, and I’ve always remembered [00:59:38.960] that because u now that guy’s a judge [00:59:41.920] who was telling me that my best friend, [00:59:43.440] but he um it was just a, you know, a [00:59:47.119] wakeup moment that I realized early on [00:59:49.040] that that everybody has got this FFT [00:59:52.400] type mentality. And it’s who can [00:59:55.520] represent better than me? Nobody. And I [00:59:58.240] can tell you right now, there’s probably [01:00:01.119] 200,000 people in my district that could [01:00:03.200] probably do a better job than I am. I’m [01:00:04.799] just hard-headed enough to stick my head [01:00:07.280] out. [01:00:07.760] >> People don’t want it cuz it’s [01:00:08.960] frustrating. [01:00:09.599] >> Yeah. And they see the security issues [01:00:11.359] now, too. [01:00:12.240] >> Is there ever a moment in, you know, [01:00:14.640] like at lunch with your colleagues where [01:00:16.640] somebody says, “Man, have you looked at [01:00:18.559] the numbers? People really hate us. This [01:00:20.559] is a problem.” [01:00:21.520] >> I usually don’t eat lunch with my [01:00:22.880] colleagues. So, [01:00:23.839] >> okay. But I mean, [01:00:25.040] >> I have a few close friends in [01:00:26.400] >> during the course of a day at work in [01:00:28.799] the US Congress where you do work. Does [01:00:30.720] anyone ever note that like [01:00:32.880] >> we’re more unpopular than like Chlamydia [01:00:36.480] >> and that’s not good. [01:00:37.839] >> No. Yeah. I’d say we’re I’d say [01:00:39.920] Chlamydia out outranks us. [01:00:42.400] >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, no. No. [01:00:43.760] Definitely. Chlamydia has its defenders. [01:00:46.880] Um, [01:00:47.280] >> no. In defense. [01:00:48.559] >> No. [01:00:49.040] >> No. But yeah, there’s a bunch of us. I [01:00:50.559] mean, we we see what’s going on. We just [01:00:52.000] shake our head. But it’s a lot of [01:00:53.200] frustration though, Tucker. You know, [01:00:54.799] we’re in the minority. You look at [01:00:57.680] spending bills and then look at the [01:00:59.599] opinion polls on things like Ukraine, [01:01:01.680] other things, and you look at the board [01:01:03.200] and you’re wondering where are we at? [01:01:05.359] Yeah. What’s going on? And um you know, [01:01:08.000] and for guys like me though, it gets [01:01:10.480] incredibly tough because um you know, [01:01:13.839] the big boys start calling and the the [01:01:16.400] bank account dries up pretty quick. It’s [01:01:18.160] hard to raise money for somebody like [01:01:19.440] me. It is incredibly tough to raise [01:01:21.760] money. A lot of most of my contributions [01:01:23.760] are just hardworking, God-fearing people [01:01:27.119] who’ll send me $10inaBibleverse,you[01:01:30.000]know,andIdo{n}^{\prime }tum[01:01:32.960]thebillionairesusuallyareformethe[01:01:34.720]dayaftertheelection.[01:01:35.599]>>Yeah,Inoticed.Andthe{y}^{\prime }reoutin[01:01:36.960]forceagainstacoupleofyour[01:01:38.160]colleagueswho[01:01:39.599]>>saidthingsthataretotallyconsistent[01:01:41.839]withwhatthepublicwants,[01:01:43.599]>>right?And[01:01:44.640]>>thebillionairesdo{n}^{\prime }twantit.[01:01:45.760]>>Theydo{n}^{\prime }twantit.Andtheyandthey[01:01:47.359]controlalotofthemedia.Andumbut[01:01:49.920]fortunatelynowfortheinternetwecan[01:01:52.079]>>yeahbypass[01:01:53.040]>>peoplelikeyouandIcanbypassthat.[01:01:54.960]>>Oh,I^{\prime }mgratefuleveryday.CanIaskso[01:01:57.760]yo{u}^{\prime }reumyourepresent[01:02:00.079]>>EasternTennesseewhichismuchmore[01:02:03.040]conservativethansaytheMemphisarea[01:02:05.119]oreventhe[01:02:05.760]>>ActuallyIdidonepointbetterthan[01:02:07.119]PresidentTrump,butifhewerehere[01:02:08.720]today{I}^{\prime }dsaythatwasinfactanerror[01:02:11.040]andthatyoucarriedmeoverthefinish[01:02:12.559]line,Mr.President.[01:02:13.760]>>Ithinkyouwouldhavetosaythat.Yes,[01:02:15.520]sure.Um,but[01:02:19.040]soyourthreatisnotinthegeneral[01:02:20.559]electionlikei{t}^{\prime }si{t}^{\prime }sanRplus[01:02:22.880]whatever.[01:02:23.520]>>Yeah,i{t}^{\prime }saprimarybuti{t}^{\prime }sjust[01:02:25.200]>>itbeaprimary,[01:02:26.240]>>right?Buttheycoulddropbigmoneyin[01:02:28.240]andthedarkmoneyand[01:02:29.760]>>Okay,sotha{t}^{\prime }stheamemberlikeyouis[01:02:32.400]vulnerableintheprimary.[01:02:33.599]>>Yeah.Andsomeday{I}^{\prime }dliketomaybeifI[01:02:35.040]hadtheopportunitytogettotheUS[01:02:36.160]Senate,Iwould{n}^{\prime }tminddoingthat,but[01:02:37.599]thatwouldbeKatieBarthedoor.The{y}^{\prime }d[01:02:39.119]pourthemoneyinalloverthecountry[01:02:40.480]tobeatme.So,ofcourse,[01:02:43.359]butyo{u}^{\prime }reevenseeingwithacoupleof[01:02:44.559]yourcolleaguesaregettingprimarumby[01:02:47.520]billionairesbecausethe{y}^{\prime }vesaidthings[01:02:49.440]thatare,youknow,truebutnot[01:02:51.920]acceptable,Iguess.Butareyouworried[01:02:53.680]aboutbeingprimar?[01:02:55.440]>>Yeah,ther{e}^{\prime }sonlytwowaystorun.[01:02:57.040]Scaredandunopposed.AndI{I}^{\prime }m{I}^{\prime }ma[01:02:59.839]productoftheprimary.ThefirstraceI[01:03:01.440]won,IIbeatanincumbentinastate[01:03:04.559]houserace,99houseracesthatyear.I[01:03:06.880]wastheonlypersontobeatan[01:03:07.839]incumbent.andumIwonwithjusttwo[01:03:10.799]and3/4percentagepointsahead.I[01:03:13.680]knockedonover6,000doors.I{I}^{\prime }dbeen[01:03:16.640]runoutoftownonrunoutofbusiness[01:03:18.559]bythegovernment.Andumitwasagreat[01:03:21.760]lesson,butIdidknockedonover6,000[01:03:24.079]doors.AndIthinkIraisedIthinkI[01:03:27.119]raisedaroundeightor$9,000. I can’t [01:03:29.119] remember. And I thought, how am I going [01:03:30.079] to spend all this dad gum money? You [01:03:32.079] know, every morning I’d wake up, my mom [01:03:34.079] and daddy of course were living then. [01:03:36.079] And um I would throw up cuz I had this [01:03:38.720] horrible taste of peppermint in my [01:03:40.559] mouth. And the reason I had peppermint [01:03:42.319] because I licked all my stamps. That’s [01:03:44.000] back in the day. You had to lick stamps. [01:03:45.680] >> Yes. [01:03:46.079] >> And I remember one morning I woke up and [01:03:47.599] I was rolled up in them. I was like in a [01:03:49.280] cocoon of stamps. But you and I wake up [01:03:51.520] every morning I’d throw up and mama [01:03:53.440] would make me a turkey sandwich on white [01:03:56.480] bread and give me a Sprite and I’d get [01:03:58.160] right back and knock on doors [01:03:59.440] >> for breakfast. [01:04:00.240] >> Yeah. That’s all I could hold down. Then [01:04:01.760] I’d get out and knock on doors all day [01:04:03.280] long. And um you know I lost over 20 [01:04:06.000] lbs, got bit by a dog, took off my [01:04:08.079] shirt, I look like a target, I just read [01:04:09.839] on the rings and white in the belly, you [01:04:11.760] know, and and um and so but it was um I [01:04:15.440] learned wore out a pair of New Balance [01:04:17.760] shoes and um the only shoes at the time [01:04:20.079] that were made in America. So I I’m kind [01:04:22.319] of big on that. And so um we won and um [01:04:26.079] spent four years in the house and then [01:04:29.200] um I just come off of a business deal. I [01:04:31.039] had a mulch business. I had a composting [01:04:33.119] business. And I’m I’m a capitalist. But [01:04:35.839] I can remember, you remember that scene [01:04:37.520] in the Godfather right before he dies, [01:04:39.280] the original Godfather, and he’s [01:04:40.720] spraying that on the on the tomatoes and [01:04:42.880] the little grandb babies running around [01:04:44.160] him. My daddy had one of those sprayers. [01:04:45.839] I remember he he grew these tomatoes. [01:04:47.440] And at the time, I remember I think he [01:04:48.720] spent $20ontomatoesandfertilizer.[01:04:51.599]Andwegotlikethreeofthesegnarly[01:04:53.280]tomatoes.Ofcourse,thisisinthe70s[01:04:55.039]andw{e}^{\prime }refamilyofpubliceducators,so[01:04:57.440]20bucksisrighteousbucks.Isaid,[01:04:59.599]"Daddy,I^{\prime }dliketotrythat.Iwantto[01:05:00.880]tryorganicgardening."Andhesaid,[01:05:03.520]"Allright,yougoahead."Andatthe[01:05:05.359]time,Kubusedtocomebythehouseand[01:05:08.559]umachippertruckandthe{y}^{\prime }dpickup[01:05:11.680]allyourbrush,youknow,throwthemin[01:05:13.599]thebackofoneofthosebigchippers[01:05:14.880]andthe{y}^{\prime }dspititinthebackofthe[01:05:16.240]truck.AndIsaid,"Whatdo{y}^{\prime }alldo[01:05:17.920]withthatstuff?"Wetakeittothe[01:05:19.119]landfill.Isaid,"Really?Howmuchthey[01:05:20.799]payyouforit?"Andtheysaid,"They[01:05:21.839]do{n}^{\prime }t.Wepaythemtotakeit."Thiswas[01:05:23.760]in1978.Iwasintheeighthgradeas[01:05:26.240]thewheelstartedturning.Ithought,[01:05:27.200]"Man,tha{t}^{\prime }sabusinessidea."Isaid,[01:05:28.559]"Dumpthatstuffhere."So,theydumped[01:05:30.720]itandIcomposteditandIhadacrazy,[01:05:33.200]incrediblegarden.Squash,beans,[01:05:35.760]strawberries,um,tomatoes,ofcourse,[01:05:38.079]andIIfedthechurch,thethe[01:05:39.760]neighborhood,everybodycomebythe[01:05:41.039]house.Ifriendsandme,theygivethem[01:05:42.640]asackoftomatoes.Well,fastforward,[01:05:46.400]uh,wenttocollege,sixyearsof[01:05:48.480]undergraduatestudiesattheUniversity[01:05:49.920]ofTennessee.Ithoroughlyenjoyedmy[01:05:52.079]collegecareer,sixyearsofstudies.[01:05:55.119]Um,Idid{n}^{\prime }tdrinkorsmokepotandit[01:05:57.599]stilltookmesixyears.[01:05:58.960]>>Tha{t}^{\prime }sprettygood.[01:05:59.680]>>Endupagreeingtotechnologicaladult[01:06:01.839]education.Iwascertifiedtoteach[01:06:03.760]shop.Tookafewartclassesand[01:06:05.760]apparentlyIgotanartcertificationI[01:06:08.400]thinkonmycertificateIbelieve.But[01:06:10.319]anyway,soumIcanweldandfixmotors[01:06:12.880]andIcanburnyourhousedownifyou[01:06:15.119]needitwired.Ica{n}^{\prime }tdothatvery[01:06:16.400]well.Butalltheothermachineshop[01:06:18.160]stuffIcandothatorIcouldatthe[01:06:20.000]time.So,Icameupwiththisidea.I[01:06:22.400]takenallthecit{y}^{\prime }syardwasteandI[01:06:26.240]presentedittothenthecitymayor.I[01:06:28.319]said,"Whatare{y}^{\prime }alldoingwithit?"I[01:06:29.280]said,"Wetakeittothelandfilland[01:06:31.520]theycouldpaymeareducedfeeofwhat[01:06:34.319]theytakeittothelandfill.Iwould[01:06:36.160]grinditandthensellit."Well,wehad[01:06:38.960]ablizzardthatyear.So,wedidabout[01:06:42.559]seemslikewedid30,000tonsthatfirst[01:06:46.079]yearandtheypaidmearound,itwas[01:06:47.680]under20,butjustsay$20 a ton. So, I [01:06:50.240] was making $600,000[01:06:52.400]andthiswasinum91o{r}^{\prime }92.Iwasbeen[01:06:56.319]outofcollegeforalittlewhile,[01:06:57.520]workedinthebusinessworld.Andum[01:07:01.760]IIliterallyIwouldhavebeena[01:07:04.160]million.IIbecameverywealthy,butI[01:07:06.400]hadtogrindit.So,itcostmeabouta[01:07:07.839]halfamilliondollars.So,Iwasstill[01:07:10.079]clearing$100,000 living at home with my [01:07:12.960] family who’s public educator. So, [01:07:14.480] $100,000wasprettyrighteousbucks.But[01:07:16.640]thenIsoldit.IsolditforumforI[01:07:20.160]thinkitwas$20 a pickup truckload. So [01:07:23.599] I was selling between um I would sell [01:07:26.799] four to 5,000 pickup truckloads a month. [01:07:28.960] So I mean I was raking it and it was all [01:07:31.280] cash and I reported everything and had [01:07:33.119] accountants and made sure I was crazy [01:07:35.200] honest. I gave half of it away to [01:07:38.000] churches and schools. Well, somebody [01:07:40.319] decided they wanted that business what I [01:07:43.280] think ended up happening and um they [01:07:45.200] accused me of taking toxic waste. They [01:07:46.720] said there’s bacteria in that newspaper [01:07:48.559] articles. There’s bacteria in his mulch. [01:07:50.480] Well, human body contains a half a pound [01:07:52.640] of uh a quarter pound of bacteria. I [01:07:55.119] mean, it aids in digestion. If the earth [01:07:57.200] didn’t have bacteria, it’d be a cube. I [01:07:59.200] mean, we just press, you know, nothing [01:08:00.720] would. So, the Smoky Mountains, there’s [01:08:03.200] not in these parks out here, there’s [01:08:04.559] nobody running around in a white suit [01:08:05.839] collecting every leaf, you know, and and [01:08:07.760] putting it. So, God had a plan and and [01:08:10.559] bacteria is part of it. Well, of course, [01:08:12.559] it had bacteria in it. and they would [01:08:14.799] test it and they did a faulty test and [01:08:17.359] finally it just got ridiculous. The EPA [01:08:19.440] even came in and and oddly enough, the [01:08:23.359] day after they closed my business, I got [01:08:25.440] the EPA report and it cleared me and [01:08:27.120] said, “In fact, there is bacteria in [01:08:28.480] there, but there’s not abnormal amounts. [01:08:30.719] There’s nothing.” And the head of UT’s [01:08:32.640] microbiology department, I’ll never [01:08:34.000] forget this. He Tucker, he ate my mulch [01:08:36.400] on the news to prove that this was just [01:08:38.799] bogus. This is crazy. And the state [01:08:40.960] would come in and shut me down. They get [01:08:42.880] >> How was it? [01:08:43.679] >> Huh? How’s the mulch? [01:08:45.199] >> Delicious. [01:08:46.000] >> Yeah, [01:08:46.400] >> delicious. Um, tastes a lot like [01:08:48.239] chicken. [01:08:48.640] >> I bet. [01:08:49.199] >> So anyway, um, [01:08:52.400] uh, I end up losing that business. And I [01:08:54.159] remember my dad told me, he said, “Put [01:08:55.359] an American flag on top of that mulch [01:08:57.040] pile.” And I did. And he said, “This [01:08:59.120] thing’s bigger than that.” Daddy’s World [01:09:00.319] War II veteran. Nothing. He’s calm under [01:09:03.600] fire. Man, him and mama both were [01:09:05.199] wonderful people. Mama flew an airplane [01:09:06.640] during the Second World War, depression [01:09:08.000] era. Didn’t have electricity. She’s [01:09:09.440] senior in high school. They were tough [01:09:11.600] people. And they didn’t like what they [01:09:12.880] were doing to me. And apparently the [01:09:14.080] public didn’t either cuz I knocked on I [01:09:16.239] said I knocked on over 6,000 doors and [01:09:18.000] beat a respected incumbent I guess in [01:09:20.400] the primary and um and I never looked [01:09:23.600] back and I became I was in the state [01:09:25.920] house for four years, state senate for [01:09:27.759] 12 years and that’s sort of been my [01:09:29.040] thing even with the UFOs. My thing is [01:09:31.359] when people come to me because [01:09:34.480] you can hire a lobbyist, you can hire a [01:09:37.679] lawyer, but the average working guy, [01:09:40.400] they call the they call the front desk [01:09:42.159] and they asked, “Can I speak to Tim?” [01:09:44.159] because they think they know me because [01:09:46.239] they’re, you know, the government’s [01:09:47.759] ripped them off. And I always remember [01:09:49.279] during that time it was when um do you [01:09:52.239] remember Travelgate under the Clinton [01:09:54.320] administration? [01:09:55.040] >> Yes. And it seems like I think Hillary [01:09:57.440] and Bill they they if I remember [01:09:59.360] correctly they these people that were [01:10:01.199] running the travel operation at the [01:10:02.640] White House and Congress they ran them [01:10:04.400] out of business. They [01:10:05.840] >> so put their friends in there [01:10:06.960] >> so they could put their friends in there [01:10:08.000] and those people traveled the country [01:10:09.520] because I remember they had a half a [01:10:11.120] million dollars or they had 300,000 in [01:10:13.120] legal expenses. I had more than that in [01:10:15.520] the mulch business. I mean they were [01:10:16.800] threatening a felony. They were going to [01:10:17.840] throw me in the federal penitentiary [01:10:19.360] over this thing and because I wouldn’t [01:10:21.360] give up. And they had and I remember the [01:10:23.360] University of Tennessee, this liberal [01:10:25.679] professor gave his kids extra credit if [01:10:28.000] they would come pick at me. And they [01:10:29.760] came down there and they brought the [01:10:30.960] neighbors, they brought neighborhood [01:10:32.560] people down there and they had [01:10:33.920] misspelled words in their signs, you [01:10:35.600] know, and they’d park their BMWs around [01:10:37.520] the CL around the side and they could [01:10:39.520] come pick at me to look like they were [01:10:40.960] just and they all dressed down. It was [01:10:42.719] the most pathetic thing. And the and I [01:10:45.440] remember the uh the person at the city [01:10:48.080] that was really orchestrating it all [01:10:49.920] against me was um I remember seeing them [01:10:53.840] hug the reporter that was writing all [01:10:55.679] the nasty articles about me and I just [01:10:58.719] you know the whole thing was just and [01:11:00.159] and I saw I see Americans getting run [01:11:02.320] down the road and that I think that’s [01:11:03.520] why people like me appeal there’s not a [01:11:06.000] lot of folks like me obviously in [01:11:07.280] Congress but folks like me appeal to [01:11:09.600] people because they’ve been run over and [01:11:11.920] they know they can call me And I can and [01:11:14.480] I’m not judgmental. I just say I don’t [01:11:16.640] care if they vote for me or not. Have [01:11:18.239] people that are convicted felons. People [01:11:20.640] have killed people before and I’ve [01:11:22.000] helped them out and cuz I don’t care cuz [01:11:24.159] I see the system. It ran over me and I [01:11:26.640] was just some white middle class kid [01:11:29.520] from West Knoxville and the system ran [01:11:31.760] me over. [01:11:32.320] >> Well, speaking of someone Well, I’ve got [01:11:34.239] two questions before I forget. One, have [01:11:36.000] you ever been threatened since you’ve [01:11:37.600] been in the US Congress with a primary [01:11:40.239] challenge by your own party? Has anyone [01:11:42.560] in your own party said, “Knock it off or [01:11:44.400] we’ll fund a challenger?” [01:11:45.520] >> They flew, from what I understand, a [01:11:48.080] couple people were flown to DC. I know [01:11:51.440] one apparently was, and I think the [01:11:53.440] other one was, and they either called me [01:11:56.159] or called somebody else and said, you [01:11:58.159] know, no, Tim’s Tim’s a good guy. [01:12:00.480] >> Why? Why? [01:12:01.840] >> Cuz I rock the boat. I’m not [01:12:03.440] >> In what way? [01:12:05.120] >> Question leadership. I don’t I call them [01:12:07.920] out. I can remember one time. Was it the [01:12:09.600] UAPs, do you think, or [01:12:11.040] >> No. Well, I mean, they use that. They [01:12:13.360] think they can use that against me. It’s [01:12:15.360] other things. It’s much deeper than [01:12:16.880] that. I can remember when I went um in [01:12:20.719] conference, we were at the Capitol Hill [01:12:22.159] Club and they meet over there legally so [01:12:25.280] we can talk about fundraising and then [01:12:27.040] we were in the capital and have our [01:12:28.640] conference meeting, talk strict [01:12:30.080] politics. And I asked the head of the [01:12:33.360] committee that was carrying the bill. I [01:12:35.840] said, ‘Ma’am, I said, ‘How much money is [01:12:37.440] in this bill?’ And she said,“I don’t [01:12:40.480] know.” [01:12:42.000] And I said, “No, I mean, the bill that [01:12:43.440] you’re talking about right now, the one [01:12:44.880] that we’re getting ready to spend all [01:12:45.920] this money on, how much is in it?” And [01:12:48.159] she said, “I don’t know.” And leadership [01:12:49.840] said, “Man, you can’t what are you [01:12:50.880] doing? What are you doing?” I was like, [01:12:52.800] “What do you mean, what am I doing? I [01:12:54.400] come from Tennessee. We run a balanced [01:12:56.000] budget in Tennessee. It’s a crazy [01:12:57.600] concept. We have zero debt. That’s why [01:13:00.080] everybody’s clamoring. [01:13:00.960] >> Leadership didn’t want you to ask how [01:13:02.880] much money. [01:13:03.360] >> It just made everybody uncomfortable, I [01:13:05.120] guess. I don’t know. But it things like [01:13:06.800] that. I get it. I get it. I I ask [01:13:08.800] questions, you know, that it just it’s [01:13:12.640] just part of the system. They beat you [01:13:14.080] down. they beat you down and then you [01:13:15.520] see him and then you know next thing [01:13:17.600] it’s like um that’s like in Cool Hand [01:13:19.840] Luke where where um Paul Newman is um he [01:13:24.320] comes back they beat him down and beat [01:13:26.239] him down and he’s he becomes you know [01:13:28.960] the the warden’s boy but then in reality [01:13:32.640] it was all in hacked and he ends up [01:13:34.719] stealing a truck and getting killed but [01:13:36.960] I don’t plan on stealing a truck and I [01:13:38.400] don’t plan on getting killed. I’m not [01:13:39.600] suicidal. Congress won’t continue to [01:13:41.920] exist if they keep acting like this. I [01:13:44.159] mean, [01:13:44.560] >> this country will not continue to exist. [01:13:46.800] If we don’t get our financial ship in [01:13:48.719] order, we will sink. And it is we’re 36 [01:13:51.679] trillion in debt. Nobody cares. All they [01:13:55.280] care about is getting through that next [01:13:56.400] election. [01:13:58.000] That’s bottom line. Leadership, anybody [01:14:00.960] else. These people are all my friends. [01:14:03.199] I’m not making any friends. s I notice [01:14:06.560] people who have a different view or say [01:14:09.040] things like you’re saying. So Massie [01:14:12.400] above all um Marjorie Taylor Green, you [01:14:16.800] I’m not saying you guys agree on on [01:14:18.640] everything. I don’t think you do. [01:14:19.679] >> But we’re all very close friends, [01:14:21.840] >> but you have the a similar orientation [01:14:24.080] which is like actually pro America. Is [01:14:26.560] this good for the country or is it not? [01:14:28.560] And all three of you are either [01:14:30.800] dismissed as crazy or really really [01:14:33.520] hated. [01:14:36.400] In the case of Massie, it’s like, [01:14:39.679] you know, he he’s he’s the target of [01:14:42.159] like a very serious [01:14:44.159] >> Oh, they’re going to spend he’ll spend [01:14:46.480] they’ll drive his money up and spend [01:14:47.920] millions against him. [01:14:49.280] >> Is he going to win, do you think? [01:14:50.640] >> I don’t know. I don’t have any idea. I [01:14:52.800] don’t I haven’t looked at the numbers. I [01:14:55.040] don’t I don’t pay much attention to [01:14:57.360] polls except election night. If it’s [01:15:00.239] close, then I question those. [01:15:02.000] >> Yeah, you have every reason to. You said [01:15:03.920] it uh earlier in our conversation that [01:15:05.679] members of Congress were compromised. [01:15:07.760] What did you mean by that? [01:15:09.360] >> Well, I was on Can I Can I name a rival [01:15:13.280] of yours or maybe I don’t know. [01:15:14.719] >> I want you to name anything that comes [01:15:16.080] to mind. [01:15:16.560] >> I was on the Benny show and it was early [01:15:18.480] on and Benny and I become friends. I [01:15:20.719] didn’t realize he was so close to [01:15:22.159] Charlie Charlie Kirk, but he um um but [01:15:26.640] he had me on early on and I and I I did [01:15:30.000] honestly I didn’t know who he was and he [01:15:31.840] asked me about that and I said well I [01:15:34.080] said here’s the way it works. It’s the [01:15:35.440] way it’s worked in the past. The [01:15:36.480] Russians even have a name for you know [01:15:37.840] the honeypot. You um and I don’t go on [01:15:40.800] overseas trips much. I’ve been to one [01:15:42.560] trip and that was prior I’ I’ve been on [01:15:44.800] one Kodell. Um that’s I went to the [01:15:48.159] Mexican border and I went down one day [01:15:50.640] with um um Andy Biggs who’s no who’s a [01:15:54.880] good Mormon who’s hope maybe be the [01:15:57.280] governor of Arizona. But he um he said, [01:15:59.760] “Bridget, we’re going on this trip. I [01:16:01.120] know you don’t go on these things, but [01:16:02.480] it’s just it’s it’s just it’s one like [01:16:04.000] you’d like. We’ll go down there and [01:16:05.199] back. We’ll stay in an awful motel. [01:16:07.760] we’ll eat some cheap Mexican food, some [01:16:09.600] barbecue, and we’ll put you on a plane [01:16:11.440] back to Tennessee. And I said, “All [01:16:12.640] right, Andy, I’ll do it.” And um um but [01:16:17.840] you know, that’s about it that I’ve [01:16:19.360] done. And so what happens is you’re [01:16:21.840] you’re you’re overseas. You’re being [01:16:24.480] told how great you are. You’re sitting [01:16:26.640] at a bar and somebody and they know what [01:16:30.159] you’re into, guys, gals, combination [01:16:32.719] thereof, drugs, whatever. and they’ll [01:16:36.719] hook you up and you’re thinking you’re [01:16:38.159] the stud, you’re the, you know, your [01:16:39.920] wife’s away. Nobody will know halfway [01:16:41.520] around the world. You end up sleeping [01:16:43.840] with somebody and then, you know, you’re [01:16:46.400] out. Next day you’re flying back to [01:16:48.480] America, you know, you’re you’re back [01:16:50.880] front row at the church, you know, and [01:16:54.159] then um you’re getting ready to make a [01:16:55.520] key vote and somebody comes up and [01:16:58.239] whispers in your ear, “Hey man, were you [01:16:59.920] in a motel room with a girl in, you [01:17:01.920] know, Istanbul or something?” And he was [01:17:03.600] like, “Oh crap.” [01:17:05.679] He goes, “Man, we don’t want that out.” [01:17:07.199] He goes, “No, no, no, no, no. We don’t [01:17:09.600] we’re not going to put that out.” I [01:17:10.880] said, “If you can help us on this little [01:17:12.400] bill, though, you know, now that’s the [01:17:14.320] way they used to do it.” And I’m not so [01:17:16.480] certain they don’t do that now. And it’s [01:17:18.320] funny when I did that show with Benny [01:17:20.400] the next. And oh, I caught hell. I [01:17:22.719] caught hell. [01:17:23.360] >> You said that. [01:17:24.000] >> I said that and members said, “Oh, you [01:17:26.000] can’t be saying that stuff, Burchett.” [01:17:27.600] What? [01:17:27.920] >> You know, [01:17:29.360] >> truth hurts, I guess, for some people [01:17:30.960] and other people. Have you ever, by the [01:17:32.480] way, just parathetically, ever been [01:17:34.159] attacked for saying something false or [01:17:36.000] only true things? [01:17:37.520] >> Only true things. Only true things. So, [01:17:39.520] I’m It’s funny. The next week, Tucker, [01:17:42.719] there was this huge and I said it always [01:17:44.719] gets covered up and everything gets [01:17:46.640] covered up and then somebody owns you. [01:17:48.320] That’s compromised. That’ll be the title [01:17:49.840] of my book. If I ever write a book, Tim [01:17:51.360] Burch, it’s compromised Washington [01:17:53.280] because that’s what happens or has [01:17:55.360] happened in the past. The very next [01:17:57.199] week, a Chinese prostitution ring was [01:18:01.280] busted in where? Washington DC. And who [01:18:04.800] are the and it was listed in the paper. [01:18:06.960] Who is their client list? Um, [01:18:10.960] high-ranking officials [01:18:14.000] um in government, elected officials, and [01:18:17.679] lobbyist. [01:18:19.760] Now [01:18:21.600] to me that that that’s all kinds of red [01:18:24.159] flags going up all over the place. Well, [01:18:26.480] and then the next week the story [01:18:28.400] disappeared. [01:18:29.679] >> Yeah, [01:18:30.239] >> of course it did. But I think what they [01:18:32.640] do now mostly is they have jobs. If you [01:18:35.280] look at these guys and gals and uh you [01:18:38.719] know they’re they have a wife and or [01:18:41.280] girlfriend that’ll work in one of these [01:18:43.120] industries. 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}veneverbeeninvited.So,[01:20:59.840]>>yeah.I[01:21:01.280]>>whenIwasinthestatelegislature,we[01:21:03.040]usedtotalkaboutthathowweknewsome[01:21:05.199]peoplewereprettyshady[01:21:06.880]>>andumbutyouknowtheyneverthey[01:21:10.080]wouldnevercometosomebodylikemeand[01:21:11.520]offermeanythingbecausetheyknewmy[01:21:13.199]background.[01:21:13.760]>>No.Andtheyknowyo{u}^{\prime }remaking[01:21:14.880]skateboardsinyourgarage.Soyo{u}^{\prime }re[01:21:16.320]busy[01:21:17.199]>>inmybarn.[01:21:18.239]>>Yourbarn.Soumoneofthemembersof[01:21:20.800]Congresswhoallofuswereencouraged[01:21:22.239]tothinkwasweirdandtohate.Hewas[01:21:25.120]almostlikearitualsacrificeforthe[01:21:26.960]sinsoftheoftheentirebodyIfelt[01:21:29.199]wasthisguyGeorgeSantos.George[01:21:31.760]Santoswasnotevenafull-term[01:21:33.840]congressmanfromNewYorkwhowasuhyou[01:21:37.679]knowlikeaserialfabricator.Madeup[01:21:39.440]allthesekindofamazingstoriesabout[01:21:41.360]hislifeandheplayedoncompetitive[01:21:43.520]volleyball.HeworkedatGoldmanSachs[01:21:45.520]anditwasallkindofitwasallfake.[01:21:47.679]HewashewasbothJewishandsomething[01:21:51.120]else.Ica{n}^{\prime }tremember.Anyway,itwas[01:21:52.480]allmadeup.Um[01:21:55.280]hewoundup[01:21:56.080]>>WealwayssayJewish.[01:21:58.880]>>IthinkIheardSchumersaythat.[01:22:00.400]>>Iwasamusedbythewholething.Maybe[01:22:02.080]>>Iwastoobad.ButIjustthoughtwho[01:22:04.320]whoisCongresstostandinjudgment[01:22:06.000]anyway?[01:22:06.400]>>ButIdo{n}^{\prime }tWell,tha{t}^{\prime }sit.ButIdo{n}^{\prime }t[01:22:08.159]rememberGeorgeSantoseveradvocating[01:22:09.920]forlikekillinginnocentpeople,which[01:22:11.679]islikeverycommon.GeorgeSantoshad[01:22:14.239]oneofthemostconservativevoting[01:22:15.520]recordsinCongressacrosstheboard.[01:22:17.840]Conservative.Imean,sometimes{I}^{\prime }dlook[01:22:20.560]upthereandthink,"Dad,gum,George,[01:22:22.480]tha{t}^{\prime }satha{t}^{\prime }salittleharshforme."[01:22:24.159]Youknow,h{e}^{\prime }dvoteagainstsomething[01:22:25.520]thatwasand{I}^{\prime }dsay,"Itcost$5 per [01:22:27.840] bite. We’re broke.” And I go, “All [01:22:29.199] right, G, you’re good. I’m good with [01:22:31.040] it.” You know, [01:22:32.000] >> interesting. [01:22:32.639] >> Yeah. So, um, George Santos wound up in [01:22:36.080] prison, and I spoke to someone this [01:22:38.480] morning who’s close to George Santos, [01:22:40.239] who visited him in prison, uh, this [01:22:42.400] weekend, [01:22:43.040] >> right? [01:22:43.760] >> And told me that he saw George Santos [01:22:46.800] um, shackled in chains and he’s been in [01:22:50.480] solitary since he got to prison. He did [01:22:52.159] an interview. [01:22:52.719] >> He’s doing time in a federal lockup, [01:22:54.239] too. [01:22:54.560] >> In a federal lockup, in solitary [01:22:56.639] confinement [01:22:57.280] >> 24 hours a day. He’s 24. He gets out, I [01:22:59.760] think, 1 hour to maybe eat and take a [01:23:01.520] bath. [01:23:01.840] >> What is going on? How did George Santos [01:23:04.000] wind up in prison for like 7 years and [01:23:06.800] now he’s in solitary? [01:23:08.719] >> What’s P Daddy doing? Four maybe. [01:23:12.080] >> Oh, I know actual criminals who were who [01:23:14.480] were like celebrated on the front page [01:23:15.760] of the newspaper. So, I know a lot of [01:23:17.440] them. So, [01:23:18.800] >> whatever. Not I don’t want to lecture [01:23:20.560] the deep unfairness of life, but like [01:23:23.440] >> what is that? Why? I think he was a [01:23:25.840] sacrificial lamb and I think our party [01:23:28.239] and everybody else just kicked him to [01:23:30.080] the curb and said, “Look how righteous [01:23:31.600] we are.” [01:23:33.199] >> And I just don’t, you know, he’d always [01:23:35.520] sit with me on sinners row. That’s what [01:23:37.199] I call it. Every time somebody would get [01:23:39.280] in trouble, they would or perceived to [01:23:41.360] be in trouble cuz I’m not, you know, I I [01:23:45.679] I’ve said this before and I I mean, I’ll [01:23:47.360] say it publicly. I George was under a [01:23:49.840] heck of a lot of pressure and and I call [01:23:52.400] myself a Christian and if I sat there [01:23:54.000] and watched him [01:23:56.639] kill himself over something and and he [01:23:58.800] went to hell, I’d have that on my soul [01:24:01.199] and I just don’t want that. And um and [01:24:04.159] you know my chief of staff called me one [01:24:06.880] day and said hollered, “Hey boss,” I [01:24:08.880] said, he goes, “I know what you’re going [01:24:10.159] to say.” And I go, “What is it?” And he [01:24:12.000] said, “Nobody wants to take George as [01:24:14.320] their mentor. Would you be his mentor?” [01:24:15.920] I said, “Sure. sign him up and he just [01:24:18.639] shook his head and I said said, “Yeah, [01:24:20.080] he’ll do it.” And then um and George and [01:24:22.800] I just became fast friends. You know, [01:24:24.400] his his office was caddyy cornered to [01:24:26.560] mine and the press would be just lined [01:24:28.719] up down the hall and I some kid would [01:24:30.719] walk by close in stature down the other, [01:24:33.840] hey, there’s George Santos. And they’d [01:24:35.199] all run down there and and chase him and [01:24:37.440] I’d have fun with that. And then um [01:24:39.679] George would come in the office and I [01:24:41.199] would talk to him about that and I’d [01:24:42.560] talk to him about my faith. [01:24:44.320] And you know, I just said, “This ain’t [01:24:47.360] this is not reality, George. Don’t I” [01:24:50.239] And he I’d say, “Promise me if you think [01:24:52.800] you’re going to take your life, you’d [01:24:54.320] call me anytime, night or day.” He said, [01:24:56.880] “I will, Tim. Don’t worry.” And he never [01:24:59.120] did, you know, but he would call me from [01:25:01.199] time to time. And [01:25:02.159] >> but who is like, “How did he wind up in [01:25:04.080] prison for long?” [01:25:05.600] >> And to me, I just don’t understand that. [01:25:07.280] We just turned our back on him and and [01:25:09.679] >> the Republican party leadership did. [01:25:11.760] >> Oh, absolutely. They don’t want anywhere [01:25:13.120] near it. We have to, you know, I guess [01:25:15.040] they [01:25:15.280] >> like he’s creepier than they are. Sorry, [01:25:17.600] that’s not true. [01:25:18.480] >> Well, no. [01:25:19.600] >> True. That’s so I’m just You don’t have [01:25:20.960] to say that. You work there. But they’re [01:25:22.560] they are way creepier than George [01:25:24.000] Santos. Fact. [01:25:25.440] >> George is a very interesting guy. And [01:25:26.880] yeah, he fabricated a lot of stuff, but [01:25:28.719] he’s literally doing more time than than [01:25:31.120] P. Diddy or what? Combmes or whatever [01:25:32.880] his name is. [01:25:33.600] >> Solitary confinement. [01:25:34.560] >> Solitary confinement. And generally [01:25:36.000] solitary is where they put the violent [01:25:38.320] people, the people that have committed [01:25:40.560] heinous crimes. And I hear people say, [01:25:42.239] “Good, good. But I hope they lock him up [01:25:43.679] for the rest of his life. And I [01:25:44.800] >> heard someone say that about George [01:25:45.840] Santos? [01:25:46.320] >> Oh yeah, I’ve heard it [01:25:47.280] >> where [01:25:48.639] >> in Congress. I’ve heard him talk about [01:25:50.239] it and how bad it made it look for us. I [01:25:52.639] was like, for us? I said, have you not [01:25:55.199] read the papers lately? We do a pretty [01:25:56.960] good job of making it look bad. [01:25:58.400] >> I don’t think George Santos started the [01:26:00.239] Ukraine war. I mean, what? [01:26:02.400] >> No, we just I don’t know. I think again, [01:26:05.280] we’re a little big on ourselves [01:26:06.719] sometimes. [01:26:08.080] >> So, um, it does seem he’s clearly being [01:26:10.400] punished. He clearly has powerful [01:26:12.239] enemies. I’m not sure who they are, but [01:26:15.440] or maybe I I don’t understand the whole [01:26:17.440] thing, but how this person called me [01:26:20.159] this morning to say, “Can you save [01:26:21.600] George Santos?” I mean, I said, “I’m a [01:26:23.280] podcaster. I can’t save anybody.” But I [01:26:26.719] I don’t know. This This is like the This [01:26:29.120] is truly wrong. What’s happening to [01:26:31.760] George Santos? It [01:26:32.800] >> is completely wrong. Uh yeah, he he [01:26:34.960] committed I guess he he took money he [01:26:37.040] shouldn’t have, but [01:26:38.560] >> was a campaign finance violation. Yeah, [01:26:40.960] a campaign finance violation. Correct. [01:26:43.840] >> Right. The whole category is [01:26:46.239] >> and you know they they stack so much up [01:26:48.400] against him. I think the amount of time [01:26:49.920] he was going to do was just incredible [01:26:52.080] if he’d have stacked them on top of each [01:26:53.920] other. [01:26:54.480] >> But then to torture him once he gets to [01:26:56.719] prison, [01:26:57.360] >> I think is [01:27:00.320] he’s if he if he if he lives through it [01:27:02.480] all, he’s going to he’s going to have [01:27:05.199] one heck of a story to tell. [01:27:06.639] >> You don’t want to live in a country that [01:27:07.760] does that to people. I don’t think I [01:27:10.159] mean [01:27:11.040] >> so only Trump can save him. Is that kind [01:27:12.800] of where we are? Do you think? [01:27:13.760] >> I think so. I think so. They can [01:27:15.440] commute. You know, they they did these [01:27:17.040] reality TV show people that he didn’t [01:27:19.600] even know. Um we happen to know George. [01:27:23.120] I you know, give him community service [01:27:26.239] home lock up or whatever, but I just [01:27:29.120] think it’s a waste of taxpayers money [01:27:30.719] and it’s a waste. It’s just it just [01:27:32.560] doesn’t seem right. I just don’t unless [01:27:35.600] everybody else is going to go to jail [01:27:36.960] for a longer amount of time for the [01:27:38.719] crimes they committed. [01:27:40.000] >> Well, I mean, I remember very well Bill [01:27:42.159] Jefferson. I mean, I’ve just watched a [01:27:44.000] lot of different scandals in the [01:27:45.360] Congress. Almost all Democrats and the [01:27:49.120] Democratic party stood behind those [01:27:50.639] people till the till sentencing. [01:27:52.239] >> Oh, yeah. [01:27:52.880] >> The leadership. [01:27:53.760] >> You remember they all walked out of [01:27:54.880] Congress when Clinton was and and they [01:27:57.440] you know, I was there that day. Um Yes. [01:28:00.480] 1998. I’ll never forget it. So, um, [01:28:04.800] the Republican leadership with Marjorie, [01:28:07.600] Taylor Green, with Massie now, and with [01:28:11.440] Santos, just like immediately, we we’ve [01:28:13.440] never heard of the guy and we hope he [01:28:14.719] dies in prison. Like, what is that? Why [01:28:17.520] can’t the Republican party have [01:28:18.800] leadership that stands by its people and [01:28:21.360] stands by its voters? Is that too much [01:28:23.760] to ask? [01:28:24.560] >> I think we read our opinion polls too [01:28:26.320] much and not our souls. [01:28:29.520] >> Yeah. Well, I mean, what’s your sacred [01:28:31.360] duty? It’s to represent the people who [01:28:32.880] elected you. That’s the whole purpose of [01:28:35.679] being there. [01:28:36.159] >> I always thought, too, our anger, if we [01:28:38.639] had to be angry at anybody, it should [01:28:40.159] have been the Democrats who did the [01:28:42.719] opposition resource. I mean, you know, [01:28:44.880] opposition research on on George. I [01:28:48.000] mean, you could have Googled and found [01:28:49.920] out that stuff. You could have called [01:28:51.199] the school and said, “Hey, is he in [01:28:52.560] school here?” or whatever. [01:28:54.080] >> Lying on your I mean, the guy’s like an [01:28:55.440] epic artist. I get it. Yeah. I [01:28:57.199] mean, I don’t, you know, I’m not [01:28:58.159] defending wine. [01:28:58.880] >> Is that federal is that a federal crime? [01:29:01.840] >> Well, you just spent an hour telling me [01:29:03.280] how they’re lying about UFOs, which is a [01:29:05.840] pretty serious thing to lie about. [01:29:07.120] They’re shutting down military bases [01:29:08.639] because they can’t, you know, cuz the [01:29:10.400] they don’t control the airspace. So, [01:29:12.159] that’s very serious. [01:29:13.920] >> They’re lying about the Kennedy [01:29:14.960] assassination. They lied about [01:29:16.400] September. [01:29:17.040] >> Yeah. The funny thing about Kennedy, we [01:29:18.480] had him in on our committee. um Luna [01:29:21.760] chairs it in this oversight subcommittee [01:29:24.960] and we had a doctor in there who was um [01:29:28.320] in the um emergency room with Kennedy [01:29:31.040] and he said there was clearly an entry [01:29:33.360] wound, an exit wound and an entry wound [01:29:36.800] and an exit wound going the opposite [01:29:38.560] direction. [01:29:39.199] >> Yeah. [01:29:39.600] >> And you know one bullet supposed to that [01:29:41.520] magic bullet did that [01:29:43.360] >> shot John Connley and the president [01:29:44.880] simultaneously. [01:29:46.000] >> Well um those files have not been fully [01:29:47.920] released as you know. No. No. And they [01:29:49.679] never will be. They never will be. And [01:29:51.760] just power control and and and these and [01:29:54.320] the CIA or whoever would have to admit [01:29:56.400] that they were wrong. They’d have to [01:29:57.840] admit that they were wrong. And the [01:29:59.679] arrogance is just I think once you take [01:30:03.199] the oath, you you get an oath of [01:30:05.040] arrogance [01:30:06.159] >> that you got to protect us our our past [01:30:09.040] and we’ll protect you kind of thing in [01:30:10.560] the future. And I just think that [01:30:12.560] carries on with them all. And they for [01:30:15.199] whatever reason. [01:30:17.199] >> Okay. But George Santos pretending to be [01:30:19.600] a highle volleyball player is the real [01:30:21.600] crime. [01:30:22.159] >> That is the crime of the century. [01:30:23.440] >> He said he worked at Goldman Sachs. Kill [01:30:25.280] him. [01:30:26.320] >> Okay, just to put just to put deception [01:30:28.480] in perspective here cuz I think that you [01:30:30.159] know not all lies are the same. [01:30:31.520] >> I agree. [01:30:32.159] >> Uh okay, final question. Since you more [01:30:34.320] than any member of Congress have thought [01:30:35.760] about this, as candidly as you can [01:30:38.080] answer, what do you think based on what [01:30:41.280] you’ve heard the UFOs are? Actually, [01:30:47.440] I think [01:30:49.520] again God created the heavens and the [01:30:52.239] earth. And every night I go out with my [01:30:54.800] dogs, usually at 4:00 in the morning, [01:30:56.880] they go to the bathroom and look at [01:30:58.239] those stars. Yep. And I see the light [01:31:00.159] from those stars. And it’s hard for my [01:31:02.800] very small brain to compre comprehend [01:31:04.880] this. A light from those stars left [01:31:06.880] there before the time of Christ. And [01:31:08.800] some of those stars don’t even exist [01:31:10.239] that we’re looking at today, [01:31:11.679] >> right? [01:31:12.480] >> Which is hard for me to fathom or as a [01:31:14.880] good old voice would say, hard for me to [01:31:16.159] fathom. But I [01:31:20.239] I think there’s something else out [01:31:21.760] there. I do not think we are the best [01:31:24.080] that God can do. Now is there something [01:31:26.560] here as that’s you know proposed to me [01:31:29.600] with these deep sea areas I don’t know [01:31:32.639] is something been here but the um [01:31:37.040] the way for me to comprehend anything [01:31:38.639] traveling light years I mean it’s just [01:31:41.360] beyond belief that is beyond belief but [01:31:43.520] now there’s this quantum I’ve been [01:31:46.400] explained quantum physics and I really [01:31:48.320] don’t understand it how something can be [01:31:50.719] here and instantaneously be hereim [01:31:54.960] simultane almost simultaneously. And [01:31:57.440] that that to me begs the question of how [01:32:01.679] does that fit into all this? And if [01:32:04.159] something’s here in these deep sea [01:32:06.400] areas, has it been here for, [01:32:09.760] you know, thousands of years? And that’s [01:32:12.080] the other question. That’s what, you [01:32:14.239] know, these folks in the Navy kind of [01:32:15.840] and I have to be real careful [01:32:17.040] >> with the folks in the Navy. What [01:32:18.320] >> that that I’ve talked to about this [01:32:20.560] undersea type [01:32:21.600] >> and what have they said? And they said, [01:32:23.520] “We don’t know what’s down there.” And [01:32:25.760] they said, “There’s we think there’s a [01:32:27.440] reason that they’re over these deep sea [01:32:29.280] areas that we cannot get to.” [01:32:33.360] >> And so I don’t [01:32:34.400] >> their belief is whatever these things [01:32:35.679] are, [01:32:36.239] >> they’ve been here. And and obviously if [01:32:39.679] there was if they meant harm to us, we I [01:32:42.800] mean we’re doing a pretty good job of [01:32:43.920] harming ourselves. Um just look at our [01:32:47.600] political structure. But the the truth [01:32:50.159] is is that we just don’t know. And I [01:32:52.080] don’t know, my my thoughts are kind of [01:32:54.159] evolving on it, Tucker, to be honest [01:32:55.679] with you, because I I get to the point [01:32:57.760] sometimes where I’m kind of beat down. I [01:32:59.840] think, “Oh, this is crazy. There can’t [01:33:01.440] be.” But [01:33:03.360] how many of these people got to come [01:33:04.719] forward to me that I that I know and [01:33:06.480] respect [01:33:08.239] u tell tell me what they’ve seen and [01:33:10.719] there’s no no explanation for it. And so [01:33:13.920] I I just think it’s another one of those [01:33:16.639] things I’m not going to know till [01:33:20.080] I’m in heaven. I mean I I know that [01:33:22.159] sounds that sounds weird and and [01:33:23.920] >> it doesn’t sound weird at all. It sounds [01:33:25.199] entirely true. And that’s true for a lot [01:33:27.199] of things including understanding [01:33:30.080] people’s motivations including your own [01:33:31.679] motivations. Like we don’t understand [01:33:33.199] anything. I mean of course [01:33:34.320] >> we don’t I mean it’s every you know and [01:33:36.000] and science can’t get out of its own [01:33:38.560] way. every time they find something new, [01:33:40.639] you know, it’s um like the celacanth for [01:33:43.120] instance, it was a a loed thin fish [01:33:46.719] caught off the coast of Madagascar, I [01:33:48.880] believe it was, and it’s supposed to [01:33:50.239] have been extinct 50 million years ago. [01:33:52.400] But all of a sudden, it’s here and then [01:33:54.159] they well, you know, there was this but [01:33:56.480] they can’t explain it. And I again go [01:33:58.320] back to that Bible verse, those [01:33:59.679] professing themselves to be wise became [01:34:01.520] fools. And I I think it’s I was on a a [01:34:05.199] show the other day with a a guy named [01:34:07.760] Lo. He’s a UFO guy. He’s um Yeah, I [01:34:10.960] think he’s at Harvard, I believe. [01:34:13.440] Anyway, he um he was talking about how [01:34:16.480] science what he likes about science is [01:34:18.320] that it’s that it it’s it’s changing and [01:34:22.159] it’s and how it but a lot of scientists [01:34:24.480] it’s like, you know, this is a brick [01:34:26.400] wall. This is way it is. It’s not going [01:34:28.080] to change. And I think with the UFOs, [01:34:30.800] that’s kind of the situation we’re in. [01:34:32.800] Um, I just tell you, I’ve talked to too [01:34:34.880] many people that have just sworn to me [01:34:37.920] what they’ve seen and um, and some that [01:34:42.800] I can’t disclo disclose, but and I would [01:34:46.239] hope that eventually that those people [01:34:48.159] are able to come forward. [01:34:49.760] >> Yeah. And in general that people would [01:34:51.600] start telling the truth. It’s it’s an [01:34:53.679] act of liberation when you do. [01:34:55.440] Congressman Timber, I appreciate you [01:34:57.120] coming on. Thank you. [01:34:57.920] >> Thank you, Tucker. [01:34:59.760] [Applause] [01:35:00.330] [Music] [01:35:05.920] We’ve got a new website we hope you will [01:35:07.760] visit. It’s called newcommissionnow.com [01:35:11.440] and it refers to a new 9/11 commission. [01:35:15.120] So we spent months putting together our [01:35:17.120] 9/11 documentary series. And if there’s [01:35:20.080] one thing we learned, it’s that in fact [01:35:23.280] there was foreign knowledge of the [01:35:24.960] attacks. People knew. [01:35:27.280] >> The American public deserves to know. [01:35:29.360] We’re shocked actually to learn that, to [01:35:31.040] have that confirmed, but it’s true. The [01:35:32.239] evidence is overwhelming. The CIA, for [01:35:34.000] example, knew the hijackers were here in [01:35:35.760] the United States. They knew they were [01:35:37.440] planning an act of terror. [01:35:39.040] >> In his passport is a visa to go to [01:35:42.320] United States of America. [01:35:43.360] >> A foreign national was caught [01:35:45.199] celebrating as the World Trade Center [01:35:47.040] fell and later said he was in New York, [01:35:48.800] quote, to document the event. How do you [01:35:51.679] know there would be an event to document [01:35:53.199] in the first place? Because he had [01:35:54.320] fornowledge. And maybe most amazingly, [01:35:57.600] somebody, an unknown investor, shorted [01:36:00.080] American Airlines and United Airlines, [01:36:02.080] the companies whose planes the attackers [01:36:03.840] used on 911, as well as the banks that [01:36:06.560] were inside the Twin Towers just before [01:36:08.159] the attacks. They made money on the 9/11 [01:36:11.120] attacks because they knew they were [01:36:13.040] coming. Who did that? You have to look [01:36:16.159] at the evidence. [01:36:17.199] >> The US government learned the name of [01:36:19.440] that investor, but never released it. [01:36:23.760] Maybe there’s an instant explanation for [01:36:25.280] all this, but there isn’t actually. And [01:36:27.679] by the way, it doesn’t matter whether [01:36:28.960] there is or not. The public deserves to [01:36:31.520] know what the hell that was. How did [01:36:34.000] people know ahead of time? Why was no [01:36:35.520] one ever punished for it? 9/11 [01:36:37.920] Commission, the original one, was a [01:36:40.080] fraud. It was fake. Its conclusions were [01:36:43.199] written before the investigation. That’s [01:36:45.360] true, and it’s outrageous. This country [01:36:48.239] needs a new 9/11 commission. one that [01:36:50.880] actually tells the truth that tries to [01:36:52.480] get to the bottom of the story. We can’t [01:36:54.960] just move on like nothing happened. [01:36:57.199] >> 911 commission [01:36:59.520] cover. [01:37:00.239] >> Something did happen. We need to force a [01:37:03.199] new investigation into 9/11 almost 25 [01:37:06.639] years later. 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