Psicoactivo #589 — Jake Barber on the “8-gon” craft and the “feminine spirit” recovery experience (embedded clip; 30 Aug 2025)
Source: Psicoactivo Podcast (solo host commentary, English), embedding a substantial verbatim clip of Jake Barber from the Dennis Asberg / “Danny’s World” podcast recorded in Sweden with Barber, astronomer Dr. Beatriz Villarroel, and Dennis Asberg (VASCO / ExoProbe). Title: “Jake Barber opens up about the 8-Gon UFO with Dr. Villarroel & Dennis Asberg - Psicoactivo #589.” URL: https://youtu.be/XZPv32b6pmk (2025-08-30; ~26:58). Captured: 2026-07-01. OpenAI Whisper (whisper-1) via scripts/speech_to_text_remote.py; timestamped paragraphs, verbatim. Provenance only. Analysis: barber-noc-retrieval-claims · villarroel-pre-sputnik-plate-transients. Provenance note: this is secondary — the host frames and reacts — but it embeds a long, near-continuous verbatim Barber clip (roughly 8:00-20:00) that is Barber’s fullest account of the “8-gon” recovery. The actual primary is the Barber / Asberg / Villarroel “Danny’s World” podcast (see Followup). Weight the embedded Barber quotes as primary; the surrounding commentary is the host’s opinion. What the embedded Barber clip claims:
- Two objects he discusses publicly: “the egg” and “the 8-gon” — a dark flying disc with eight delineated sections (octagonal when viewed from above), not smooth.
- The recovery protocol: before a pickup he gets a load-out with a hazmat declaration (biological / explosive / radiological), approximate size/weight, and GPS coordinates; a “biological” hazmat on a crash recovery “normally means a dead pilot / dead body,” sometimes still in the craft.
- The experience: flying a twin-engine helicopter solo under NVGs to lift the 8-gon at night, he was overcome by an “overwhelming… spiritual experience” — “possessed by the Spirit of God,” but “very feminine,” “the spirit of my mother,” a love “for my daughter, my wife, my mother”; it brought him to tears and “has never left.” He stresses his practical, high-trust profession to underline the anomaly of the report.
- Consciousness claims: material-analysis personnel “report the material is alive… conscious… connects to them”; he floats “soft-tissue drones or meat robots” — biological AI occupants “without a consciousness or soul,” while “ironically the craft is conscious.” He compares to Bob Lazar’s “sentient material.”
- Program-sociology: legacy-program people “have been slowly talking to each other” since the 2017 NYT article and “talk like crazy now.”
- A control-system thesis: analogizing disclosure to the Reformation (Martin Luther bypassing the Church), he argues realizing human consciousness is “connected to a higher level” would make populations “harder for governments to control” — the “woo” answer he offers with the caveat that it is his religious interpretation. Host’s added framing (opinion): a plea against reflexively ridiculing the “woo”/spiritual side; ties “catastrophic disclosure” (Karl Nell) to governments losing control; warns tech companies + AI could seize the technology. Weight within the Skywatcher venture’s contested-credibility context (Barber page); these are extraordinary, unverifiable first-person and relayed claims.
Followup items
- Capture the actual primary: the full Barber / Dennis Asberg / Beatriz Villarroel “Danny’s World” podcast recorded in Sweden (the source of the embedded clip), rather than only this Psicoactivo restatement.
[0:00] What’s up, humans, and welcome to a musical table. Happy Saturday, everybody. Last day of the month and we got a banger for you guys today because a few days ago we saw a video from Instagram and a bunch of pictures that Mr. Dennis Asberg and Dr. Beatriz Villarreal shared on their social media and Surprise, surprise, Jake Barber was with them. Jake or Jake Barber. Barber. And who is Jake? And I have no idea what they just said because I only speak English, but I’m sure it was very flattering and a proper introduction. But I’m Jake Barber from the United States of America. Been involved with the Skywatcher Corporation where we
[1:19] are exploring UAP in the United States and elsewhere. And I’m here in Sweden to meet with these other two explorers who have been looking at very interesting things that have inspired me as well. And so we wanted to get together in this beautiful place and have some coffee and tea and some desserts and talk about the journey we’ve all been on individually. And I think we have a lot in common that we can only offer each other that few can sympathize with. So we’re having a lot of fun. And lots of secrets. And sharing secrets. So, oh my God, what we learned about the universe today. So we’re going to do a podcast interview. Yes, tomorrow.
[2:05] Hopefully if everything’s done well with time and everything. So tomorrow we’re going to record it and perhaps next week or two weeks. It’s going to be out on Danny’s World. Thanks for watching. Thank you. Thank you. You’re welcome. Ciao. They took a lot of pictures. Jake Barber visited them in Sweden and they announced that they were going to do a podcast. This initial post that they shared. They said that the podcast was coming out next week. What nobody knew is that that recording was actually made a week ago. So the podcast dropped today. The full one because Dennis shared a five-minute clip that
[2:50] didn’t really say anything new. But they did share the full conversation that I’m going to link you guys to. It’s an incredible conversation and Jake got a little bit more personable and he did reveal more details of his encounter with the ape gone, which was for many one of the most revealing and profound moments of the interview. He shared with Ross but for many also for the people who are like less spiritual you might say or were against religion. This was not a good look for Jake. I am one of the people who thinks that there should be some sort of a balance between what is known as spirituality and science and
[3:39] I spoke to Dr. Branco and one of my shows about this that there seems to be a reticence or stigma attached to this word and to this whole concept because the people that are more science-based and more materialistic, they do criticize the spirituality aspect of life a lot and they instantly go to this is a cult or you know, and I think that that’s an unfair representation of what spirituality should be. The yogis and older cultures of mystics do have a very detailed explanation of what this is and many different practices that are millennia old of how to
[4:27] improve one’s spirit in life. And yeah, materialism is also important in this 3D world that we live in. I know that there’s a lot of capitalists out there. The scientific mainstream community is very materialistic in nature, but I am one of those people who thinks that if we don’t manage to find that balance between the two, we’re still going to have problems even after the disclosure if it happens. And I want to commend Jake for being more open about this and not being afraid of talking about the quote-unquote woo aspect of the phenomenon. I always applaud people who dare go to those places. That’s why I had for example, Frater Eleftheria on the show because even though there’s a lot of people that
[5:19] judge whatever he does without understanding it. I think that those conversations that are more esoteric in nature have always existed and they have always been linked to whatever this thing is and just ignoring it or even let even worse disparaging it. I don’t think is the best idea. I think we should learn to understand it and learn to understand why scientists from old named some of these practices alchemy, although that’s an outdated term. I think there is a scientific explanation for everything. We just haven’t found it yet. And the human race is very adept to slap a term of like this is not real
[6:05] because I don’t understand it. Maybe we don’t understand it because we just haven’t gotten there yet to fully explain what’s going on. And I think that’s conversations like the one Jake had with Dennis and Dr. Villarreal asked to remind us that those parts of life and the phenomenon and philosophy and belief are very important. And I know that Jake gives it his own interpretation because he’s a religious man. I just ask do not judge someone for slapping that interpretation into something. I know that I’ve I disagree with some of those interpretations, especially with my video about Chris Bledsoe, for example, but that video was more about cautioning people to not develop this worship kind of nature towards a single person for stuff that is happening to him. And that also happened back way back when when Jesus was around. People don’t have this control
[7:08] over that urge to worship things they don’t understand. And this is one of human nature’s evolutionary traits that we will leave behind as we keep evolving in life and as civilizations, at least I think so. But now it’s still very latent and still very real. But still I think those conversations need to happen. We need to understand all sides better so we can know what we’re dealing with really so with that said I’m going to play you the clip where Jake first talks about the in more detail about what he felt when he approached the 8-gun UFO, which is not the egg. It’s the 8-gun. It’s the one that looks like a saucer that has eight equal sides to it like an octagon and and then we’re going to go to a different part of the conversation where he talks about the woo in the phenomenon. So here’s Jake Barber on the Dennis world podcast.
[8:11] I will leave it in the description. This is the name right here. So you guys can check it out. But thank you to Dennis and to dr. Villarreal for this wonderful conversation. And thank you to Jake for being very open about what he has experienced because he went deep in various subjects. He also talked about injuries from UAP that he experienced and others experience as well. He was very detailed about that. He talked about the reaction from his own family and his friends before and after he came forward. He discusses the what he’s heard about these agreements even from his
[8:48] vantage point. So a really really good conversation for a nice Saturday that you guys should all watch and I’m going to leave it in the description. But for now, let’s see Dennis’s question where he clearly asks about the 8-gun and the experience Jake had and a more detailed description of what he already stated on News Nation with Ross Colthart. So here it is. Physical damage of some kind of radiation but what was the feeling when you were there and working? Did you get any, you know, reaction? Something Yeah. On something is not as it should be. Yeah. I think what you’re asking about, you know, when I when I when I and this gets confused a lot in in the public that has seen some of my podcasts or some of the
[9:46] some of the coverage of some of the conversations I’ve had like this, you know, there are two objects that I am talking about publicly. One is the egg. The other is what we call it was an 8-gun or it’s basically a flying disk with eight delineated sections, you know, when viewed from above look like a craft of flying saucer, but it wasn’t smooth. It had eight sections. It was very dark. This when I did that recovery, I experienced a very traumatic emotional. I don’t know what you would call it. I had a very emotional experience that you could say was traumatic. However, it was very positive. It was like an overwhelmingly positive spiritual experience,
[10:39] you know, when I was flying the helicopter before we go out to a target. We stay at a separate location near what we call the pick site, which is where we go to pick something up. I have very minimal information when I’m out there. I get living get given a load out the craft usually is there a hazmat declaration which can include biological that can include explosives and radiological biological explosives. We get a hazmat declaration. We also get approximate size and weight of the object and we get GPS coordinates. And so when I got that briefing when I was flying in that night,
[11:22] there was a biological disclosure for hazmat, which in crash recovery that normally means a dead pilot a dead body. Yeah, and a lot of times they don’t go in and collect the carnage or the bodies or body parts. And so sometimes that’s still in the craft or part of it. They didn’t get all of it and it’s still in the craft. So I’m assuming that that’s a dead body at that point. So I did get that disclosure on this night. But as I’m flying in route as I get closer to the object, I ended up getting an overwhelming sense of like I was possessed by something and I just
[12:03] come like that. Yeah. Well, it came on pretty strong. It felt like I’ve explained for like a like a heartburn like it swole up inside of me, but it was emotional and the closer I got to the object it intensified and by the time I was over the object flying trying to lift it off the ground. I was in tears. I didn’t know if I thought maybe I was someone had drugged me or I was having an emotional breakdown of some kind from to stress cortisol and it took everything I got to fly and pick this load up and and fly away. And it’s very busy work out there at night flying as a single pilot. I’m flying up the time was a twin engine helicopter that normally there’s two pilots on board and I was the only pilot just for for security reasons. We try and minimize the crew and I’m flying under NVGs in the mountains running three radios
[12:58] at one time and a variety instrument. So it takes my full concentration normally. And so I’m having this emotional I don’t know. I hate to say not a breakdown but like an epiphany. It’s like a life-changing moment. I felt possessed with the Spirit of God is what it felt like to me and it felt very feminine. It was different. You know, I’ve been to church. I prayed my whole life and at times I thought I’d felt that you know what the Holy Spirit felt like or God touching me or Jesus showering me with his love. But this was something different. There was a spirit. I’d never felt before it felt like a feminine energy
[13:41] felt like the spirit of my mother. I felt like a deep sense of love for my daughter my wife my mother. It was like that kind of love not like a fatherly or brotherly love. That’s one reason I describe it as feminine. And I also felt I felt safe like I wasn’t insecure about my emotions. Like there was no shame. It was just a beautiful feeling but I is I’ve never felt like that before and I began to feel like something was possessing me and I thought I was pop the load off and because I didn’t think I should be able to continue. So I took everything I had to focus on my particular cues when doing this work and flying that helicopter and I got it
[14:33] to the site and I got rid of it. And when I flew away the feeling went away but ever since then like it’s never left me like that has never left and I began talking about it to other friends and I feel like whatever was in that object or whatever was controlling that object was was also in my mind or in my consciousness. And so that that led me to where I am today, which is realizing that there are parts of the research around and the operations around UAP and non-human intelligence that focus particularly on this aspect of it, which is there is a human consciousness connection with the beings that either operate these or what we’ve come to find out through talking to other people
[15:26] involved in the legacy program. We all kind of talk now, you know, I spent 30 years living very isolated. Nobody talked. Yeah, and since 2017, we’ve been nervously peering over the cubicle walls. You can say and exchanging your information and that has escalated to where we all talk like crazy now and people from all portions of the program. And so me coming out with that story and sharing that I think it was really valuable because of who I am and what my profession is like, I don’t spend a lot of time out in the desert doing drugs and partying, right? I have a very practical job. I have a very practical responsibility. My entire career has progressed because I’m someone that can be trusted to think clearly and execute on the mission under high-stress situations and be
[16:20] able to rely on my training and my pragmatic thinking. So for me to report such an out-of-this-world emotional spiritual intangible experience I think really caused people to listen and other people that have had similar experiences around the topic within the program like material analysis people that are working on the exotic material have had the exact same experience where they report the material is alive and the material is conscious and the material connects to them. And so it seems to be the case that that it’s likely the craft in these circumstances it is reported and it is further hypothesized that while some of the occupants which are biological entities and we have in our possession maybe something like soft-tissue drones or meat robots is playing where it’s a biological artificial intelligence, but
[17:23] it doesn’t have a consciousness or soul while that’s happening. Ironically the craft is conscious. Okay, and the material in some of these crafts seems to be conscious. Okay, so that was very interesting a bunch of different different parts that I think should be addressed the part where Jake mentions that people from the legacy program since 2017, which was when the article of the New York Times was released. They’ve been slowly talking to each other more and more and now Jake claims that they’re talking amongst each other all the time. That’s one that gives you an idea that yeah, the legacy program has the people who are trying to keep the secret at the very top and it also has people like Jake or others who are like part of the apparatus doing the work and they didn’t really have a choice to whether do it or not, you know, so that was very interesting and it also gave me a lot of Bob Lazar vibes when he talked
[18:32] about the material being sentient. That’s something that Bob Lazar talked about back in the early 90s or late 80s. And also I remember and if you guys don’t dr. Richard Bandrick who also talked about that material sort of having like a consciousness or reacting in a conscious manner when it’s touched. That’s very interesting to me too. There’s this other part where Jake talks about what he thinks might be going on and I think that this is a very interesting one to talk about as well. So you can check it out. Here it is, you know, I think there is a spiritual component to this thing and I don’t think I think
[19:16] it’s a control. It’s likely that our governments and agencies want to control the population. It’s been that way since the time of Caesar stabilizing the Roman Empire and keeping the people happy was the number one priority because then the Empire falls apart. It’s the same today. Our governments and even our world as a whole requires stability. And I think it’s analogous to if you look at the history of Christianity and Martin Luther and the Reformation where Martin Luther was a rebel who basically said you don’t need to go through man to get to God. You don’t need to go through the Catholic Church organization and those appointed in leadership at the time
[20:01] to have a relationship with God. You can have a personal direct line to God and not only ask him for things but have his forgiveness and have all the fruits of a relationship with God can bring and it bypassed the control and the power of the Catholic Church. I think for me personally that it’s something like that. I think that if humans learn that there is something special about us that separates us from the animals that we aren’t just beasts. We are also something like a God or have a portion of God or a connection to the world around us and to other dimensions and to a higher level of consciousness that it will be harder for governments to control and keep us suppressed and that the elevating of our species would empower us in a way that would destabilize the current state of economics, politics, borders, wars, all that goes away when we transform ourselves to a higher quality of life and state of being. Now, I know that’s kind of a very crazy woo-woo answer, but I’m sorry.
[21:16] That’s what I’m out in my life right now. Like I am I’m blue in my thoughts, but I still have very practical responsibilities in my career and I’m kind of torn between the two. It’s something that I have to agree with Jake on because it is very clearly that when governments and people who are like part of the control disclosure narrative from the government talk about catastrophic disclosure like Carl Nell. I’ve always thought that what he means by catastrophic is that the governments are going to lose all the control that they have and it will be catastrophic for them. It will also have catastrophic effects on the economy and
[21:56] it will be bad, but it won’t be always bad. It’s something that needs to happen. There’s this traumatic experience that collectively needs to happen so we can get to that point that Jake is discussing and we can like get away from that control that has persisted since the time of Caesar. That’s very true. Governments have always done that. It’s it’s the never-ending story of trying to control the populace and yeah, it is a woo response as Jake says, but I don’t think it’s that woo. I don’t think it’s that crazy to think that one of the best ways to get out of that control is to just elevate ourselves. And yeah, that’s that’s why I mentioned the mystics and
[22:41] that’s why I mentioned the yogis. That’s it’s even before the Abrahamic religions which is also a control system when they all started there were already many philosophies and religions that professed self preservation and self-growth as it should be in every single religion or every single country or civilization and I am happy that Jake is in that place right now because we do need more people thinking outside of the box like that in this and there’s not enough people thinking outside of the box like that within the government and even I dare say within the control disclosure narrative. They think that it should be in a specific way only that way because they don’t want to lose the control
[23:31] that they have. It’s not that difficult to see really I think Jake sees that and and I’ve been talking about this for a while. We need to be really careful because it’s not just the government or the control disclosure people that want a hold of this control system because it is a control system. It’s also the tech companies that are like now starting to realize that there is a there there and they’re trying to get a hold of whatever this technology is and you pair it with how artificial intelligence is progressing right now and you got yourself really dangerous ontological cocktail and whoever gets the hold of
[24:13] that tech or that information. I get the sense that they’re going to be the ones calling the shots after disclosure when it happens and I’m not sure I want just anybody to be in control of anything. I think this should be a collective effort and I think people like Jake or dr. Be a role or even Dennis think the same way because as far as dr. Be a role in Dennis goes what they’re doing the work they’re doing. They’re trying to get it to the masses. They believe that everybody all people should be allowed to know what’s going on with the nature of reality and I think
[24:53] I get the sense that Jake feels the same way. So I just wanted to talk about this in more depth. I want to ask you guys. What do you think about Jake’s description of his encounter with the 8-gun a more detailed one. I know that he had his own interpretation of what it is. It may be something different that he doesn’t understand but that’s the interpretation that he wants to give it and what do you think about this control system? What Jake thinks might be going on. Do you agree with him? Do you not agree with him? I already know that the hardcore science-based ufologists are instantly going to jump at this
[25:32] but that’s okay. We will have more time to sit down and talk amongst each other and try to understand each other but instant rejection and ridicule are not the answer. Just want to tell you guys that we need to sit down and talk look at each other’s face and talk. That’s the way what Jake is doing right now with them. He went to Sweden sat down with them face-to-face talk to them had a really honest conversation and he really opened up. So kudos. Let me know what you think. I’m going to leave everything in the description. Of course, if you like the content you see I’m going to ask you to like
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